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    JBL / Gauss / Cetec Information

    Does anyone have some information on the JBL Gauss co-axial's? I'm pretty sure that JBL had aquired Gauss at some point, and that the company had a line of co-axial monitors, but information is elusive, and actual drivers are near impossible to come by. Thanks for ANY comments on this rare breed.

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    Tom Loizeaux
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    I'm no athority by any means, but I understand that the Urei monitors used Altec originally, then switched to JBL. JBL eventually aquired Urei. It was EV that aquired Gauss a few years ago and then ended the Gauss line.

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    You mean these guys here?? That is not an Altec woofer and the compression driver looks like a 2425 with no tire.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Urei-801-15-Dupl...em270034130005

    The reference chart just gives you revision numbers and the coaxes so it's not much help.

    http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Sys...I%20Series.pdf


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    For future reference here are the images.


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    If anyone cares...

    Those co-axials are PAS (Professional Audio Systems) CXL-1580 (3" VC)...OEM'ed for UREI with a JBL 2425 driver.

    I changed my answer. It's definitely a CXL-1580

    Why? Because the CXL-1580 is for a 1" exit compression driver. The CX-2580 has a 4" voice coil and is for a 2" exit compression driver.


    The next co-ax for the UREI 813C was the 801C which was a JBL E145 modified into a co-ax. I believe Rob has one or two of those. I seen pitchers.


    Too bad the seller doesn't really know what it is...although PAS woofers are very much like Altec....as well as being very underrated.

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    Thanks Edge

    That's one mystery solved. I was wondering what woofers those were. Edge which driver would that be in the matrix, if it's in there at all??? Maybe we can add the driver photo's to the Photo Gallery so we have them there and they won't get "lost" with the thread over time??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robh3606
    Thanks Edge

    That's one mystery solved. I was wondering what woofers those were. Edge which driver would that be in the matrix, if it's in there at all??? Maybe we can add the driver photo's to the Photo Gallery so we have them there and they won't get "lost" with the thread over time??

    Rob
    Rob,

    That would be the 801B. The recone parts list for "U801B" says NLA...from JBL that is. Recone kits are still available from PAS as it's still a current product.

    I'm not certain if there was anything unique that Urei had PAS do to the driver....I doubt it.
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    Gauss not Urei

    I am familiar with all of the Urei series A, B, and C, as we own all of the varieties. What I was looking for was pictures / information on the Gauss 3588, 3288 series. I had seen an auction on EBay for a pair of 3588's some time ago, but they are extremely rare.

    I was mistaken in who had bought out Gauss. Thank you for the information there.

    Any further information on Gauss Coaxial's would as always be greatly appreciated! Thanks all!

    Frederick (UreiCollector)

    PS. The Urei series used

    A = Altec Lansing Coaxial / Eminance LF Driver
    B = PAS Woofer with JBL compression Driver / Eminance LF Driver
    C = JBL Throughout
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    There is a JBL/Gauss connection. The loudspeaker division of Gauss was originally headed by Ed May, JBL's former transducer engineer after he left JBL in 1969. He designed their initial series of drivers which were intended to be musical instrument speakers meant to compete with JBL's "F" series. I believe the coaxials came later, after he left in 1973.
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    I am posting photos of some Gauss speakers I have for sale in the LA area. The drivers in the 7258 monitors are the 3588 co-ax 15" drivers mentioned in this post. also shown are two very large 7480 studio monitors, anchored by 18" drivers.
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    Just a though - post a price and put your ad in the For Sale section?

    Quote Originally Posted by dj1620 View Post
    I am posting photos of some Gauss speakers I have for sale in the LA area. The drivers in the 7258 monitors are the 3588 co-ax 15" drivers mentioned in this post. also shown are two very large 7480 studio monitors, anchored by 18" drivers.
    2ch: Oppo, JoLida 502CRC, JBL L212, 18ti,240ti; Heath AS101, Von Schweikert VR4
    7.1: Oppo BDP103D, B&K, UREI 809A, JBL B460

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    Thanks for sharing these Gauss beauties... I rotated this one for a better view.

    I wonder if there is a missing lens or something in front of the mid horn. Does anyone have more info on these?

    Widget

    BTW: Welcome aboard... and as Heather pointed out, it wouldn't be a bad idea to also start a new thread in the Market Place area announcing their sale.
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    Mr.Widget asks

    "Does anyone have more info on these?"

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    Don has all of my Gauss info.

    These studio monitors were included in that information.

    Don,could you scan and post that info?

    Oldmics

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    Damn... that's too bad. Don has been away for quite a spell... hopefully when he returns this and other mysteries will be cleared up.

    They do look like serious pieces of gear. I would love to audition them.


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    Tom Loizeaux
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    They look like Gauss's version of JBL 4343s!

    Tom

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