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Region 2 DVD
Chapter 1 to 2
Time 0 minutes 0 seconds to 4 minutes 30 seconds
Opening titles is rather impressive in discrete six-track Dolby stereo digital. There’s plenty of low end rumbling at different intervals over various channels.
That’s more like independent frequency waterfalls!
Region 2 DVD
Chapter 2
Time 8 minutes 27 seconds to 8 minutes 33 seconds
Signal was taken directly from each RCA phone one-at-time real easy to do. AVR was set at 0db with all LCRS set at 0db expect for the Richard King LFE.1 too damn loud! I trimmed the LFE.1 TRACK down -10db as that was too high, its got Richard King War of The Worlds 2005 written all over it that amounts to one thing! A load of white noise distortion, not that it was distorting.
Region 2 DVD
Chapter 17
Time 63 minutes 05 seconds to 63 minutes 12 seconds
This was quite an impressive moment thou it it’s only brief and funny when MARONI yells while falling backwards down into the road below him. Agghhhh!
The crunch is around 40Hz to 60Hz near the top of the graph.
Brought Lethal Weapon 4 (1998) ASDA this morning at £4.00 “that’s ASDA price”!
Scope 2.35:1
Colour
Six-track Dolby stereo digital
Running time 121 minutes
Now I have that I have all, four Lethal Weapons including a few special not so editions more on that later its in the sound near towards the end of Lethal Weapon 2 it seemed like a strange BBFC censor on the rapid killing of one of the scum bag African drug dealers.
Can’t really remember much from this one, it did kinder suck especially on VHS too noisy in the picture and sound, so this would be treat in all fairness.
Brought Dead Calm (1989) from ASDA this morning at £4.00 “that’s ASDA price”!
Scope 2.35:1
Colour
Dolby stereo 4:2:4
Running time 93 minutes
Haven’t seen this since 1990 on VHS and before then at the cinema in Dolby stereo should sound great on the JBL with lower lows and higher highs.
I liked the look of colour the photography and the scope anamorphic lenses to give it openness on the ocean.
A & B TITANIC Deluxe Edition TITANIC First Edition.
AVR
Kenwood KRF-X9050D THX select
All waterfalls where connected directly to each RCA phone one at time.
All outputs where set at 0db
Fader 0db
TITANIC
Six-track Dolby stereo digital
Region 2 DVD first edition
Chapter 7
Time 28 minutes 52 seconds to 32 minutes 27 seconds
TITANIC
Six-track Dolby stereo digital
Region 2 DVD special edition
Chapter 12
Time 28 minutes 25 seconds to 32 minutes 00 seconds
Khan’s sub bass, attack on the U.S.S. Enterprise region 2 DVD priceless.
Khan’s attack on the U.S.S. Enterprise with JBL priceless.
Six-track Dolby stereo
Scope 2.35:1
Colour
Running time 111 minutes 41 seconds
Chapter 8
Time 47 minutes 22 seconds to 50 minutes 17 seconds
AVR
Kenwood KRF-X9050D THX select
All signals where captured independently one at time, connected directly to the AVR RCA phone.
All outputs set at 0db
Fader 0db
Scope 2.35:1
Colour
Running time 84 minutes 32 seconds
Dolby digital 5.1
Chapter 15
Time 69 minutes 31 seconds to 70 minutes 58 seconds
- I've really grown to enjoy this thread Ashley ( spelling ? ) .
- I hardly ever watch movies / but after studying all your detailed sonograms of low frequency response for various movies / I do get an idea of whether I need to own subwoofers that cut-off at 30 hz or 20 hz ( based on my own movie preferences ) .
>< Thanks !
btw ; what movie are you profiling in posts 430 through 436 .
Yeah I know the spelling is terrible, but I do try.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl K
Oh, that one that would be, Pulse.
Would you, believe I’ve read somewhere that some owners test their subs bass speakers out with this film, to see if can handle the lows.:wtf:
A frequency sweep would suffice. :)
Oh, I like this trailer it’s got an operatic feeling to it. It’s cut nicely with the images and sound, is warp factor 10.
It rumbled all over my body, feeling was good sensation in the chest with JBL vibrated the sofa a good one.
Waterfall taken directly from the sub bass output in sw-re-mix mode as this was only playing in Dolby stereo.
I can’t wait to hear it in six-track Dolby stereo digital at the Empire Leicester Square, front and centre row. I want the image to fill in my field of view and get bass and sub bass deeply rolling over me, with kick slam and deep depth, as well as crystal clear transparent highs, over the largest THX screen in the UK!
I think it’s starting to cut well now with new trailer and its still only teasing us fans. I didn’t expect this would happen and only 60 days and counting.
Allanvh5150
I’ve looked at chapter 3 which is quite punchy on the opening during the assassination attempt on the senator.
I’ll fish though the LFE.1 folder I’m sure I’ve done frequency waterfall of the THX introduction from this DVD last year?
Chapter 3
Time 1 minute 45 seconds to 3 minutes 30 seconds
20th Century Fox introduction to DIE HARD 4.0, why don’t they just call it “DIE HARD 5.1” LOL
This is neat one you’d think it would play out a normal then suddenly towards the end of the Fox fanfare it starts to crackle and breakdown with an almightily low end that is supported over LCR not much on the spit-surrounds at the present time. The fronts are supported by Earth trembling LFE.1 as low end fades off.
This feels good it’s like being at the Empire Leicester Square screen 1, when the (Regular 1) science guy gets zapped by the phaser!
Chapter 10
Time 67 minutes 06 seconds to 69 minutes 00 seconds
No LFE.1 track present on the scene its carried mostly over LCR and mildly on the surrounds.
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Region 2 DVD
Dolby 5.1
W/S 1.78:1
Chapter 14
Time 74 minutes 53 seconds to 76 minutes 56 seconds
The helicopter assault at the end had some wicked lows gradually building up in layers to final deep, low note tone that was pushing hard on theLFE.1 track in the room its airflow from the JBL 4645 air duct port was blowing over me, wow.
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Closing dialogue chapter 15 has some neat smooth depth Eltax A12-R sub bass extension on centre low end output. When Scully asks Mulder what he’s thinking. I’m thinking…I’m a guilty man. I failed in every respect. I deserve the harshest punishment for my crimes.
“December 22nd 2012 the date of the final alien invasion”
Now that would be fitting time for another X-Files film, we need another alien conspiracy flick not one that doesn’t have any explosions or guns being fired.
Now since I don’t have any powers over parametric EQ below 20Hz and that most of the range from 20Hz to 80Hz is within a ±2db over the seating area JBL 4645 and Eltax A12-R.
Trailer for this tense trailer based on true story, the plot to assassinate Hitler.
Depth of the LFE.1 track thundered deeply uniformly with few chest pounders/thumpers and sofa rumbles.
Yeah this would be awesome on DVD.
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Seems like the only country doing independent frequency waterfalls is the best country in the World, Bournemouth, United Kingdom! Yes I’m mad pissed off, :biting: of you ALL! This film fails to impress me on the first
1 minute 54 seconds, you’d be damn lucky to get anymore independent frequency waterfalls, don’t ask for requests do them yourself! Sigh, what a load of RUBBISH! :barf:
Six-track Dolby stereo digital
Region 2
Chapter 1
Time 1 minute 09 seconds to 1 minute 54 seconds
Wow is that it, my JBL 4645 can handle lows and loudness, now then!
That’s it I’m not doing requests you’d have to do your own independent frequency waterfalls! I’ll post another one when I can be asked too. As fo now I’m not playing anymore because I can’t stand Jack Black he gets up
my nose!
I can just about tolerate The Lion King today and I’ve seen it IMAX sigh!
WOW it was so awesome the LFE.1 track was I had to use large text, NOT! It was waste of my time, a waste of £7.00 pounds and I want to swap it for Leviathan 1989!
This one plays flipping loud and low enough to forget about Kentucky Fried Panda. I strongly prescribe a frequency sweep over KFP, simple but effective.
The CD disc was supplied with the dts millennium 2.4.6 decoder it also has assorted use of music that is brilliantly punchy in dynamics and spectral clarity that sparkles with remarkable transparency.
Track 16 has steady slow frequency that runs from 20Hz to 160Hz I’ve purposely kept the graph at 0 to 120Hz.
As good ring to it doesn’t it JAWS bites low. The first one really bites down low; I’ll get around to that one later. Its also terrific sequel (1978) to the record breaking first JAWS (1974) that scared me out of my mind, that was the intent, must have saw the first one twice, the sequel only once in the cinema.
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Monaural with sub bass extension JBL 4645
Bruce the shark attacks ski-boater gobbles her up and then drops in for quick crispy barbeque! :D
Chapter 4
Time 19 minutes 12 seconds to 21 minutes 52 seconds
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Bruce the shark attacks boaters and has good ole gobble! :D
Chapter 15
Time 90 minutes 06 seconds to 90 minutes 43 seconds
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Final Kung Fu battle “Skadoosh”
Chapter 21
Time 75 minutes 19 seconds to 76 minutes 46 seconds
On the level input FBQ2496 channel A that is used for the LFE.1 track “Skadoosh” peaks at -6db
Impressive but I’m sure I’ve seen this type of effect before. The slam in the tiger falling from the sky after bouncing off the panda’s fat bubbly tummy was funny.
AVR Kenwood KRF-X9050D THX select was at 0db during the frequency spectrum tests.
JBL 4645 didn’t sweat it in fact I was the only sweating “Skadoosh” KABOOM! :bouncy:
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Chapter 31
Time 100 minutes 32 seconds to 101 minutes 51 seconds
McClaine kicks a pressure valve that sends cold air in Rand’s face. Loosing grip Rand falls into the what ever the hell that was WHOA! McClaine chuckles “Oh, no” as Rand is diced up into 52 pieces!
That grinding effect had a brutal grunt on the centre channel low end, LFE.1 had deep low end kinder ambiance feel of the motor noise that was filling the freezer like room. Gunshots had few pulse kicks, same with centre on a few scenes.
I liked this scene so much I changed the settings on Spectrumlab and increased the centre and LFE.1 to +10db for a more Rand bloody raspberry ripple waterfall effect! :bouncy: Yuck,:D “Oh no” that’s messy.
I did a brief rambling on youtube about this film it also stars my cat Sooty. :D there is strong use of language, so if your Mormon cover your ears now. :D
Kentucky Fried Panda spectrumlab frequency response
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWE2m1vUWPo
My obsession with the Star Trek originals started around Sunday October 8th 1989 11am in the morning! Now then, I have rock steady memory when it comes to decent sound playback at the EMPIRE, 20 years is long time, now then.
I’d like to start with Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan as this was chest pounding over Star Trek the Motion Picture which only played in 35mm Dolby stereo, still mighty impressive by the original 13KW JBL THX sound system!
Star Trek II was 70mm Dolby stereo, never had I felt a better presentation over the many other different cinemas over the years, this topped them all and beyond.
Since someone else was concerned about KFP Kentucky Fried Panda chapter 21, Skadoosh I’ve gone though each frequency sine wave to plot where I can feel the pressure of frequency to see what trade offs I have to deal with.
The Wrath of Khan, Khann, Khann, Khann, where “Joachim pushes the tactical or what ever that prop was into the wall with nice kick at the EMPIRE Leicester Square and that appears to be subtle sound effect”.
In the home its somewhat different its there just not played higher enough or other frequencies are forcing me to turn it down. So I’ll start with fresh page and go over (what can be felt and what can’t be felt) iron out the frequency so to speak.
I’ve plotted the action sequence somewhere within 140Hz to 180Hz now since the this is centre channel only, there is no need for sub bass as this would have been reproduced by the original JBL 4675-A THX stage channels.
I didn’t see this going anywhere on the sub bass extension that I use for LCRS JBL control 5 control 1 surrounds, but I’ll sure try the impossible to nail this one down!
Okay let’s have some plain ole good fun, each room is different each and everyone has different speakers some have mismatched LCR others don’t.
Okay strong use of colourful 18 lanauange on this video as I get stressed out big time, so if your Mormon cover your ears now! Oh, camera work is dodgy, just like Cloverfield so you want no the difference. LOL :D Enjoy.
Star Trek II Spectrumlab frequency response in three spots!
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Ashley,
I'm just curious, and mean no disrespect by this question, but do you ever just watch movies without analyzing the sound continuously while viewing? Do you enjoy the experience more by monitoring the technicalities throughout the process?
Also, do you frequently use your system for music only? If so, do you revert to pure stereo or the entire multi-channel system? How is the sound?
P.S., your commentary on your YouTube videos is priceless! "Who needs f#$%&ing Kung Fu Panda???" lol
P.P.S., I'm not a "cat person" but Sooty is adorable :)
Best,
- Mike
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Originally Posted by JBL 4645
mikeQuote:
Originally Posted by MikeBrewster77
I didn’t have this technology around the time I was obsessed with JBL at the EMPIRE, so it seems logical now to analyzer what I might be missing on the soundtrack.
I can do music I could do Madonna “Live to Tell” without the Bose factor getting in the way. This is JBL here LOL, LOL.
I would swap Kung Fu Panda today for Leviathan (1989) I mean seriously AVS forums was making a huge big deal out film. Chapter 21 wow is that it, 1 second whoosh of random frequency sweep on all bands with few EQ peaks! :snore:
What’s next Valkyrie, well I’ve done waterfall on the trailer and that was wicked enough on the LFE.1 track! Maybe I’ll do The Day the Earth Stood Still, next month or month after not really itching to buy this on the first week; I want to get that video projector so I’ll put DVD titles to one side for a few months.
Yes my cat is sweet and bugger sometimes, can’t train them to stop biting. Natural instinct be buggered, I doubt he know what real mouse is, they basically attack anything that moves. He goes for my toes sticking out the end of the bed and its unpleasant, jabbing his claws into my toes and nibbling on them.
Yes Sooty is into feet!:D
Anyway going to do some more, experimentations I see colours clearly with spectrumlab yes I know it looks like Predator-heat-vision LOL.
I’ll do Madonna :smsex:sometime later in the day, too bad I can’t get stereo on youtube, might be the audio input/sound-card? I’ll just buy cheap new one at later time,; monaural isn’t too bad thou stereo would be bonus.
It is love !!Quote:
Originally Posted by JBL 4645
But do you have something like a water pistol for education against unwanted behavior? Cats do not like to be "water shot"! And they do remember this.
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Peter
:blink: I’m not going to start squatting water around the flat, there are electrical items everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoerninger
I’ll just use the laser beam to drive him around in circles.:D
Well, if you're going to *do* Madonna (and thankfully on JBL's and not Bose ;)) I'll make a few recommendations:
The track "You'll See" is a very nice showing by her, and has an exceptional bass characteristic that should provide some fun for your analysis. Some of the more recent dance mixes are also pretty cool: "Give it 2 Me (Ljorich Club Mix)" comes to mind as having a great, driving bass line. The older stuff by her unfortunately didn't capture the dynamic range of the newer stuff.
Also, check out this link - it might help nip Sooty's "fetish" in the bud :p:
http://cats.about.com/cs/behaviorali...bite_scrat.htm
Best,
- Mike
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Originally Posted by JBL 4645
I may be turning senile, but I remember "Live To Tell" being the entire incidental music (not the entire soundtrack) of the brilliant film At Close Range. It started with one or two notes and was progressively enlarged as the film moved along. The melody was completed at the end and I think she sang the song over the credits? It is the one song of Madonna's that I like a lot, and credit goes to her as she co-wrote it, too. She sang it with subtlety and taste, two words I do not usually think of when Madonna comes up.
Ashley, I have lots of cats (three are black). Believe me, it is worth it getting abused by their love, and that is exactly what it is. Sooty is a keeper. Nice if you can break him of it, though. I had one cat who would wake me up in the morning by sinking a claw into my lip. He did it until the day he died, but at least not on most days. I would have taken a toe nibble over that, believe me!
If nothing else works, you could put Bitter Apple on your toes at night. Cats hate the taste, so at least he won't bite them.
Clark
Clark,
Have you ever checked out her version of "I Want You" featuring Massive Attack? I'm not a huge Madonna fan, but I would say that it aligns with the [rare] subtlety and taste you describe as being captured on "Live to Tell." Of all her material across many decades that song is likely my favorite, and one of the "gems" I reference when people summarily dismiss her (which I've been known to do myself...)
Best,
- Mike
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Originally Posted by Ducatista47
Madonna on JBL control 5 JBL 4645 sub bass
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Just having a little, play with :smsex:Madonna, :smsex:but not in the way your thinking. Due to where the ECM8000 is placed I noticed a minor null dip in the frequency response not a big deal to sort.
I’m going to do Madonna again it looked like the focus on the webcam was off a bit I’ll refocus and I was about to do pink noise “the wall” LOL I prefer doing Madonna on JBL. :smsex:
Looks like there is RAT on youtube called WMG who rated my video only minutes after been put on, okay so sodden what if I’m playing Madonna. I’ll find this RAT and I’ll report all there videos as copyright RAT son of bitch!:biting:
I’ll set my cat on thus youtube RAT!:biting:
Oh just found out who the RAT is on youtube WMG (Warner Music Group) well they can suck my hairy nuts!:biting::biting:
Here is an anger management video aimed at WMG (Warner Music Group)! Strong use of JBL language I repeat Strong use of JBL language so stick in the ear plugs. It also stars Sooty who was might pissed off.:biting:
WMG (Warner Music Group) are bleep! Bleep! Bleep!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2jBml2ONnk&feature=channel_page
Hint: If you want the video to stay up on YouTube for any length of time don't include the artist's name or track title in the video title or description. I'm fairly certain most major record labels do key words searches of sites like YouTube to stop any actual or presumed infringement (though I personlly don't think playing a song for which you own the record in your own home and taping it should be considered such...)
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That is precisely what I’m going to is title it differently, then Warner can go an kiss my cats backside.:D There are hundreds if not thousands fanged to the teeth with WMG on youtube. I’ve cooled down a bit now but was braking mad a few hours ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeBrewster77
I wonder if WMG can tell from looking at frequency waterfall that its Madonna?:D
Part of Star Trek fortnightly original that was released several years ago, with colourful detailed magazine.
This season 1 Balance of Terror. Enterprise receives an emergency call to outpost 4 pulverized by powerful plasma attack from the Romulans who stalk outposts along the Neutral Zone. Enterprise engages with the enemy in cat and mouse hunt.
Airdate 15th December 1966
Released 2007
Region 2
Colour
4:3
Dolby digital 5.1 mix
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Chapter 2
Time 10 minutes 42 seconds to 10 minutes 53 seconds
Chapter 5
Time 25 minutes 27 seconds to 25 minutes 31 seconds
Chapter 5
Time 26 minutes 29 seconds to 26 minutes 56 seconds
NTSC laserdisc to DVD-RW
Time 34 minutes 13 seconds to 37 minutes 42 seconds
Enterprise laving the dry-dock accompanied by Jerry Goldsmith score has a surprisingly good low end support played over sw-re-mix on the Kenwood KRF-X9050D THX select and via the JBL 4645.
It was as if I was getting flashbacks from Sunday, October 8th 1989 when it played in THX at the EMPIRE Leicester Square, screen 1 London, on the Star Trek marathon day.
Sub bass extension was tightly controlled in the lows, 50Hz region vibrated the sofa parts of the floor, boom has been virtually eliminated with FBQ2496.
Screen captures are from special NOT edition from original scenes and not the, yuck version of the edited version 2002 edition.