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    Sticky: I just found out, 5 years later

    Had to come to this forum and just say thank you Greg.

    My home is full of the products you helped create, that my whole family use daily, year after year.

    You brought happiness to so many...
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    Hey, you paid $500. I paid $11.000 for my Array...

    Hey, you paid $500. I paid $11.000 for my Array 1400's and these were the problems I detected when I took them out of the box (brand new):

    1. One horn had imprinted fingers on one side (can't...
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    An update of an update. The enclosures are...

    An update of an update.

    The enclosures are resonating as always, front baffle in tune with the woofer.

    Is there a reason not to have any damping foam on the inside of the enclosure's front...
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    Just a little update, I received a new pair of...

    Just a little update, I received a new pair of the Arrays.

    What a surprise, looking into the box through the reflex port I noticed that the front baffle has dry, hard bitumen applied on the inside...
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    The amplifier is 500W RMS per channel. I have...

    The amplifier is 500W RMS per channel.

    I have the pot set at -10dB which gives me 24.2V output into 6ohm (being fed with 2.1V input from Cambridge Audio 840C.)

    24.2V into 6ohm ~ 97W RMS

    It's...
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    Uh I have to disagree with you on most of what...

    Uh I have to disagree with you on most of what you wrote, I mean no disrespect. :)

    Amarra software? I'm a software engineer, one of my products is PartyDJ, a music reproduction program. Amarra is...
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    Hey hey hey, I'm perfectly happy with Arrays! I...

    Hey hey hey, I'm perfectly happy with Arrays! I listened to Ravel Ultima2's and went "pfft, give me back my Arrays."

    There is no negativity, I wrote it as it was.

    They do vibrate (more than...
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    Feeding 98W RMS into Arrays is a high volume...

    Feeding 98W RMS into Arrays is a high volume application?

    I beg to differ, 98W RMS into a 89db/1w/1m with a 200+W RMS woofer should not be that much of a big deal.

    I think we have this thread...
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    Maybe because the sole fact that an amplifier has...

    Maybe because the sole fact that an amplifier has 500W RMS does not mean I have to use all 500W RMS. ;)
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    You have DYI Arrays or the ones from the JBL?...

    You have DYI Arrays or the ones from the JBL? Maybe it's in the way they are connected to the bass enclosure?

    The top part of the enclosure is covered with sonoglass and as Widget described, they...
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    That's the road I took too. JBL S38II in one...

    That's the road I took too. JBL S38II in one dormitory, Klipsch B-3 in another, JBL S312II in my office, Array 1400 in living. It's nice to be able to say "hm, what would Klipsches do with this?"
    ...
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    Yamaha P5000S has 500W RMS per channel. It...

    Yamaha P5000S has 500W RMS per channel.

    It seems that all Arrays vibrate. Can you hear it is a different question.
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    As richluvsound said, better the loudspeaker,...

    As richluvsound said, better the loudspeaker, less music we can enjoy.

    Hm, that doesn't seem right, does it? :blink: :D

    That's the context I mentioned JBL S312II's in. With them, all the music...
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    1) Yes -> Cambridge Audio 840C 2.1V output ...

    1) Yes -> Cambridge Audio 840C 2.1V output directly into input sensitivity 6dBu. Nothing to smear the sound between the source and the amplifier. RCA and XLR outputs sound the same.

    2) That's...
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    I suggest you not to look inside the speakers....

    I suggest you not to look inside the speakers. The way they "threw" the damping material into my JBL S38II was really lame. Half of it not even glued, hanging... :crying:
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    The front baffle is 1m from the back wall. If I...

    The front baffle is 1m from the back wall. If I move them more into the room, there will be no space left for casual dancing! :D

    I'll probably open one of the speakers and take pictures of the...
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    I am playing with valves too, at this point. ...

    I am playing with valves too, at this point.

    http://www.issuebroker.com/tektron_1.jpg

    http://www.issuebroker.com/tektron_2.jpg

    http://www.issuebroker.com/tektron_5.jpg

    Yamaha P5000S...
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    We measured Klipsch RF-83 frequency response at...

    We measured Klipsch RF-83 frequency response at the place I'm sitting at and there were no big dips or hills in it.

    One of these days I should measure the Arrays.

    No amp clipping with 500W RMS...
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    That's exactly how I would describe Array 1400...

    That's exactly how I would describe Array 1400 sound! The excessive "sssss" sounds!

    The Klipsch RF-83 sounds mellow, compared to Array's.

    :dont-know:

    http://www.issuebroker.com/k5.jpg
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    Which model of Crest did you use? How much...

    Which model of Crest did you use? How much attenuation did you select on the dials? What was the input V?

    Using a pro amp with -dB dials makes it easy to know exactly how much W you are sending...
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    Interesting. So what's cutting our ears might not...

    Interesting. So what's cutting our ears might not be the 14Khz+ but the 6-10Khz range.

    Compared to Array 1400, Klipsch RF83 sounded dull and attenuated in high frequencies.
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    I think you're onto something. That makes perfect...

    I think you're onto something. That makes perfect sense.

    Klipsch RF-83 probably did roll-off a bit over 16Khz which made their horns more listenable at high levels.

    A bit of EQ at the top...
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    How many W RMS did you feed them with? I am...

    How many W RMS did you feed them with? I am really interested in knowing that information, it puts things into perspective.

    If you used 30-40W RMS we are not talking about the same thing.

    On...
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    Who called GT an idiot? I certainly did not. ...

    Who called GT an idiot? I certainly did not.

    The way Arrays portray music, for example the soundtrack of Conan the barbarian is nothing short of AWESOME.

    I can hear every single instrument,...
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    Hey hey, my hearing is just fine I measure it...

    Hey hey, my hearing is just fine I measure it frecuently. It's a figure of speach "to scream into my ear" :)
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