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    Iwata Vs Smith horn

    hello

    I would like to know the difference in sound between an Iwata Horn and smith Horn used between 1000 hz up to 10 0000 hz .

    I know in Europe that "Phil mundi" makes Iwata Horn using Jbl and Tad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerard
    hello

    I would like to know the difference in sound between an Iwata Horn and smith Horn used between 1000 hz up to 10 0000 hz .

    I know in Europe that "Phil mundi" makes Iwata Horn using Jbl and Tad...

    Regards

    Gerard
    Bonjour, je pense que nous nous sommes contacté par tel au courant du mois d'Aout je présume?
    Pour répondre à votre question, la différence est le jour et la nuit
    Ayant écouté les 2 pavillons et les ai réalisez aussi ,y a pas photo.Pour conclure je trouve malheureux que JBL ai associé des 2 pouces comme les 2440 & 2441 à ce genre de pavillon!! qui pour moi la 2397 est très limité dans le régistre du bas médium et pour cause de longueur et la petitesse de l'épaisseur de la 2397 si je puis dire!
    Avec les Iwata le chanteur(euse) est dans la pièce d'écoute
    A bientot.
    Phil Mundi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Mundi
    Bonjour, je pense que nous nous sommes contacté par tel au courant du mois d'Aout je présume?
    Pour répondre à votre question, la différence est le jour et la nuit
    Ayant écouté les 2 pavillons et les ai réalisez aussi ,y a pas photo.Pour conclure je trouve malheureux que JBL ai associé des 2 pouces comme les 2440 & 2441 à ce genre de pavillon!! qui pour moi la 2397 est très limité dans le régistre du bas médium et pour cause de longueur et la petitesse de l'épaisseur de la 2397 si je puis dire!
    Avec les Iwata le chanteur(euse) est dans la pièce d'écoute
    A bientot.
    Phil Mundi.
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    Hello, I think that we contacted itself by such with the current of August I suppose?
    To answer your question, the difference is the day and the night
    Having listened to the 2 houses and carry out as,y does not have photo.Pour to conclude I have them find unhappy as JBL associated of the 2 inches like the 2440 & 2441 this kind of house!! who for me the 2397 is very limited in the register of the low medium and due length and the smallness thickness of the 2397 if I then to say!
    With Iwata the chanteur(euse) is in the part of listening
    With soon.
    Phil Mundi.
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    Peter

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    Babelfish or Frenchfish.... I got about the same info from both.

    I too am interested in the Iwata horns. What flare rates are used etc. I get the feeling that Phil is a bit protective of the products he is producing, however without a thorough discussion of what he is producing, I would expect sales to be limited.


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    English translation

    Machine translation leaves much to be desired, but it must in all fairness be said that the French text is garbled. This is a plausible translation:

    "Hi, I believe we were in contact by telephone, sometime during the month of August? To answer your question, the difference is like day and night. Having listened to both horns, and made them, too,

    [some text is missing]

    there is no picture. In conclusion, I find it unfortunate that JBL has associated 2 inch drivers like the 2440 and the 2441 with this type of horn!!! To me, the 2397 is very limited in the lower middle range, because of the short length and the small height, if I may say so!
    With a Iwata horn, the (female) singer is in the room.

    See ya!
    Phil Mundi"

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    Thanks Jan!

    Now if Phil could back off on the flowery praise and explain what is good about the Iwata horns in a more objective way (pattern control, loading, frequency response, distortion etc.) I could get as excited about them as he obviously does.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Widget
    Babelfish or Frenchfish.... I got about the same info from both.

    I too am interested in the Iwata horns. What flare rates are used etc. I get the feeling that Phil is a bit protective of the products he is producing, however without a thorough discussion of what he is producing, I would expect sales to be limited.


    Widget
    I own since a few days four PDF files wich may contain useful informations as they are the Naota Iwata patents. Unfortunately, they are written in japanese and have been saved in image form only : I couldn't use Babelfish to translate...frustrating!!!
    I would appreciate any help to solve this problem. The pdf are joined to my message.
    52-48310 , 54-59129 , 54-45120 , JP 55 133 198. JP52048310_Iwata.pdf

    JP54045120_Iwata.pdf

    JP55133198A.pdf

    JP54059129A.pdf

    Thanks.

    Best regards,

    Luc

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    Thank you for your input!
    Quote Originally Posted by lucfm
    they are written in japanese ...frustrating!!!
    It seems to be like a secret.
    Looking at the pdfs you will notice that each consists of several pages. There are tables and drawings. It is readily identifiable that this horn should create a sperical wavefront with growing radius.
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    Peter

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