2435-HPL on a smith horn

[kartsmart]

I've also owned and used the 2435hpl/2397 combo with 435Be. backcaps on them crossed at 800hz. ]

So how was the sound quality of the 2435-2397 combo, did you like it other than not going low enough

The LE85/EdgarHorn in your mains is not going to sound the same as the 2435/2397, so there is a compromise as far as timbre is concerned,
Good Luck with your project, Steve G.

I was woundering if a LE85/edgarHorn and 2435HPL/EdgarHorn would have a sonic differance, and yes the LE85's diaphragms are Titanium.

Or would a LE85/2397 (2397 scaled down to fit the 1" driver) and 2435/2397 (scaled down to fit the 1.5" ) sound better

the AVR I'm using is a harman/kardon avr 7000

[yggdrasil]

I was woundering if a LE85/edgarHorn and 2435HPL/EdgarHorn would have a sonic differance, and yes the LE85's diaphragms are Titanium.

Or would a LE85/2397 (2397 scaled down to fit the 1" driver) and 2435/2397 (scaled down to fit the 1.5" ) sound better

the AVR I'm using is a harman/kardon avr 7000

The LE85 and 2435 will have sonic differences.

The LE85 on a 2397 is not the best use of either horn / driver:
http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...397#post100793
http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...+2397#post1083

Edgarhorn and 2397 will also have sonic differences.

[kartsmart]

It is sounding like I'm doomed from the start,
I was reading in a post that one should not mix (horns and domes or cone drivers) between the mains and center channel and should keep things near the same for good image. I can see that.
with all 3 front channels using the same horn lens,same mid drivers and the same uhf driver,same crossover points/ but replacing the le85 for a 2435hpl on the center channel / I would have never though it would upset this whole project, Do I need to sell it off for a le85?

[Steve Gonzales]

You can do anything you'd like to, we're just answering your questions to the best of our knowledge and from actual experience. You can try the 2397/2435 and find out if you like it or not, for yourself. A great thing about most JBL drivers and horns is that you can always get most or all of your investment back. You will gain from your experience and that is priceless. I've done alot of unorthodox things and am glad I did, some worked and some failed, but I learned from every try, and haven't lost a cent in the process either.

[kartsmart]

Just finished my first 2327, made it out of maple, I think it came out very good. not near as hard as I would have though it was going to be. Thanks widget for the info.
I went ahead and put the 3" lips on the bottom side and 5" on the top side, so I could install the 2405s as a baffle mount on the upper lip. Just waiting for the 1.5 to 2" throat adapters , where would be the best place to get these ?
this question should get a number of opinions, so lets see where it goes? what would be the best driver to cover say from 50 - 70 HZ and crossing over to the 2397s , maybe a 10 or 12" driver ?

[kartsmart]

sorry that was a 2397 not the 2327 as in the last post

[yggdrasil]

Instead of the adaptors you could try to make a mounting plate of 1/2" plywood and attach it directly to the horn.

[kartsmart]

Johnny could you give more detail on what you were saying ? are you saying just mount the driver to the back of the horn, with no 2328 adapter ? have you tried this how does it work ?

[yggdrasil]

It is the solution I am using on the smaller Smith's.

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...0&postcount=25

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...1&postcount=26

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...7&postcount=33

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...8&postcount=34

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...6&postcount=83

[kartsmart]

Johnny I built the full size 2397s / I have seen in another post that a adapter going from 1-1/2 to 2" is not a bad thing because the 2441 drivers has a long throat due to the magnet circuit where the neo. magnets on the 2335hpl is very short so the horn throat remains near the some lenght plus I do have the 2328 adapters. johnny have you done any work with the 2435hpl's. on the 2397s
what I like to try to do is , make up 5 satellites for a 5.1 system with subwoofer. so I would like to get it down to 50hz.
I not sure how low the 2435s will go on the smith horns ? what x-over point seems to work best
would a 10" driver get me down to 50 hz ok or will I need to go for a 12" ?
how close does the 2435HPL come to the 2441 on the smith horns ?

[yggdrasil]

I have a pair of 2435's on the shelf. Will probably make some horns to them this winter. Want to try at least both Smith's and Tractrix.

Widget has done a lot of testing on the 2441/2397 and says they are best above 1400Hz(if I remember right). It is buried somewhere around here, but a search should reveal it. My guess is that the 2441 will work better at low frequencies than the 2435.

Some 10" drivers will give you 50Hz others won't. My guess would be to look for a 12", e.g. 2020 or 2206.

[kartsmart]

The adapters came in and pulled one of the 650 hz edgar horns with a le85 off one of my mains and replaced it with the smith horn and a 2435hpl , wow I was suprised on how much the highs were extended. Did not get much play time with them, but was pleased so far ! will give up date as time goes.