JBL ARRAY Demo in Sweden

[grumpy]

'Any chance JBL might make those Everest test CD's available?

John

Previous Eargle Demo discs... appears to be some overlap.

http://www.delosmus.com/genre/demo.html

sorry for going off topic. If more info pops up on these, perhaps a new thread
could be started. -grumpy

[northwood]

Scandinavian's taste is quite different from american.
Many people never heard of Burmester things
I love Burmester,MBL,ASR,AudioNet Germany stuffs and Northern machines ,they analyse more accurately

[Valentin]

how is the sound

[Heinz]

Thanks for the photos! Now... how about the review?


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Hi.... im back. Sorry for the delay. My internet provider realy screw everything up this weekend. No meil, No internet, NO SERVICE

Report is on the way (long one) latest wensday evening when im back home. ( out on busines trip )

/ Heinz

[scott fitlin]

I thought they were bigger than they appear in the pictures in this thread.

The Array series speakers seem kind of small. Maybe its the pictures?

I want to hear about how they sound, too!

[Rolf]

I thought they were bigger than they appear in the pictures in this thread.

The Array series speakers seem kind of small. Maybe its the pictures?

I want to hear about how they sound, too!

No Scott, they are not very big. I have not read the specs, but they (1400) are not much over 16-17" wide, as you can see by the size of the 14" woofer.

As for the sound I have made my comments earlier, but few seems to care for my opinion.

[scott fitlin]

No Scott, they are not very big. I have not read the specs, but they (1400) are not much over 16-17" wide, as you can see by the size of the 14" woofer.

As for the sound I have made my comments earlier, but few seems to care for my opinion.

I wouldnt say I dont care for your opinion, only that I want to hear someone elses too!

Truthfully, even with 40 opinions, I would still have to hear them for myself to really know what " I " think of them.

[Rolf]

Truthfully, even with 40 opinions, I would still have to hear them for myself to really know what " I " think of them.

I could not agree more. Only after having the equipment and listening to it in my own house ... Then I will make a final judgement if they are good enough for ME.

[Heinz]

OK here we go...

Lets start with this statment from me.

Remember when you read my coments that my ears have ben colored with JBL speakers from the 70:s and wintage Marantz equipment!!! My comparison is my equipment that i use every day. L300 with Marantz 1070 and 2275 and varius cd players etc. My sound reference may not be the same as yours.

My bakground as Guitar and Mandolin player in Pop/rock bands in the 80:s and many evenings and weekends listening on both acoustic and electric instruments. And of course different singers in the band have influences on my references.

Befor this listening sesion i prepaired me with a selction of CD:s that i have as references. You se those on one of my first uploaded pictures. You even se some of my referenc equipment in those pictures. I vas going throu those cd:s some houers´on the friday morning.

This was a rainy day and when i arived at 14,00 there vas not many in the hifi shop!! Lars-Olov smiled when i entered the smal listening room whith my "pack" of cd:s The setup in that rom was the Array 800, HK 645 Reciever vith an option to switch tho Swedish Bladelius amplifier and cd. Transparant cables vere used. Se pictures. Anothe guy vere listening on some clasical music and i joined him there. after 1h i had a god figure on those Array 800. Asolutely beutiful in sound for Clasic, Jazz, Vocal. Slightly impressed on their clean bass. But my main focus is the Array 1400!!!!!!

Out in the big room the speakers vere placed on the same place as every big demo vere maid in that HIFI shop for years, I have attended sessions with almost every brand that are on the market here in sweden in that room. From A - Z you name it.

Equipment used vas Burmeister Amplifier and CD player, Transparent cables and electric cleaning from Transparant.

Lars-Olov chosed from his cd:s and explained how they vere developed by Gregg at JBL. Why the horn is vertical on how they had problem to convince the people in Japan that this is the way to go. Lars-Olov is one of the guys in the design group that develops and evaluate speakers at JBL.

He took us throu a amazing yurney from the first stereo recordings from 1955 with Buddy Holly al the way up to Mikael Jacksons Bad. He had digged out the original tapes from Stax Studios in the fifftys an copied them straight on a cd without any changes. Everybody vhere amazed abouth quality of the sound. The compleet list comes up later in another post.

More News in another post on NEW JBL SPEAKER LINE. Dont mis that intervjue vith Lars-Olov

We listened thru some of the CD:s i had and ended the session there.

This was Friday and Saturday would be the BIG Test for the speakers.

Saturday morning i started with a complet move of my L300 out in a big room to copy the acoustic from the HIFI shop. Listened throu the CD:s once more and made some notes.

After lunch this Saturday im back in the HiFI Shop and Lars-Olov smiled and chered when i took my place at the front row. Now the big test.

2h later my conlusion was this: JBL is back !!! with some coments.

A litlebit lack of 3d imaging.
Exeptional highend.
Werry dynamic sound.
Non Forgiving = Shit in / Shit Out ( This is good )
Not bass shy but dont go deep as L300:s

Conclusion 1: The best you can find in the market right now

Conclusion 2: Vintage JBL L300 is still a HighEnd speaker.

Conclusion 3: Todays HighEnd amplifiers is not worth the money.

Conclusion 4: A Shoot out with Wintage and Modern eqipment is on my list to do.

This is al for now. Part 2 comes tomorow evening. Time to sleep...

Sorry for bad speling and gramma.... check spelling not working today

/ Heinz

[Mr. Widget]

This is al for now. Part 2 comes tomorow evening. Time to sleep...

Sorry for bad speling and gramma.... check spelling not working today

Thanks Heinz... and don't worry about the spelling/grammar thing, without spell check my posts would be completely unreadable.


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[Chas]

Thanks Heinz, I hope to get an opportunity to hear them sometime too. Also, it's good to hear that you think the good old L300 can still stand up and hold its own.
Charles.

[Rolf]

I am not surprised that the L300 "stands up" to the Arrays.

[Ducatista47]

Same here, Rolf. I always enjoy my speakers more when I am hearing what is good about their sound. Improvement does happen when you listen for what is wrong with them, but that is for workshop evaluation, not listening to music sessions.

I would love to hear the Arrays. If it happens to be L300's or 4333's in the room, of course they will do a fine job of presenting music. They were always good speakers. Any good speaker has its unique voice which is good all by itself, without comparing it to anything else. We are so technical here we lose sight of that sometimes.

I love my VW's and when I am driving the fact that they are not Porsches does not intrude on the enjoyment. They "hold up" just fine.

Thank you so much, Heinz, for reporting this event for us. Your coverage is wonderful and your evaluations are exciting to read.

Clark in Peoria

[Rolf]

As you know Clark, I have heard the 1400's, and that is why I commented on the post.

I can add that in the lower mid-range and maybe some places in the hf area the 1400 are a little better than the L300. Compared to my 4 ways ... , well I am not interested in changing to the 1400's.

I am really looking forward to hear the Everest. It must be better.