Mini DIY

[Zilch]

S'pose one wanted to make mini-4430 using 2404H-1. What would be the appropriate woofer to make a system that actually sounded good?

2118H wouldn't have extended bass.

Thinkin' Biradial Mini-Monitor here....

[johnaec]

S'pose one wanted to make mini-4430 using 2404H-1.

That thought was also going through my mind. I was thinking along the 115 series for LF...

John

[Zilch]

That thought was also going through my mind. I was thinking along the 115 series for LF....

Yup. 115H-1 looks right. Gotta look up the specs, now.

[Hee, hee....]

Giskard likes mini-monitors. He's probably tried this already....

[mvaldes]

I bought a pair of 4312M last year during a business trip in Tokio
When I saw them I loved, but when finally I had hooked them at my home stereo I decided to keep them just as a "collector " item
Very nice to look, but not to listen.
Speakers are made in china and as stated by Anthony, very cheap.

But anyway, they look wonderfull

[johnaec]

Yup. 115H-1 looks right. Gotta look up the specs, now.

Well, I did some relative measurements with the 2404 vs. the 2344, with a comparitive size of .4063. Scaling down a 4430 by that factor results in a cabinet that's smaller than L20T's, so they'd definitely be lacking in the low end. It'd still be fun, (and cute).

John

[Zilch]

That gets a 6" woofer, so we have that right.

Smaller than L20T, huh? That's PERFECT!

We'll make 'em deeper, if necessary. Nobody that doesn't have 'em knows how shallow 4430's actually are....

L20T's crossed at 3 Khz. We're good to go!

http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Te.../L20t%20ts.pdf

I know where to get grille cloth.

No compensation required for the tweeter, looks like:

http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...73&postcount=6

Tell us, please, Giskard, which crossovers to build for these....

[johnaec]

L20T's crossed at 3 Khz. We're good to go!

We need to look at http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...tor+comparison #5, #6. It should be close enough for fun, maybe with a little HF padding...eve the 2404H-1 is good to at least 15K.

Edit: Sheesh - you beat me to it...

BTW - I think a moderator should move the last few posts to DIY - we've gotten kinda O.T. here...

John

[dancing-dave]

Well, I did some relative measurements with the 2404 vs. the 2344, with a comparitive size of .4063. Scaling down a 4430 by that factor results in a cabinet that's smaller than L20T's, so they'd definitely be lacking in the low end. It'd still be fun, (and cute).

John

Make it a 4435 so you can squeeze that extra LF from an added woofer.

I'm all about this

[johnaec]

Prelim design: (mods - please move this mini 4430 stuff to DIY):

Edit: Thanks, mods!

[chad]

Was thinking of doing something quite similar .

Pair of 2404, 2118 crossed at 3k. Extended bass? Just an excuse to build another cabinet to use as a sub .

[Zilch]

Prelim design:

WAY cool, John!

Izzat cute or WHAT?

[Heh, heh.... ]

[dancing-dave]

To extend the LF do you think it would work to have this as a 3-way (in a 4435 configuration? Would it be too unorthodox to use a non-JBL woofer for this job? I don't want to be guilty of JBL-sin, but if the project is just about fun and getting the most from a small package, then it's the "feeling" that I think would be best to preserve.

Probably the best bump for the buck for the added bass in a 4435 configuration (6.5" high-excursion):
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=264-832

[johnaec]

Personally, I'm just sticking with JBL drivers - 'gotta have that "sound". But by all means, anything is OK for fun.

John

[John W]

My Bel-Aire copies have been hooked up in the family room for about a month now, and I find them very listenable. These have 8 in 2110s matted with 2402 tweeters using a home built N2400 network. There is a subwoofer in the corner to fill in the low-end.
I have an extra pair of 2110s looking for a box, this looks like a great project for them. Does anyone have a pair of 2404s they are wanting to sell?

[Steve Gonzales]

My Bel-Aire copies have been hooked up in the family room for about a month now, and I find them very listenable. These have 8 in 2110s matted with 2402 tweeters using a home built N2400 network. There is a subwoofer in the corner to fill in the low-end.
I have an extra pair of 2110s looking for a box, this looks like a great project for them. Does anyone have a pair of 2404s they are wanting to sell?

PM member Norealtalent, he can help.