What kind of post is that.... I think I agree with you about the waste of time and money that many members go through with their seemingly random design attempts... I know about it from firsthand experience!Originally Posted by Giskard
I know that is a marvelously fun thing to post but it only highlights an author's personal ignorance as opposed to much of anything else.But, this post seems to be an attack on the intellect of a fellow forum member... that's just not necessary or cool.
Widget
It's a funny one that Steve answered perfectly.
Dammit Giskard"What are you doing?"
"huh?"
"Are you sniffing my wrapper?"
"Pfft, yeah right, no..."
"Wha-what are you doing? what are you doing?...that's not cool"
"You're not cool"
HUH?We couldn't care less what Zilch would do with one?
You stole my "We" staff?
[Litigation pending....]
I agree... I think he did answer it perfectly.
I guess my funny button is broken.... maybe it's just bent.
Widget
Can't touch this! They were outsourced.HUH?
You stole my "We" staff?
[Litigation pending....
(Actually the "we" thing is just three people. As far as I know...)
I think it's just a heightened security alert thing.I agree... I think he did answer it perfectly.
I guess my funny button is broken.... maybe it's just bent.
Widget
We had a nice discussion about these newest transducers. We were asked not to take any pictures. They are very nice. I'll see if it's ok to post anything else at some point. It's all gotta come out sooner or later anyway.
Even though I can't afford the new "high-tech" JBL systems, it's still nice to drool over!
Ron
Okay, get out the flame throwers.
Has anyone got TS parms for this 2269H woofer yet?
Hmmm, I wonder how it would behave in a sealed box.
At first glance I thought the Vertec cabinets were very pricey, but I think it's time to give them a second look. Maybe I wouldn't need two of these new VT4880A in my studio, maybe one would be enough. Seriously, I'll be pricing these babies tomorrow. What do you think, one Crown CE4000 in bridge-mode per driver?
When I bought my B460s some people said they were overkill, but they were wrong.
Izzy
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"You never have too much headroom in the first octave."
JBL also makes a Vertec Crown-powered sub with a single 2669G, (4 ohm version) - 'sounds like just what you need: http://www.jblpro.com/vertec1/vertec...ec%20Sheet.pdf
John
I realise its OT because I am not talking product but a sub that actually is doing the job does not actually have to play super loud. Besides, very loud bass can be quite damaging to your ears. After the novelty of the sound effect wears off it becomes quite tiring
I would rather have another 5 hertz of extreme extension (say 25 hertz) with low distortion and moderate sensitivity than a system that peaked out max dbs at 40 hertz.
But I guess if the people you live with are deaf and you live in a rough neigbourhood where hoons drive by with 1000 watts in the trunk its okay to stack 2242's to tbe ceiling!
Please, no Bose wave cannon jokes.
I'll refrain from the inside jokes as well. Besides, they aren't really inside jokes per se. These transducers were designed to kick unholy ass and they do that extremely well. For personal use in my home they have absolutely no function whatsoever.
One of my favorite things about JBL is that their speakers often have both finesse and kick-ass level. But if this is not the case with the VT4880A, I may have to keep the B460 subs and add switches on the wall to suit my particular listening mood.
And when I'm really in need of a sub-bass fix, I can turn them both on.
I may be buying one or more of these so I would really like to know the basis of your opinion. Is your opinion of the VT4880A based upon actually listening or better yet, AB comparison? Is it based upon a consensus of other astute listeners?
In clubs like Studio West in San Francisco I used eight Cetec Gauss 18" subs because at the time (1979) JBL did not have an 18" woofer robust enough for that kind of service. The rest of the 4-way amplified system was all JBL (4 each 4560, 2395, 8 each 2405. etc.). Similar to your above statement, I would probably not use Cetec Gauss woofers in my home. They kicked-butt, and they sounded pretty good, but they definitely weren't JBL.
Izzy
Will it be avalible for DIY:ers ?
Now we're getting somewhere!I may have to keep the B460 subs and add switches on the wall to suit my particular listening mood.
Everything can be had, usually just an agreed upon price is required.
It would seem to me that the advantage of a speaker that could play that loud would be that with an equalizer you could could play rather loud (not 140 db) at lower frequencies because the 10 db down point and such are still very loud all you need is plenty of power and the right equalizer and in Zilch's case a little work on the house apparently. (probably a lot of peoples case) I've yet to hear anybody talk about a price. I think the list as a spare part is about $2300 but I'm not sure who you buy it from for that or if you can get it for less. I know when looking at 4880 and 4881 the suffix is very important.
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