A simple question but is it a compex answer????
Hi.....
Well I've only been here for about a week, so I'm sorry if this has been discussed to death before.
In late 70's / early 80's I was spellbound by the sound of JBL home speakers; I owned some L50's and then L100T's (which I still own!) and also by Pro speakers in stage situations as I mixed a band.
When I sat the final pre-buy listen test for the L100Ts they also had a pair of dual 15" 'lots-a-other drivers' studio monitors (I have no idea of model so long ago) that BLEW_ME_AWAY but being a uni student at the time the L100T's suited the budget.
Now over the years I have listened to the various home range of speakers, planning an upgrade to my 100Ts, but NOTHING really notibably excited me. (Of course I am in Australia so we may not have had complete offerings.) In every other technological area over a period of some 20 years the improvements have been 10 fold / 100 fold. So why to my ears have home series gone backwards??????
Back then I had a home PC, home made Motorola 6809 CPU, 1k RAM, dual 700K floppies, and a 600 Baud tape. Now dual PIII 1.4G processor, 3x 15k RPM ultra 160 32G drives with hardware RAID controller, 1 G RAM. So why can't I just go buy a pair of JBL L10000000000000000t speakers that make my current ones sound like a pair of Bose 501's (with the internal light globes blown), submerged in a block of concrete????
Also the professional series could not have progressed any quantum leaps of magnitude of improvemnt as there would not be this following trying to capture that vintage sound.
:confused: Some questions that I ponder:
Is the older sound more 'real' or is it just something we heard in our youth and wish to keep?
Was their a real change in the philosophy/ideals of JBL to produce a 'different' sound. I question that it could be market driven; has the human ear evolved to seek a different sound in some 20 years?
If there exists a subculture who like this older sound but it is not so large as to warrent any manufacturer making systems to WOW us then are we just 'odd'.
Surely an aural presentation that we consider to be shear excellence must be that... we have heard 'real' sounds, real vocals, real orchestras, and a speaker system that can reproduce it to within a whisker of reality must be still be marketable???
:D << FLAME retardent suite on, expecting some polarised replies >>
cheers, Jarrod
Re: A simple question but is it a compex answer????
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Originally posted by jarrods
:confused: Some questions that I ponder:
Is the older sound more 'real' or is it just something we heard in our youth and wish to keep?
Was their a real change in the philosophy/ideals of JBL to produce a 'different' sound. I question that it could be market driven; has the human ear evolved to seek a different sound in some 20 years?
If there exists a subculture who like this older sound but it is not so large as to warrent any manufacturer making systems to WOW us then are we just 'odd'.
Surely an aural presentation that we consider to be shear excellence must be that... we have heard 'real' sounds, real vocals, real orchestras, and a speaker system that can reproduce it to within a whisker of reality must be still be marketable???
:D << FLAME retardent suite on, expecting some polarised replies >>
cheers, Jarrod
Ahh that classic JBL sound! There are some things about the JBLs of the 50's and 60's that were and are truly special. There are some things about the JBLs of the 70's that were and are truly special. There are some things about the JBLs of the 80's that were and are truly special. But then again there is also a hell of a lot of nostalgia too! Some people feel that only ____ decade was the true JBL. Since JBL was such a dominant force during the 70's it is no wonder that there are so many JBL fans of that era and of the 43XX monitors that dominated that era.
A real change in JBL? Maybe yes, maybe no. They see a real market for "true JBL" type speakers in the HT realm and have produced some incredible Synthesis systems. They have designed one "true JBL" Project series after another. Admittedly they have been half hearted in the domestic marketing of these systems. They have seen an opportunity in Cinema systems with the death of Altec and have made huge improvements in that area. They have continually improved concert sound systems. Today when you go to a live show the clarity and level of distortion are orders of magnitude better than during the early 70's.
Yes, we are just 'odd'. Most people could give a damn about this stuff. For us to spend inordinate amounts of time and resources toward this hobby proves how odd we are.
Real.... well I have never heard a stereo in a home that sounded like being in a symphony hall. I have heard some that I liked better while playing certain recordings, but I still wouldn't call it real. Really well recorded music played through a high quality system is dynamic, raise the hair on the back of your neck exciting, but it isn't "real".
Then there is the perception and preference of the listener. Some think a Lowther sounds the most real, others a field coil Jensen, or an Altec A7, or a Wilson Grand Slamm, or a JBL 4345! We are all turned on by different types of sounds. There are probably three or four distinct flavors among this tiny forum.... How do you design "The best speaker in the world" when you really can't get a consensus. I guess that is the beauty of DIY. With some knowledge and a bit of tinkering, you can build what YOU think the speaker should sound like.
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