D130 vs D130F and D131 vs D131F

[speakerdave]

Yes, I installed a pair in a Fender 2-12 enclosure and I get a beautiful tone with a chime that I am seeking. I was hoping I wouldn't hurt them using close to 30 watts from a guitar amp.

30 watts won't blow out the woofer part, but remember it's high frequency hash from clipped low-powered amps that blows tweeters.

David

[Harvey Gerst]

Here is a frequency response graph from the literature for the 2130 pro driver, which is the same as the D131, as I understand.

Okay, so either statement is somewhat valid, depending on your "interpretation"; you could claim "it has response to around 17 KHz", as per the literature, or you can claim (as I did), "it went out to around 6 or 7 KHz, and fell like a rock from there".

[Harvey Gerst]

30 watts won't blow out the woofer part, but remember it's high frequency hash from clipped low-powered amps that blows tweeters.

David

David is right - keep the tweeter levels way down low.

[speakerdave]

Okay, so either statement is somewhat valid, depending on your "interpretation"; you could claim "it has response to around 17 KHz", as per the literature, or you can claim (as I did), "it went out to around 6 or 7 KHz, and fell like a rock from there".

I agree entirely.

David

[dpapazoni]

Yes, Harvey I understand that, It doen't give any (+ or - db) for that frequency range. I always thought JBL was rigid and the (+ and - db) was understood. This publication was before they gave the understood rigidness in specs.( I think that is what I mean). Frequency volume falls like a rock when you get to 6 or 7k.

Okay, so either statement is somewhat valid, depending on your "interpretation"; you could claim "it has response to around 17 KHz", as per the literature, or you can claim (as I did), "it went out to around 6 or 7 KHz, and fell like a rock from there".

[speakerdave]

Darrell, I hope tonight's gig goes well.

David

[dpapazoni]

Yes, I will have to do that with my Tone controls on my amp, there is no attenuator. I only use a small touch of tweeter action in the tone, that I seek.

David is right - keep the tweeter levels way down low.

[dpapazoni]

The tweeter is factory set to flat response, I believe

Yes, I will have to do that with my Tone controls on my amp, there is no attenuator. I only use a small touch of tweeter action in the tone, that I seek.

[dpapazoni]

I will keep my main enclosure with me and ready, if I feel the LE12Cs won't take the punishment

The tweeter is factory set to flat response, I believe

[dpapazoni]

Thank you Gentlemen,

I need to get ready.

I will keep my main enclosure with me and ready, if I feel the LE12Cs won't take the punishment

[speakerdave]

I'm feeling a little angst for you right now. I have some D131's and D123's sitting here doing nothing, and I'd gladly teleport them to you right now. Keep your levels down. Are you mic'ing that Fender into a larger rig?

David

[dpapazoni]

No, maybe I should not try the LE12C-1s. It is very scarey

[speakerdave]

No, maybe I should not try the LE12C-1s. It is very scarey

Depends on the size of the room and what you are trying to do. I'm outside of my area of experience here, but I think a back-up is a good idea.

David

[Zilch]

How many guitar amps use cone/dome tweets?

Don't do it, I'd say....

[edgewound]

Sounds like the D120F's you have are a candidate for a magnet recharge....also, are the aluminum domes in place or have they been replaced with paper domes?....the aluminum dome with a fully charged magnet is where that "chime" tone character comes from.

If the speaker has been dropped or jolted around or constantly subjected to high temps, been near lightning storms....lots can happen in 50 years if you don't know where they've been.

Oh....and don't bother with the LE12C....you'll just hurt it.