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    This should be interesting [DEQX by two]

    I have been lucky enough to pick up a second Deqx 2.6P. This one is the dual chassis version with a full compliment of digital in's and out's as well as the balanced outputs.

    Now I can daisy chain the 2 units together and use it as a full stereo 5 way utilizing the Deqx crossover system. Should be a very interesting journey. Of course I will only use 8 of the 12 available channels for driving the stereo 4 way system while 2 of the channels will be used to sync or daisy chain the Deqx's. That leaves an extra pair of outputs for future use. This should be one powerfull processing system with incredible control over the crossover points and slopes. So far I have been quite impressed with the overall performance of the system but have only used the preamp section and parametric eq functions.

    Widget.........I will probably be calling on you for some assistance.

    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Pachkowsky
    Widget.........I will probably be calling on you for some assistance.
    I'll be contacting AT&T in the morning to change my number.


    ...er, um, I mean congratulations!


    Widget

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    Talking Oy!

    widget, you can be such a bad bay!

    Congratulations, Ken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Widget
    Call me as soon as you can Ken, I`d love to help, my new number is 1-800 Got-Bose.


    Widget
    Way to go Widget, your such a sport, and all around good guy!

    Way cool, Ken, congrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott fitlin
    Way to go Widget, your such a sport, and all around good guy!

    Way cool, Ken, congrats.

    Thanks Scott. We shall see if I have the smarts to set it up properly. The instructions are somewhat straight forward but the software is not the most intuative. I have never really learned how to "properly" interpret graphs and will definately have to get a better handle on that to use it properly.

    If I like the results I will part with my Westlake HRX although I am not sure if anyone other than an HR1 owner would be interested.

    Ken

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    Its exactly this that made my go with the BSS over the Lake Contour, I just didnt want to have to use laptop to set it up, or make minor adjustments, couldnt give up my front panel controls.

    Of course, if you take the time to get the best the DEQX can provide, you should get really excellent results.

    scottyj

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott fitlin
    Its exactly this that made my go with the BSS

    Do you have the BSS 960 or 966?

    Ken

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    Im talking about xover, the 366T, and your DEQX also is a comprehensive loudspeaker crossover, that also has EQ, and time alignment, etc.

    With DEQX, and Lake Contour, in order to make adjustments, and set up, you need to connect a lap top to the unit. Unlike the traditional way of front panel knobs, or menu screen.

    Of course, its pretty well known that the Lake and DEQX have the best sounding DSP available presently, just a bit more work to set up.
    scottyj

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott fitlin
    Im talking about xover, the 366T the best sounding DSP available presently, just a bit more work to set up.
    Oh sorry, yes I did some reading on the BSS system several months ago and it sounded very interesting as well. How do you like it?

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    Its good, its easy to set up and use. It allows me to do whatever I want, gain, slopes, filter types, time align, EQ, limiting, etc. Once I got it going to full potential it sounds quite good.
    scottyj

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    Helps to read carefully

    Here is a plot after running speaker analysis and creating correction filters with the Deqx. My initial curves were bogus as I did not follow the instructions properly by dragging the stop line to the first reflection point on the curve (before creating the filters).

    Widget, that's why the initial plots looked so bad.

    I shot this this morning after reading the manual thoroughly and re-shooting. I took your advice and placed puffy pillows on the floor from the base of the speakers to below the mic. These were shot at 5 feet 2 inches pointed directly between the 2 horns.

    This plot shows the system after the newly created correction filters were applied. Not to bad considering this room is far from ideal.

    Ken
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    Curves...

    So, what's the red and what's the green curve...?
    What is that sharp notch at ~160 Hz (a crossover point?)?

    And, ferchrissake - tell us how it sounds!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by boputnam
    Curves...

    So, what's the red and what's the green curve...?
    What is that sharp notch at ~160 Hz (a crossover point?)?

    And, ferchrissake - tell us how it sounds!!
    The red is the right channel and green is dah left.

    The notch is a crossover, room , driver anomaly or? Seriously I have no idea whats causing it but the nearest crossover point is 250hz

    How does it sound? Well, it sounds damned good but a bit hollow IMHO. The sound stage is wider, less defined and slightly muddy. I think tweaking this and more importantly "learning how to use it" will take some time. Having never used Parametric Eq's they are definitely interesting in terms of flexibility.

    Ken

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    I'm sure you've probably seen this review - it really illuminated a bunch of stuff for me: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/deqx/deqx.html

    I do have a question, though. The Deqx site mentions speaker correction, room correction, and media correction. For room correction, it mentions up to 10 bands of graphic or parametric EQ, and apparently less for media correction, but I couldn't see where speaker correction might also have a specific filter selection. Do you know how many bands of graphic/parametric selection that speaker correction has, or is it lumped in with the 10 band room correction?

    John

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