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    New S/3100 ?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting

    Do these ever look like my 3100's ..
    JBL S3100, VPI HM19 MKIV w/SAMA, Moerch UP4 ,Hana ML cart, Blackdog VTP , Audio Note M2 line stage, Perreaux PMF 1850.

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    real KLANGFILM

    Klangfilm from 1934: Europa Junior KL43004 (pair)
    Lots of pictures - lots of money (reserve not met)!
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    I am really intrigued by how similar these look to the S/3100.. from the front that is ! What is really surprising is that the horns look to be asymmetrical.. this in the age of mono.. what gives with that ? Could it be they were meant to be used in pairs ? Or is the photo just giving that illusion?
    JBL S3100, VPI HM19 MKIV w/SAMA, Moerch UP4 ,Hana ML cart, Blackdog VTP , Audio Note M2 line stage, Perreaux PMF 1850.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard Wolf View Post
    What is really surprising is that the horns look to be asymmetrical.. this in the age of mono..
    Yes, the form is asymmetrical. I have not found any information about this form. But it should be considered that KLANGFILM produced cinema speakers. Speakers on stage are overhead the audience and so it might be intended that the sound does not come out straight. Concerning the Euronor there is a detailed description about sound distribution of the high frequency horns, Ingenieurs were aware of the problem.

    Attached are two pictures of
    - Europa Junior KL43004 (ca.1934)
    - Euronor (with big bass horn, ca. 1943)

    Concerning the suspension of the bass driver (19 inch membran diameter) of the Euronor I found this:
    The bass system used in the EURONOR loudspeaker combination of Klangfilm GmbH. contains a membrane with a diameter of 48 cm, tuned to 22 Hz. Since the extraordinarily small reset force of the clamping is not capable of holding the weight of the membrane, complete with voice coil, the system axis is laid out perpendicularly with the membrane suspended by its centre to a spiral spring whose natural oscillations are damped by a cylinder padded on the inside and enveloping the spiral.

    AES / A History of Audio Engineering and Magnetic Recording Before 1943
    Headphones and Loudspeakers
    Martin Schildbach
    SiemensAG, Frankfurt/M, Germany

    Added: max excursion 2 cm; weight 130 kg
    All information I have found here:
    http://klangfilm.free.fr/index.html
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    Last edited by Hoerninger; 03-03-2007 at 08:04 AM. Reason: Added info

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