Just saw a sales flyer for the new release of the 4365 monitor. Thought I'd pass it on. I guess JBL is still in the market. Price is near $10K per pair.
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Just saw a sales flyer for the new release of the 4365 monitor. Thought I'd pass it on. I guess JBL is still in the market. Price is near $10K per pair.
10k
I really hope sow :)
This speaker seems to be the root cause of all problems in the world, if to beleive the thread that had to be closed :)
Let's continue here for us interested in the 4365. I am still waiting on my pair to arrive.
Here we go again....
Please, do not mess up this thread as well. Let's stick to 4365 related discussion here.
Love the way they look - it'd really be tempting if I could hear a pair somewhere in the US -
that $10k price isn't bad for a new pair of studio monitors!
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...1&d=1285425794
I thought list price was just over $10k USD ... each. :dont-know:
M2 gets better looking every day or a VTX and saw it in half. Oh you also get a spare D2 if youdo this. :crying:
4365 for sale in Norway. USD 15 000.00 a pair.
Link
Not mine.
Those trim pots are so cute, plus or minus 0.5 dB :p
As I probably said elsewhere, to me, this is what a speaker should look like. I was probably influenced by the Altec 19.
Ya think? To me the main design statement of the Model 19 is the two box design... which I've always liked. I thought the Model 19 was derivative of the Belle Klipsch... which I've always had a soft spot for as well.
As for the 4365, I have a bias against the entire line of "monitor styled" consumer speakers. Not sure why, I've appreciated the reto movement in auto design, but for the JBLs they just seem like posers. I realize I am being overly harsh on them, but they just don't float my boat.
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Agreed.They are posers in the sense that Consumer doesn't hold a candle to Pro. I don't even think anyone actually manages Consumer, I think it's been on auto-pilot for about ten or twelve years. Hopefully it will hit an iceberg sooner rather than later and sink into fifteen thousand feet of frigid water.
The components themselves though are still quite desirable.
Well, a hearty *whew* and congrats to that at least...Quote:
I finally received two pair of 1501Fe's
Thanks for sharing
Two absurdely large packages just entered my livingroom.
I don't think one can use MAi5000HD amp to run with S4700. Maybe one can, if you remove the crossover in the bass unit. In the manual it says 300Watts RMS but no info how much power in bi-amp mode. In the M2 there is no crossover.
The limit how much power one can use in the S4700 is due to the crossover. I think the crossover will destroy first then the transducer if MAi5000HD is used.
That's how I see it.
Off course you can go active and bi-amp the S4700.
About the MAi5000HD on can use the LevelMax limiter.
Some readings.....
http://www.crownaudio.com/media/stor...eadme File.pdf
bubbleboy, wakie wakie :) post us some picsQuote:
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by bubbleboy76 http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...post-right.png
Two absurdely large packages just entered my livingroom.
Come on guys, patience is a virtue!
I have been away from home this weekend. Will post some pics later this week.
The sound has changed very much from friday to sunday.
Santa came early this year.
I do miss the blue JBL monitor colour, otherwise they look kind of like the 4345 which is fine by me :)Quote:
JBL's cabinets sure aren't what they used to be ;)
/Mostly
I have plans to make my 4365 white using plastic film, and white grille cloth.
I have done it to speakers before with good result. Makes then dissapear a bit on the white walls.
Pictures will come when it is done.
Behind the green blanket stands my 4429 center. It sounds crazy good!
I will make a frame with white speaker grille cloth in front of it. Fastened with magnets on the bench.
Yes, the S4700s also sounded both thin and veiled at the same time new out of the box. A bit disappointing to me at the time.
What happens is that the midrange and treble opens up to a large degree, while the bass becomes full and powerful.
So, the sound becomes more dynamic and transparent.
It took a long time to break these in. They're now 6 months old. I'd say they're still breaking in, but I might be wrong on that.
They are mechanical devices.
At the other end of the bell curve they will sound awful too. :rotfl:
Fortunately JBL loudspeakers are built like a fine musical instrument, and all that garbage :blah: :blah: :blah:, so you'll be long gone when they reach the end of their life cycle. Your great grandchildren will say "What in hell's half acre did great grandpa see in these things!" :screwy:
Because you are whineing like babies, you get this state-of-the-art iPhone pic in severe backlight.
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nice view :)
Isn't there supposed to be like ten feet of snow and ABBA in the background there?
Some more pics.
DIY bridged Hypex nCore monoblocks attached with velcro on the backside of the speakers.
Preamp/processor/dac is the Oppo BDP-105.
To come are very short DIY speaker-cables in pure silver, directly wired without connectors.
If you are going to use this setup for HT, what will be the speakers for the surround channels and what sub will you use?Quote:
Behind the green blanket stands my 4429 center. It sounds crazy good!
I will make a frame with white speaker grille cloth in front of it. Fastened with magnets on the bench.
/Mostly
Im one step ahead of you :) just bought a house with a nice room at about 25m2 in the basement. Planning on a real overkill horn HT with all JBL components. I cant move in until after this summer thought and all of the basement is demolished because of water damage so I will have a few things to take care of before I can start building the HT, but the planning is going on in my head 24/7.Quote:
My long-term plan is to buy a house with a dedicated HT-room, and the dream is then to have another 4365 as center (behind the screen), and use 4429:s as surrounds.
Maybe your future surround channels?
http://www.hifimagasinet.com/annonsD...annonsID=81010
/Mostly
I have a few W1500H that Iīll probably be using but Im not sure yet, have some other stuff aswell. The subs and the 80Hz-800Hz region in the surrounds is the only things that wont be hornloaded. Like I said, a bit overkill but loads of fun :)Quote:
Those SUB1500-elements are hard to beat in my experience
/Mostly
El Estocolmo!
Im going to build 8 closed cabinets with W1500H to "hopefully" complete my horn system under 100Hz. If I donīt like it I will build some hornloaded 2227 and if I like that, I will have some W1500H lying around.
/Mostly
The 4429-center is now hidden behind white speaker-cloth.
The signalcables will be hidden, do not worry about that.
I will test with one more layer of cloth (to make it look white), and see how much it degrades the sound. The 4429 has tone control, so maybe I can higher the HF a bit to compensate, like they do in cinemas.
Had my 4365s for 3 months now. Just last week the bass really really came alive. Now they are sounding freaking amazing, I must say. Very happy with them, I think they are here for life (I have said that before though...). The sound is so natural and "live".
To me, the bass is better now with the 4365s, than with single subs of TiK and 1500 array that I have had before. That is not a bad company to beat!
You guys who do not beleive in long breakin-time for this Kind of JBL-speakers, sorry you are just plain wrong. They sounded like a laptop out-of-the-box :) They seem to need to play REALLY loud to loosen up, that is what I did last week.
Now, I have 5 new blu-ray concerts to enjoy this weekend, love it! It is like being there.
Cool! I believe the break in time too. I'm having the same experience with the S4700s. They sounded terrible to me at first as well. My complaints about them are all over the internet! lol. Anyway, after about 10 months of constant playing, it's finally beginning to sound good.
How do you drive the 4365 ?MF, tubes ...Lucky man
Oppo BDP-105 source/preamp
Dodd Balanced Tube buffer
5m cheap XLR-cables
Hypex nCore bridged class-D monoblocks (1,2Kw in 4ohm)
20cm cheap speaker cables, thick copper.
JBL 4365 fronts
JBL 4429 center
Will experient with other cables later on, just for the fun of it.
Martin, please! Help us, translate!
I don't have a 2216Nd, but I do have a 1501Fe and can say it's a very capable driver.
Nd is the future and the 2216Nd will be the next generation of drivers, but for this old fossil I like the heavy cast frame ceramic driver!
I think with what is available that everyone will be happy. DSP will perform the necessary corrections for the future.
Ron
What issue is this? Allegedly they are all available via download in multiple languages.
The editor of STEREO SOUND said, he compared S4700 with 4365 in same room with same gear:Accuphase C3800+P6100 or TAD MA2500 and TECHNICAL BRAIN TBC-Zero/EX+TBP-Zero/EX
Two systems are same design,they are both extensive two way systems,but the fineness,stability and the headroom of the sound are different,4365 is very like S9900,with 4' horn characteristic,if you like 4' horn ,you will not miss him.it is worth 1.7 times than S4700,consider S9900 is 2.3 times than 4365,the 4365 has little different with S9900.
In one word,4365 and S4700 are not in the same level.he will chose 4365.
Not like 4313B said,S4700 is better than 4365:crying::D