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    4333 grilles

    thanks Dave for your grill pics.....searched for help to this in another thread.

    I also try to find out how they fixed the cloth around the corners of the grill frame blocks.
    I can not imagine that it is folded there?

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    The cloth is folded around the frame and about 1/2-5/8" on the back. It is folded and lapped at the corner. That is much better than cutting it at that point, I think. The cloth is so light that it does not bunch up significantly at all.

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    Grill corners

    Quote Originally Posted by speakerdave
    The cloth is folded around the frame and about 1/2-5/8" on the back. It is folded and lapped at the corner. That is much better than cutting it at that point, I think. The cloth is so light that it does not bunch up significantly at all.

    David
    Thanks David for your comments,
    additional question:
    can you pls post a pic from the edges/corners how they folded the cloth, and what's the angle of the grill corners from side to front?
    Thanks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hofmannhp
    . . . . additional question:
    can you pls post a pic from the edges/corners how they folded the cloth, and what's the angle of the grill corners from side to front?
    Thanks....
    Right--I didn't quite understand your question. The cloth seems to be a stretch fabric. There is no folding and lapping at the corners except in back. The way the warp and weft run at the corners it does appear that the cloth is stretched over the frame so that at the corners it shrinks back enough to avoid the necessity of folding. Don't know if the Z-Blue material has this same elasticity. I will try to get a closeup, but I will need to use a film camera, and it will take a week or more to get the image up here.

    The bevel of the frame is 5 degrees on top, bottom, and the sides. The angle at the corners may look like more from some perspectives, but in fact it is a little less (slightly under 4 degrees).

    David

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    4333B grill

    Hi again,

    here's the raw grill construction.....need to be sanded at all corners, painted black and then the Zilch-cloth.

    HP

    PS: it's a lot more stable then my construction from 1980
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    GRILL DIMENSIONS.

    Hi All,

    can anyone tell me the width and length of the 4333a grill. I have and grill from a utility grey pair but, in seems to be about 3/16 short all the way round.

    TIA ,Rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by richluvsound View Post
    Hi All,

    can anyone tell me the width and length of the 4333a grill. I have and grill from a utility grey pair but, in seems to be about 3/16 short all the way round.

    TIA ,Rich
    Measuring over the cloth I have 28-1/4 by 22.

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    Many thanks Dave

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    grilles…

    Quote Originally Posted by richluvsound View Post
    Hi All,

    can anyone tell me the width and length of the 4333a grill. I have and grill from a utility grey pair but, in seems to be about 3/16 short all the way round.

    TIA ,Rich


    rich, someone over here in berlin is getting excited. some 4333 grilles on their way, it seems..... darius

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    Quote Originally Posted by richluvsound View Post
    Hi All,

    can anyone tell me the width and length of the 4333a grill. I have and grill from a utility grey pair but, in seems to be about 3/16 short all the way round.

    TIA ,Rich
    Hi RichLuvSound,

    As I don't know how to insert an Excel file, here are some pictures of drawings I made with Excel :

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    Best regards from France
    Spirou38 JBL 4344MKII 4333A 4312MKII L80T L40 L20T Ti2000

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