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    Rigid like acrylic. Half the thickness of 2344s...

    Rigid like acrylic. Half the thickness of 2344s or 2380s, same material, seems like. In S2600, they're isolated in a separate chamber. Not so with S3100....
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    Yeah, it'd be nice if we could see the HORN...

    Yeah, it'd be nice if we could see the HORN part.... :p
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    Well, sure. It ain't as if nobody does stuff...

    Well, sure.

    It ain't as if nobody does stuff for ME here, you know.

    [To what end remains unclear.... :p ]
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    Ask Guido to contact Harman Parts directly,...

    Ask Guido to contact Harman Parts directly, Harman France, in particular.

    He's pretty resourceful in obtaining JBL stuff....
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    Yes, I did too, and it looks in the parts listing...

    Yes, I did too, and it looks in the parts listing system like it is supposed to come with, but nobody knows or cares about that, since there is also a referenced part number for the throat sold...
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    The last throats I got came from Harman France. ...

    The last throats I got came from Harman France. I'd be surprised if there were any in the USA, as it was Hell getting my last pair in December, 2005.

    It's confusing. Since it's not shown on the...
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    It's pretty tough to buy them anymore, alas. ...

    It's pretty tough to buy them anymore, alas.

    Where I'm coming from is I'm hooked on the asymmetric controlled directivity image effect, and thus investigating how it works and what's required to...
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    It's amazing in that it so effectively reverses...

    It's amazing in that it so effectively reverses the normal progressive decay of SPL at the requisite angles without introducing major anomalies in the FR.

    There are some quirks up at 15 kHz, but...
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    Yup. They were my "Final Iteration" over in...

    Yup.

    They were my "Final Iteration" over in Q&D.

    Looks like CLIO has answered the rhetorical question there:

    http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=92145#post92145


    ;)
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    Hi, Earl. 0° is perpendicular to the horn...

    Hi, Earl.

    0° is perpendicular to the horn face, and alignment is to the empirically determined (from impulse delay) acoustic center, which, best I can tell, is at the slot, NOT the driver voice...
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    Controlled Directivity H3100

    Indeed.

    And other stuff, too....
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    There is the remote chance that one or more MKII...

    There is the remote chance that one or more MKII networks are available off the shelf somewhere within the JBL consumer parts system.

    Part numbers 333938-001 (HF) and -002 (LF).

    I've had some...
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    DxR2425, 8 and 16 Ohms. Yeah, that'll work. ...

    DxR2425, 8 and 16 Ohms.

    Yeah, that'll work. I'll PM you the address should you decide to do it.

    Only problem is, I'll have have to actually DO something around here for a change.... :p
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    Yes, but I should probably try to "optimize" the...

    Yes, but I should probably try to "optimize" the installation alignment. One's a little different from the other; I'd like to get them better matched.

    Wish I had a pair of coated standard...
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    Problem with MKII is knowing the inductor DCR's....

    Problem with MKII is knowing the inductor DCR's.

    I could probably guess at them in Spice, smoothing out the notches:

    http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=67212&postcount=10
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    Bottom line: Sound great, frequency response is...

    Bottom line: Sound great, frequency response is different, tho; crossover tweaks required; haven't done it yet.

    Used autoEQ to play them....
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    Confab? Bwahahaha! They won't answer my...

    Confab? Bwahahaha!

    They won't answer my eMail OR my phone calls now.

    Musta flagged me as "TROUBLE!"

    I have two horns, now, no throats. :biting:

    This is Harman consumer I'm dealing...
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    Nope, I don't believe 2426 diaphragm is aquaplas...

    Nope, I don't believe 2426 diaphragm is aquaplas coated....
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    Mini-Everest? Appears to be the same horn...

    Mini-Everest?

    Appears to be the same horn with the face hacked off.

    [O.K., O.K., "truncated," then.... :p ]
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    LE85 Impedance plot, no horn.

    Call it 10 Ohms. :p

    Fmin is 1214 Hz.

    Dunno why I keep getting negative Le's on compression drivers here....

    I'd do it for you on S2600 horn, but that it comes without throat adapter. :( ...
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    That'sa familiar curve, actually. :p O.K.,...

    That'sa familiar curve, actually. :p

    O.K., who's got an S3100 MKII we can tear into to get the DCR's of the inductors? :D

    [Kinda doubt the network's gonna show up on eBay....]
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    Unless that's the 7.5-Ohm 1mH inductor, in which...

    Unless that's the 7.5-Ohm 1mH inductor, in which case, it's:
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    In short ... thus far, we don't know. But we...

    In short ... thus far, we don't know.

    But we encourage you to try it and tell us.... :p

    Check me, now:

    A) S3100 has a deep notch at 2.5 kHz, whereas,
    B) MKII has, ummm, "undulations." :)
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    What I know at this point is if you just stack...

    What I know at this point is if you just stack 'em 2346's facing front on woofers (as in S3100) and get the two drivers in phase perpendicular, when you move the 30° onto real horn axis, you've got a...
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    That'd be 275ND replacement diaphragm in like...

    That'd be 275ND replacement diaphragm in like 2425/6, no?

    Others?
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