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    L100T/L100S as a reference/studio monitor

    I saw in a previous post that the L100T was very similar to the 4412. How do you think it would serve as a reference monitor? B/c of some of your suggestions I was thinking of buying a pair of 4412's but if my pair of L100S's will do then why waste the money? I understand that the spcing of the drivers might cause some problems. Thanks.

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    Waste money? I just paid $197.50 for a pair of 4412s on Epay. They should be here in a couple of days. That price is actually less than most of the L100ts have gone for recently, though not by much. Of course they don't have that pretty wood veneer, either.

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    L100t -4412

    if you are looking for a studio monitor go for the 4412 or L112 etc if you want a nice loud rock and roll speaker go for the L100ts. it all depends on what your looking for a really nice studio monitor or a really nice reasonbly priced hi fi speaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim3860
    if you are looking for a studio monitor go for the 4412 or L112 etc if you want a nice loud rock and roll speaker go for the L100ts.
    Not that it really matters much at this point, but I'm curious as to the differences here. I guess what I'm saying is I've owned a pair of L112s for over twenty years and like them a bunch. (But then what I compare everything to are my fifty-year-old 030s, so what do I know?)

    So, if I like loud rock'n-roll on my L112s am I missing something by not having "nice" speakers? I guess I'm assuming from what I read that my new-to-me 4412s I'm waiting to hear will dove-tail nicely with what I'm used to hearing in my L112s. Safe assumption? I know the point of a monitor and I've used EQs in my systems for over thirty years. I also know in my youth when I rocked-out listening to Little Feat, that no EQ was necessary. I always assumed that was because Lowell George always worked with JBL monitors. So why would you not want to listen to music the same way as the engineers who helped create the recording? Are we talking about the difference between Kodachrome and Ektachrome in how it "enhances" the reality? Or the personal preference similar to what drove folks to swear by the "bedroom" sound of the big McIntosh systems? And isn't it really a matter of what your ears are used to hearing? I have yet to accomplish the re-surrounding of my "new" L150As but I expect those to be good "rockers" to complement the L112s. Should sound damn good on Lee Michael's "5th", too Just curious.

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    monitors versus floorstanders

    First off congratulations on being the owner of L112s and L150as They are both very nice in my opinion. I also own a pair of L112s and would like to be the owner of L150as I think if you own both of them allready you have the best of both worlds. No need for L100ts I think your L150as would out perform them. As far as 4412s i cant say how they would compare to the L112s you own. I havent heard them yet REGARDS JIM

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA
    I guess I'm assuming from what I read that my new-to-me 4412s I'm waiting to hear will dove-tail nicely with what I'm used to hearing in my L112s. Safe assumption?
    We're counting on you telling US your impressions of the differences....

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    I'm certainly happy to oblige! It could take a while since both my L112s and my L150As are waiting for those six new surrounds to magically install themselves. The 4412 idea was justified as being cheaper than paying someone to re-foam either of the other pairs, and thus allowing me to DIY, on my schedule. That schedule includes three daughters from ages 11 to 20, college search for the middle child, and, oh yeah, working to pay for all of this! Then there's the space program; not enough space to lay-out an L150 to work on it without someone needing to use the living room for....living. And those new house plans seem to go on hold everytime I quit a job after 20-years, or we send another kid off to college. I'm sure there are a few of you who can relate.

    So, I promise, I will make the comparison, but only with properly restored L-series boxes to make it a fair one. BTW, UPS just arrived with the 4412s in U-haul boxes. From the outside looks like they were packed and handled with care but today I have to drive to DC for my Father-in-law's funeral at Arlington National so they'll just likely stay in the boxes until I return. Unless I want to ruin a perfectly good funeral by taking a peak and risking being P.O.'s for the rest of the week.

    Thanks for listening and for your informative replies. I'm happy to be able to contribute to this great group even in a small way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldizac
    I saw in a previous post that the L100T was very similar to the 4412. How do you think it would serve as a reference monitor
    Voicing is everything in this rarefied area.

    If you really want a studio/reference monitor, you gotta buy that.

    If "pretend" is good enough, well, whatever, then....

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