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    Off-topic for Heather

    We spoke lately about some great steel-string acoustic players- it looks like I might be getting the call to run the sound for George Winston for a small, private charity concert nearby with him playing slack key Hawaiian style guitar. Last year they used this:

    http://richardritchey.tripod.com/sit.../fender.pa.jpg

    I'll need to unpack more stuff to check it all before the show, should be a lot of fun. I like a deadline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBLRaiser View Post
    The orange rings are LE25's.
    If you take out the interior frames with the cloth, the new foam grilles will seat down in there.
    Thanks, I appreciate the information. Some of the cross-reference charts here still show the LE20 along with the 123A-3, but the history narratives do state the LE25s should be in these later L100s. Any clue on the availability of the re-cone kits? I was lucky enough to get some from norealtalent in the past.

    I'll check to see how removable the interior frames are.

    je

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnaec View Post
    One of those, along with something like an iPod, would be nice to take along whenever buying used speakers. A number of time's I've brought along a small AC powered amp and portable CD player, but battery operated would be easier...

    John
    ...and MP3s of sweeping frequency tones...

    je

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    Noise from woofer

    OK, I found what was making the noises from the woofer, and it seems like more factory issues- somebody was in a rush when these were coming through QC off the assembly line.

    The more obvious noise was the tie-wrap for the bundle of wires up towards the midrange doghouse, it was never trimmed and was able to contact the woofer's cone. But then, taking the woofer out, I noticed that only 3 of the screws had T-Nuts! The fourth screw must have just come out predictably the first time I removed the woofs, so I didn't even think to look. There's not enough wood at the screw hole site to support a T-Nut, and from what I can tell (I'll get a mirror & maybe a camera in there tomorrow) there's no sign the T-Nut was never installed. The screw, when in place, vibrates just enough on any extended bass notes to be audible. When not in place, the hole whistles (especially if the port is plugged, right Zilch?). I suppose it's also possible that the woofer frame could flex in extreme circumstances, but that's not really my # 1 concern. I'll look into options, like maybe a strip of metal that could attach where there's good wood, and have the correct thread nut somehow secured to it and aligned with the screw hole.

    Fun.

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    No holes allowed with plugged ports, nope.

    [If the T-nut WAS in there, yer gonna hafta find it now.... ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilch View Post
    No holes allowed with plugged ports, nope.

    [If the T-nut WAS in there, yer gonna hafta find it now.... ]
    No sign on the inside of the baffle that the t-nut was ever pressed in properly, and I did find it- wedged in the edge of the inside of the woofer, stuck in the doping and vibrating between the frame and the pleated edge of the cone. It had glue & wood chips in the threads, doesn't look like a screw had ever been in it. I had another type of t-nut with the same thread (slid in from the inside of the opening towards the screw hole), grabbed onto the wood that was still there nicely.

    Sounds MUCH better now. So, of course, going with the various bad influences of this forum, I stacked 'em & threw a Lava Lamp on top! This one's for you, Superbee.
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    Stacked!!!

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    Doedn't count unless you have them in diagonal corners of the room!
    Then you can lay on yer bed and have Audio Nervana - or, is that Twisted Nerve ...?

    But actually- don't you have enough to put a 2-stack in all 4 corners of the room??

    (Zilch must be vibrating by now at just the thought of 8 L100s in Harmon-y)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Sanford View Post
    No sign on the inside of the baffle that the t-nut was ever pressed in properly, and I did find it- wedged in the edge of the inside of the woofer, stuck in the doping and vibrating between the frame and the pleated edge of the cone. It had glue & wood chips in the threads, doesn't look like a screw had ever been in it. I had another type of t-nut with the same thread (slid in from the inside of the opening towards the screw hole), grabbed onto the wood that was still there nicely.

    Sounds MUCH better now. So, of course, going with the various bad influences of this forum, I stacked 'em & threw a Lava Lamp on top! This one's for you, Superbee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilch View Post
    You do realize that this was purposely done to get this reaction from you, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjames View Post
    Doedn't count unless you have them in diagonal corners of the room - Audio Nervana - or, is that .... Twisted Nerve ...?

    But - you have enough to put a 2 stack in all 4 corners of the room, don't you??
    Not quite if you're talking all L100s, I could do a 2-stack in diagonal corners or a single speaker in each of the 4 corners with L100s - which would bother Zilch more? But, I'm pretty sure I could get even more Nirvana-ish with an L46 in each of the 4 corners, and then 2 more firing straight down from the ceiling above the bed. And don't tell me that six 8" woofs don't have slammin' bass unless the whole forum comes over and listens to music in my bedroom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Sanford View Post
    You do realize that this was purposely done to get this reaction from you, right?
    I'm walking through it with a "Stacker" over on AudioKarma.

    Thus far, we have purchased a Radio Shack SPL meter, and have determined that his preferred listening level in his 12' x 12' room is 100 - 110 dB(C), with 117 dB peaks.

    Still looking for port plugs, but it looks like it will happen.

    Some "familiar" players have participated in the thread:

    http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103186

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