Closing a thread

[Rolf]

I have a question to those who have moderator status and the power to close a thread and to ban people:

Why is it so important to close a thread just because there are arguments, different opinions? Are you seeing something we regular members don't?

Don't you think that this would die out by itself? That the ones involved finally will get tired?

I know I would have felt very insulted if I had been cut off just expressing my meanings.

Moderators, please explain.

[Robh3606]

What everyone has forgotten

The intent of this forum is to develop a community of people that share a common interest in the products and legacy associated with James B. Lansing. To that end, it is my intent to foster as wide ranging discussion as possible. There is even a place for non Lansing related discussion - the "Off-Topic" forum.

This is not a place to blog, save the world, or discuss personal issues. We are here to discuss audio. That thread was a complete distraction from the stated purpose. The people banned were sock puppets for individuals who were previously banned for threatening and outrageous behavior. I am going to review the content and IP adresses again today to see if any one else will be joining them.

Rob

[hjames]

What everyone has forgotten

The intent of this forum is to develop a community of people that share a common interest in the products and legacy associated with James B. Lansing. To that end, it is my intent to foster as wide ranging discussion as possible. There is even a place for non Lansing related discussion - the "Off-Topic" forum.

This is not a place to blog, save the world, or discuss personal issues. We are here to discuss audio. That thread was a complete distraction from the stated purpose. The people banned were sock puppets for individuals who were previously banned for threatening and outrageous behavior. I am going to review the content and IP adresses again today to see if any one else will be joining them.

Rob

Bless you for the reminder of our focus here!

And thanks for watching over us.

[scott fitlin]

I have a question to those who have moderator status and the power to close a thread and to ban people:

Why is it so important to close a thread just because there are arguments, different opinions? Are you seeing something we regular members don't?

Don't you think that this would die out by itself? That the ones involved finally will get tired?

I know I would have felt very insulted if I had been cut off just expressing my meanings.

Moderators, please explain.

But what are we supposed to do when the conversation, if you can call it that, is used for purposes of baiting others into arguments and fights?

Not to mention private conversations made public, the purpose of which is expressly to hurt, and belittle others, and continue to stir the pot.

Hey Rolf, you have been here for a while, and we seem to be getting a whole new crop of members, who want nothing more than to incite fighting and arguing and insulting and belittling others. What is the point of allowing useless dissention build up? It only cheapens the forum.

Some seem to want to speak only of what junk they think JBL is! Thats fine on another forum, some forums may even welcome that type of talk.

But, if left unchecked, these argumentative and insulting threads quickly spiral out of control.

[Rolf]

Rob and Scott.

I understand your points. Maybe it is me. I don't really care what people write in those kind of threads. I read some, some not, but I rarely comment in them, and that is why I believe they will die out by themselves.

I can't see that there is the same "troublemakers" coming back again and again under different aliases as you do. If that is the case they surly must be stopped. I don't like harse tones and insulting anymore than you do.

You are both right, they can do this on other forums. You have both answered my questions so I won't need to ask them again.

And yes, I have been here for quite a while ... hopefully not made to much noise or yelling.

[Titanium Dome]

It's a tough call. Sometimes I think it goes on too long, and sometimes I think it's cut off too soon. Moderators cannot win in these instances.

I'm in agreement with Rolf that the elegant way to handle it is not to respond. It's hard to stay out though, when you read some of the knuckleheaded stuff that gets written. I did manage to stay out of the last flame war, so maybe I'm learning. :dont-know

[Mr. Widget]

That thread was a complete distraction from the stated purpose.

It's a tough call... Moderators cannot win in these instances.

I don't think most people realize just how much time is required reading over threads to make sure no one is being flamed or otherwise abused... many times these are threads that may not be of particular interest to a moderator and yet we still get bogged down in them... then there are those people who seem to have little else going on in their lives other than attempting to distract us from our stated purpose.

I am going to review the content and IP adresses again today to see if any one else will be joining them

Thanks Rob... I for one really appreciate your dedication.


Widget

[Rolf]

I don't think most people realize just how much time is required reading over threads to make sure no one is being flamed or otherwise abused... many times these are threads that may not be of particular interest to a moderator and yet we still get bogged down in them... then there are those people who seem to have little else going on in their lives other than attempting to distract us from our stated purpose.

Thanks Rob... I for one really appreciate your dedication.


Widget

This is something I have been thinking about several times. As a moderator I guess one have to read everything that is written in the area he or she is responsible for. Must be quite a job.

[boputnam]

...I believe they will die out by themselves.

Unfortunately, not often (nor soon...) enough!

...I have been here for quite a while ... hopefully not made to much noise or yelling.

Not at all.

It's a tough call. Sometimes I think it goes on too long, and sometimes I think it's cut off too soon. Moderators cannot win in these instances.

Yea. The hardest part is when someone tags into a single person, or small element of the forum - deciding whether that merits action or not, is tedious. Best is to discourage any of that from anybody - this helps ensure things stay on-track more often. It makes the line less grey...

I'm in agreement with Rolf that the elegant way to handle it is not to respond. It's hard to stay out though, when you read some of the knuckleheaded stuff that gets written.

Yup. And we have talked about it the same. Our trying to "talk someone down" off the ledge too often ends in larger disaster. You might have noticed these days, we mostly stay out of the dialogue, only to show up with the fire brigade, saying nothing and abruptly closing the building "for safety sake"...

[jim3860]

Rob and Scott.

I understand your points. Maybe it is me. I don't really care what people write in those kind of threads. I read some, some not, but I rarely comment in them, and that is why I believe they will die out by themselves.

I can't see that there is the same "troublemakers" coming back again and again under different aliases as you do. If that is the case they surly must be stopped. I don't like harse tones and insulting anymore than you do.

You are both right, they can do this on other forums. You have both answered my questions so I won't need to ask them again.

And yes, I have been here for quite a while ... hopefully not made to much noise or yelling.

i have certainly noticed on other forums that once drama starts its hard to stop. there is uasally a core group of people that start and keep up the BS. REGARDS JIM