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    Quote Originally Posted by SMKSoundPro View Post
    I still love the whole package of my JBL drivers and Crown Macros in the big Ballroom!

    It reads as if your changing your position regarding a macro power supply softness.

    Not a question, merely an observation.

    Scotty.
    Yes, because at the end of the day, still, Crown makes the best sounding bass.

    I got the Lab sitting right here, and I put it in, wanting to really like it. Its good, but it isnt Crown. What else can I say?

    Crown bass gets peoples attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott fitlin View Post
    Yes, because at the end of the day, still, Crown makes the best sounding bass.

    I got the Lab sitting right here, and I put it in, wanting to really like it. Its good, but it isnt Crown. What else can I say?

    Crown bass gets peoples attention.

    :dont-know
    Scott,

    Have you tried Chevin Research?
    http://www.chevin-research.com/products_a_series.php

    Camco Vortex?
    http://www.camcoaudio.com/products.html


    FBT Symbol?
    http://www.fbt.it/intranet/Inglese/p...ampl/index.asp
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    3 to 4 years ago, Chevin was the name everybody was talking about. The same crowd is now talking about Lab. I never heard the Chevins, so I dont know about them. The only thing I do know is someone I know used to like them, fast, snappy sound, he used them for his 12in midranges.

    Camco gets good reveiws over at prosounds website.

    I have never heard of FBT.

    I am auditioning three more amps at this point, Crest CA-9, Crown 2402, and my friend Shortys amp.

    The way I feel right now, is I know what the Crown will do, and how it sounds, and it works sonically. At least for me, it does.

    I also have to think about serviceability! If there is a brand of amplifier, and it is very good, but not common in this country, if it needs service, it could be a problem. With Crown or QSC, or Crest, they are right here, getting parts and service isnt a problem.

    Camco gets great reveiws from the guys on the pro sound forum, but I have no experience with them and they arent common items in our stores, at least here in NY.
    scottyj

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    Tomorrow, I will be in Manhattan, I am taking a day off! Imagine that?

    I will be going to Canal Hi Fi and purchasing the first of three Cropwn Macro Tech 2402,s. I will install the first amp tomorrow evening, and run it over the weekend. I'm also going to J & R,s Computer World and finally buy a digital cam, so I can post pictures of my system on the site.

    After the weekend, and I know it does what I already know it will, I am getting two more, and away we go.

    The TAD fifteens sound incredibly good, they purr on the bottom end.

    The floor tom toms in Williams-Lupe, track #17 on the Eargle on Everest CD sound so amazingly special through the TAD woofers. They just sound so real, and accurate, yet well damped but not overly so, and so pleasing and comfortable to listen to. They are so darned clean, and they get down fairly deep.
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    Got my K2 :)

    Picked up my Crown K2 at the post office today.

    Have hooked it up to a few different speakers and the bottom end is......incredible. Extremely tight bass and very detailed.

    Im a bit surprised to find the middle and top a bit laidback. I was afraid that it would sound on the bright side....

    Imo it lacks a bit of punch and clarity in the higher mids and top, but for the price its ok.


    And for thoose who wonder how it compares to ICE class-D for sub application. Well, it wipes the floor with em

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    Crown K1s are still available new in the UK. Expensive though at £1,500 or $3,000 in JBL money.

    Dolphinmusic.co.uk have them.

    Anyone know if they can easily be switched between 220 and 110v?

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    The spec sheet sugest that the power supply is universal switchable

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    Quote Originally Posted by timc View Post
    Picked up my Crown K2 at the post office today.

    Have hooked it up to a few different speakers and the bottom end is......incredible. Extremely tight bass and very detailed.

    Im a bit surprised to find the middle and top a bit laidback. I was afraid that it would sound on the bright side....

    Imo it lacks a bit of punch and clarity in the higher mids and top, but for the price its ok.


    And for thoose who wonder how it compares to ICE class-D for sub application. Well, it wipes the floor with em
    Crown bass KICKS!

    Thats why I like it.

    You hear what I hear,
    scottyj

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    Quote Originally Posted by timc View Post
    ... that the power supply is universal switchable
    This looks like a switched power supply. It is obviously no restriction in general as I had supposed.
    What about CROWN XLS or CROWN XTI concerning sound?
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    I had the XTI-1000 for a while. Very tight bass. But a bit skinner than the K2, but still very good. Enough punch to make you dizzy

    The mids and highs however is a bit more forwards and might be to much with some speakers. (talking home speakers now)

    Hope this helps.

    I have not heard the XLS.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by timc View Post

    I have not heard the XLS.....
    Dont even sweat it, the XLS is aimed at the economy, and mobile DJ markets, it aint the K2.

    I agree, the switching amps tend to have a thinner sounding bottom.

    Im putting Macro Tech 2402,s on my 15,s.
    scottyj

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    Eh..Think you are confused here. The K2 is a switching amp. The XTI is not.

    Imo it doesnt matter what technology used, only its used properly.

    Tim

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    Quote Originally Posted by timc View Post
    ... , only its used properly.
    Looking for CROWN K2 specifications, I found a decription:
    http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/legacy/136713.pdf
    Just for your insight, the K2 delivers 1250 W at 2 Ohm stereo both channels continiously.
    Which amp can do this instead? *)
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    Hehe. I read that paper up and down before deciding to buy it.

    1250w into 2ohms is not that much in the pro-world. Check out the specs on the I-Techs

    The thing with the K2 is that it has no Fans

    Tim

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    The K2 is not a switching power supply in the sense of a switching power supply. It has a huge toroidal transformer that takes up the front portion of the amp. That rounded part of the front panel is all space for the transformer. The XTI amps are indeed switching power supplies and they do sound very good, I have never listened to one up close with a pair of monitors though. I'm still not 100% convinced about DSP built into amps though. Two ways to look at it...less pieces of equipment, less interconnections OR... DSP section fails amp is dead with no way to bypass it, it's still in the signal path to some degree even if bypassed.

    Mike Caldwell

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