Looking lonely in the barren corner, the Salons were slightly smaller than I expected. Still, at over 150 lb. I wasn't taking them lightly. The placement almost seemed haphazard.
Yet, the narrow baffle and the waveguide really made for an excellent soundstage, both wide and sort of deep despite the dreadful conditions.
Someone thought it would be good to put an overstuffed leather love seat on the side wall. :dont-know
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Yep, my pictures suck, but all I had was my phone in a dark room.
The equipment closet was in the rear, and it had the obligatory McIntosh kit, as well as Denon Bluray, Marantz processor, and more. When the room was completely dark, the many lights coming through the closet's glass door reflected annoyingly off the TV screen.
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Here's a lonely Gem surround. It had a sweet, sweet sound and would be a nice speaker all on its own. Of course, it would need a sub. PT800 all grown up? More like a cousin, I think.
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A rich cousin?Originally Posted by Titanium Dome
I have thought about getting a pair as I'd like something about that size in my living room... but I have never heard them and I have a hard time spending that much on something I've never heard... well, I've heard them, but only as rear surrounds and that doesn't count.
Oh, and yes, your pictures are painfully bad, but thanks for sharing.
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I still prefer the -look- of the original Ultima series ...
they had more of an exuberant personality.
I agree...I still prefer the -look- of the original Ultima series ...
they had more of an exuberant personality.
I understand the technical reasoning behind the Salons and Studios, but the new Gems, appear to be a compromise to satisfy someone else's aesthetics...
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When i saw the photos of the new Salons in 2007, I was dubious, but when I first saw them almost two years ago, they were much nicer in reality. As I noted above, I was surprised they looked a bit smaller this time, but it might have been the bare room that diminished them visually.
There's no doubt that they sound great and that they sound better than the original Salons. The original Salons can be had used for under $7k, which makes them a fantastic bargain, but I'd rather spend the extra $$ for the current model. It would be a disappointment to have the originals after spending time with the 2s.
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Perhaps. I've not had the pleasure of hearing the new series yet.It would be a disappointment to have the originals after spending time with the 2s.
Thus far, I -have- heard -quite- a few disparate speaker examples that
make magic with quality source material (sometimes only with -certain- source
material), most of which I will unlikely ever own. This does not
guarantee daily disappointment (thank goodness) vs what I own, but does
allow me to appreciate that there are many levels and areas of speaker
performance that can provide elements of personal enjoyment, and that
those levels and areas tend to be weighed a little bit differently by
everyone.
Makes speaker design to a mass market a real bitch.
I couldn't stand it. Too large of an audience to satisfy and most likely none of them are ever coming to my home.
That was my thoughts when I heard the Salon2 in SF two months ago, the natural step up from the PT800.
But you must like a completely dead room, I do not. I've heard such rooms, no thanks. The room I heard the Salons in did have four 2x4 panels along the side walls about a foot apart and each rising in elevation to the one next to it. And there was a funky ceiling defuser. But that's it.
But unlike the room you show, the Salons in that SF dealer's room were at least 4 ft from the sides and at least 5 ft out from the screen wall. Just about how I would have placed them. And for most music, if not all, I would turn the sub off, only using it for movies.
Living in the Land of the Sun
I agree with most of what you say, but I have no idea where you pulled this from.
A properly treated room is not a dead room by any means.
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Anechoic chamber is a dead room.
From this statement of yours.I agree with most of what you say, but I have no idea where you pulled this from.
One question I asked repeatedly was about room treatments, as the rooms seemed undertreated to me. The answers I got were somewhat surprising. The basic response, repeated several times, was that they limit treatments to carpet, furniture, and perhaps a (very) few thin wall panels. The main exception was to have many thin wall panels in the room with tile flooring.
IMO, nothing wrong with those conditions.
If the room would have had tile floors and huge amounts of windows, w/o drapes and speakers set right into the corners, then, yes, add treatments
Exactly my point. I've been in HT rooms, that to me, were about as dead. The music had no life to it whatsoever.Anechoic chamber is a dead room.
Living in the Land of the Sun
Most home listening environments would be considerably less live than these pictured "listening" rooms. Simply adding an upholstered couch, an arm chair or two and carpets will do a lot to tame a room. If you've ever moved, pay attention to the sound of your voice once the furniture has been removed from the room... the change is quite remarkable.
If the listening room is not fully furnished with wood tables and chairs to act as diffusers and upholstered furniture to act as absorbers, you will need a fair amount of treatment to have a decent room.
Of course, if you prefer an unusually bright room, that is fine, but most music is produced and recorded with a more "typical" room in mind.
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