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Nightbrace
11-18-2005, 06:55 PM
http://www.oldhifi.com/jblln3.jpg (http://www.oldhifi.com/jblln3.jpg)

Here is a picture of the cabinets, they currently have quality Allied drivers in them right now. I have no way of finding out what drivers were originally in them, no one seems to know anything about these cabinets, so I have to come up with the best possible drivers for these cabinets from scratch.

Tentatively I have decided to go with the LE25 tweeters and LE5-6 mids from a set of L-36's.

For woofers, I have been told to go with 12" 2202H Professional Series woofers, but it has been brought to my attention that using the 12" 2203H Professional Series woofers would be a better choice.

If neither of these drivers are suitable, what other JBL 12" driver would be an acceptable alternative to go with the tweeters and mids I am planning to use.

Or to complicate things even further for me, would there be even better tweeters and mids that will fit in these cabinets than the ones I am considering??

They are true floorstanding speakers, and the internal volume is around 2.0 Cu. Ft.

Any and all comments would be greatly appreciated as this is my first JBL "project".

Lancer
11-18-2005, 07:14 PM
Those kind of look like old JBL EN3 enclosures...

Standard complement was:
124A / 124H / 2203A / 2203H
LE5-2 / LE5H / 2105 / 2105H
077 / 2405 / 2405H
LX30

What are the outside dimensions?

Lancer
11-18-2005, 07:28 PM
These drivers are no longer serviceable with parts from JBL.
Too bad, because they were mighty fine drivers.

Nightbrace
11-18-2005, 08:29 PM
Those 2203H's look like just what I need, but where to get them??

The dimensions are 34T x 20L x 13D. They are LN3's for sure..

dblaxter
11-18-2005, 09:06 PM
hi lancer,
i wonder if you could answer a question , in previous threads it was posted that the difference in the 2203h and the 121a/h(either or) was the mass ring , i beleive i found a source of a few 2203h kits which i want to recone a butchered 121a, done with an aftermaket kit , what a crime , if i do get the kit would you sell me the proper wieght mass ring , it would be a great help,

if you or anyone else that might need a kit reads this, p.m. and i can discuss a possible package deal to maybe get a better deal , they are expensive , 300.00+ ea. :blink:

lancer also maybe you would p.m me , i believe i may owe you something, funds , favor , etc.

Lancer
11-19-2005, 04:28 AM
Those 2203H's look like just what I need, but where to get them??

The dimensions are 34T x 20L x 13D. They are LN3's for sure..They are hard to find. The 124H is the exact same driver as the 2203H, only the cosmetics are different. There are more 2203H's out there than 124H's.

Lancer
11-19-2005, 04:39 AM
hi lancer,
i wonder if you could answer a question , in previous threads it was posted that the difference in the 2203h and the 121a/h(either or) was the mass ring , i beleive i found a source of a few 2203h kits which i want to recone a butchered 121a, done with an aftermaket kit , what a crime , if i do get the kit would you sell me the proper wieght mass ring , it would be a great help,

if you or anyone else that might need a kit reads this, p.m. and i can discuss a possible package deal to maybe get a better deal , they are expensive , 300.00+ ea. :blink:

lancer also maybe you would p.m me , i believe i may owe you something, funds , favor , etc.The C8R2203 recone kit is used to build a 124A/124H/2203A/2203H driver. That driver can be built from any 121A/121H/124A/124H/2202A/2202H/2203A/2203H/2204H core. NEVER use a C8R2203 kit to build a 121A or 121H. :scold: That would be wasting a great cone kit. The C8R2203 should only be used to build a 124A/124H/2203A/2203H. A 121A or 121H can be built with the C8R121A recone kit (still available) using any 121A/121H/124A/124H/2202A/2202H/2203A/2203H/2204H core. The C8R121A recone kit differs from the C8R2203 kit in two ways.

1. The C8R121A kit contains a "100 gram" mass ring (~ 95 grams) while the C8R2203 kit contains the usual 124/2203/136/2231/2235 "50 gram" mass ring (~ 35 grams).

2. The C8R121A kit has a much stiffer spider.

Cones, surrounds, and voice coils are the same.

The C8R2203 is NLA from JBL while the C8R121A kit is still available. I believe the C8R121A recone kit is ~ $172. The C8R2203 kit is not worth $300. Rarity means absolutely nothing to me. I would buy a brand new LE14H-3 before I would put $300 into a 124 or 2203 rebuild.

Zilch
11-19-2005, 10:20 AM
If Nightbrace can't locate 2203 or 124A, what other JBL 12" woofer options might be worthy of consideration?

LE14x looks like a good fit, but that'll require enlarging the woofer cutout.

2214H, 128H, or ME120HS, possibly?

EN3 dimensions somewhat match what Nightbrace measures, so it's more like 3 cuft. than the 2 cuft he originally supposed....

edgewound
11-19-2005, 11:32 AM
The C8R2203 recone kit is used to build a 124A/124H/2203A/2203H driver. That driver can be built from any 121A/121H/124A/124H/2202A/2202H/2203A/2203H/2204H core. NEVER use a C8R2203 kit to build a 121A or 121H. :scold: That would be wasting a great cone kit. The C8R2203 should only be used to build a 124A/124H/2203A/2203H. A 121A or 121H can be built with the C8R121A recone kit (still available) using any 121A/121H/124A/124H/2202A/2202H/2203A/2203H/2204H core. The C8R121A recone kit differs from the C8R2203 kit in two ways.

1. The C8R121A kit contains a "100 gram" mass ring (~ 95 grams) while the C8R2203 kit contains the usual 124/2203/136/2231/2235 "50 gram" mass ring (~ 35 grams).

2. The C8R121A kit has a much stiffer spider.

Cones, surrounds, and voice coils are the same.

The C8R2203 is NLA from JBL while the C8R121A kit is still available. I believe the C8R121A recone kit is ~ $172. The C8R2203 kit is not worth $300. Rarity means absolutely nothing to me. I would buy a brand new LE14H-3 before I would put $300 into a 124 or 2203 rebuild.

Sir Lancer,

At first inspection, the 2203 cone kit looks virtually identical to a 2235, yet in a 12" version...is the cone thickness and voicecoil identical? I have some removed 2235 cone kits with rotted surround and cut spider. My question is...would it be feasible to cut down the 2235 cone to 2203 12" diameter and install the correct size foam surround and replace the spider to make a 2203 from a correct core? I know...it's not a complete factory kit...but it could still make a decent imitation if assembled with care. I have an old 121H kit removed from a recone that I could use to make a template to cut down the old 2235 cone with a router and template bit. This could lead to new life for 2203's from recycled 2231/5 cone/coil assemblies....at a reasonable cost.

Thanks for your input.:)

dblaxter
11-19-2005, 01:16 PM
hi lancer ,
i have tried a few places to get the kit or of send it out to be reconed , i get the same answer , its not available , but if you have the source or can tell me where to send it , or send it to you , etc , it would be great , and thanks for all the info ,
some same that the 121a has its limits but for me it will work , my house is not huge so ....
thank you once again ,p,ease let me know

Nightbrace
11-19-2005, 01:16 PM
How do you guys feel about my tweeter and midrange selections?? I am trying to think BANG for the BUCK here. I have maybe another $200-$300 to spend on both woofers assuming I can get these drivers for around $150 for all 4 of them. Would it be considered "okay" to get AlNiCo woofers to go with the LE25's and LE5-6's? Given my price restriction, are the 2203H woofers even an option??

Alex Lancaster
11-19-2005, 01:20 PM
:) With the mids and tweets You are planning on, why not L100 or L166 woofers?, I think the 2203īs are overkill.

Nightbrace
11-19-2005, 01:20 PM
They are probably closest to 2.5 than anything as far as internal volume goes. I was guessing at 2.0, but thats only because thats what the owner of them now claimed them to be. For all I know he may be right, as the wood is very thick.

Nightbrace
11-19-2005, 01:37 PM
well then what tweets and mids would go well with the 2003H's? Or for that matter what drivers would work BEST in these cabinets??? Thats really what I am after, I do not have any drivers yet, I am merely making a couple suggestions based on my great results with the Decade 36's I have./

For midranges I personally like the LE5-6, 8's, 10's and 12's best. They sound identical to me. Am I correct in this assumption?? I was amazed to see how close the specs are, my ears must be getting really good :). And are there any mids that will exceed the sound quality produced by these drivers??

I was advised not to go with the LE5-2 drivers compared to the LE5-6's-12's, is there any truth to that. I have not directly heard the LE5-2's in a comaparison with the 6-12's. The efficiency is higher, but what makes the difference, the AlNiCo magent compared to ferritte?

Nightbrace
11-19-2005, 02:19 PM
What about the 104H-2 mids?? How will these compare?L 104H-2

Zilch
11-20-2005, 03:58 PM
Scroll to bottom for 1980 EN3 recommended loads:

http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/jbl/catalogs/1980-pro/page13.jpg

Nightbrace
11-21-2005, 06:21 PM
yeah, but those just have low frequency, high frequency, and ultra-high freqency drivers as recommendations. I am looking for a woofer, mid, tweeter combination.

grumpy
11-21-2005, 07:20 PM
yeah, but those just have low frequency, high frequency, and ultra-high freqency drivers as recommendations. I am looking for a woofer, mid, tweeter combination.

"you say tomato..."

clmrt
11-22-2005, 05:45 AM
I guess an explanation for that is if you look at speaker systems in general from way back, they started with a single driver. Then came 2-ways, and later it made sense to add an UHF driver - the terminology back then was still to call the "mid" the HF.

Nightbrace
11-22-2005, 02:26 PM
gotcha guys, wasn't alive back then to know the terminology.

Wouldn't it be most cost effective to go with the LE25 tweetes and LE5-6-12 dirvers.

The dirvers listed for the EN3's will be very hard to find and most likely very expensive.

Again what audiblwe difference will there be between the LE5-6-12 drivers?
They all sound identical to me.

A person I trust very much recommends to go with the L100 drivers mainly because they use AlNiCo magnets and because Les Paul uses the L100a speakers in his reference system, what advantages if any would there be between the difference in magnet material?? I read the articel already which describes the differences between AlNiCo and ferritte magnets, and from my understanding they should perform nearly identical.

If I do ultimately decide to go with the LE25 and LE5-6-12 mids what woofer would work great with them in the LN3 cabinets? Can I use AlNiCo magnet woofers with Ferritte mids and tweeters?

Nightbrace
11-22-2005, 11:50 PM
How well will the 2214H woofers work with these mids and tweeters?2214H

Zilch
11-23-2005, 09:46 AM
L100's 123A (2213H, blue, 26.7 Hz), 2203 (black, 22.65 Hz) and 2214H (red, 26 Hz) in your EN3 box.

2203 or 2214H will have smoother, less boomy (read "more realistic") bass than L100, for example.

I'm liking 128H (green, 24.68 Hz) the best of any of them in that box, actually.

How the total system "sounds" depends more upon driver balancing via the crossover....

Lancer
11-23-2005, 09:59 AM
The 128H, 128H-1, and ME120H work in that box too.

Zilch
11-27-2005, 05:39 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-2214H-12-Woofers-L100t-NICE_W0QQitemZ5835639305QQcategoryZ61377QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

Nightbrace
11-28-2005, 08:10 PM
too late, thanks though!

Nightbrace
11-29-2005, 02:36 AM
Are these the drivers the same as the ones in the L112? How well will the tweeters and mids from these speakers work???

Zilch
11-29-2005, 11:58 AM
http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Technical%20Sheet/L112%20ts.pdf

Use the forum "Search" function to navigate the site.

Try "Technical Manuals" as the search string to find the thread you needed for this one.

128H's show up on eBay regularly....

Nightbrace
11-29-2005, 01:38 PM
How will the tweeters from the L112 compare with the LE25's?

Lancer
11-29-2005, 02:19 PM
The 044's are quite a bit better.













Unless of course you prefer LE25's. :p

Nightbrace
11-29-2005, 03:23 PM
The midranges are the LE5-12's correct?

Nightbrace
11-29-2005, 07:23 PM
Yep the drivers from the L112's should be killer for the LN3's.

What crossovers should I go with, I have been told that the L112's crossovers are not the greatest. Is this true?

grumpy
11-29-2005, 08:48 PM
L112 crossover would also be killer dude... whoa...

(or at least a -real- good reference to start, with those components)

If you have specific concerns about stock crossovers, they are likely addressed
in the bowels of these forums (with as many opinions as posters and a few
words of wisdom) :blah:

Lancer
11-30-2005, 04:24 AM
I have been told that the L112's crossovers are not the greatest. Is this true?People are retarded. Don't listen to any of them.


Yep the drivers from the L112's should be killer for the LN3's. What crossovers should I go with?N112's.

grumpy
11-30-2005, 08:03 AM
indeed.:nutz:

Lancer
11-30-2005, 08:44 AM
:rotfl:

andresohc
11-30-2005, 06:55 PM
Are the L150A crossovers similar enough to the l112 to be used with a ported (not PR) cab. I may have a pair of these floating around...

duaneage
11-30-2005, 07:26 PM
Ported versus PR has little to do with the crossovers. Crossovers are concerned with the LF - MF - HF interaction. The drivers used, their physical distance from each other, and voicing design is reflected in the crossover network.

Lancer
12-01-2005, 04:45 AM
Are the L150A crossovers similar enough to the l112 Once again - The L96, L112, and L150A all use the same crossover schematic. It is a less expensive version of the 4313/4313B schematic. The actual physical networks differ from each other depending on manufacturing date.

Nightbrace
12-01-2005, 10:03 PM
I have been told that the L112's crossovers are not the greatest.

What I meant to say is that I was told that the L112 crossovers will not be the greatest for the LN3's any truth to this?

Zilch
12-02-2005, 12:30 AM
Alas, I am unfamiliar with LN3.... :(

grumpy
12-02-2005, 07:23 AM
What I meant to say is that I was told that the L112 crossovers will not be the greatest for the LN3's any truth to this?

There is no information in your premise to argue for or against.
So essentially, no, there is no truth to that statement.

The mids and highs will sound something like an L112 or L150A or L96, which
is a pretty nice place to start, unless you just don't like them to begin with.
Suggest you try to listen to a pair of L112's if possible.

The low end will depend on the box (LN3), tuning, and your room (where you put
them). Others with many years of experience have already indicated that the LN3
would work fine with several options for bass drivers.

Not sure what else you are expecting to hear? (so to speak) If I had the parts and
cabinet, I'd do it :D

-grumpy

duaneage
12-02-2005, 10:57 AM
I have a pair of 2214H woofers for sale along with 104H-2 mids. Buy them from me along with some 035Ti tweeters on eBay and you'll have a L100T system clone that you'll love.

Nightbrace
12-02-2005, 01:20 PM
thank you, I will consider that.

Nightbrace
12-03-2005, 12:49 PM
How would the L-36 crossovers work?? I love the way they sound in the room the LN3's will be going in, given that they are relatively small compared to the LN3's, how well would guys think they would work with the large cabinet size?

Although I have not decided for certain what drivers I will use, I know for sure that the mids will be either the LE5-6 or LE5-12's. For the tweeters I am contemplating between the 044's and the LE25's and the woofers contemplating between the 2214H's and the 128H's/ I am leaning more and more towards the LE25, LE5-6, and 2214H woofers with the L-36 crossovers.. I know the L100 crossovers would be easy to construct as they really only consist of two capacitors. And work well too, I have been talked out of the L112 crossovers by a friend of mine who has heard and built more JBL systems than anyone I know, David Dicks of commonsenseaudio.com.

Does anyone have a schematic of the L-36 crossover? and the L-100 crossover? I may do a "modified version of boht of them combined to suit my room and the size of the cabinet.

grumpy
12-03-2005, 08:15 PM
You can download the O&M manuals from jbl.com... sans schematic, unfortunately.
Might find them here if you search a bit...

http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=5570&highlight=L36+schematic

Food for thought (oldest and cheapest first):
L36 -> 1.5KHz, 6KHz
L96/112/150A -> 1.1KHz, 3.7KHz
L100t3 -> 800Hz, 4.5KHz

Would think the low-mid crossover for the L36 might be a stretch for the 12"
drivers you are considering at the moment (too high).

It would be very helpful to decide on drivers first, crossover design follows.

If nothing else, you have some nice sturdy boxes to experiment with and learn from.

Cheers,

-grumpy

Lancer
12-05-2005, 05:46 AM
I have been talked out of the L112 crossovers by a friend of mine who has heard and built more JBL systems than anyone I know, David Dicks of commonsenseaudio.com.It sounds like you need to add a few people to your Contacts list then. I would imagine that's why you're here. ;) The L112 networks are used with the L96, L112, and L150A components. There is nothing at all wrong with the L112 networks, they perform exactly as intended. The L96 components work best in 1.5 to 3.0 cubic feet and the L112/L150A components work best in 1.5 to 4.0 cubic feet.

It would be very helpful to decide on drivers first.:thmbsup:

Nightbrace
12-08-2005, 12:57 PM
Ok, for now I think I am going with the 2214 H woofers, LE5-6 mids, and the LE25-2 tweeters. These are all readily available for me, and I would like to get these done and at least have something to listen to in my other room./ I am thinking the L100 crossovers would be the best place to start with these speakers and modify the low end capacitor as needed to compensate for the larger cabinet size. The L-36 crossovers are definitely the worst choice with the different woofers.

I'd like to also get a complete L-112 system, but why would I want to strip everything out of them and just put them in these cabinets?? I might as well just keep them original right?? That being said, if I want to get an original pair of JBL speakers, how do the L100T's compare to the L112's?

Nightbrace
12-15-2005, 05:21 PM
I know you guys may think my choices for mids and tweeters may be a bit tame, but the L36's in the room that the LN3's will be going in sound fantastic, all they need is more bass to sound any better.

Nightbrace
12-20-2005, 12:18 PM
What do you guys think of my selections?? OR should I reconsider??

bldozier
12-01-2015, 05:19 PM
Hello can a 2130 be used to make a 2203

hjames
12-03-2015, 05:18 AM
Hello can a 2130 be used to make a 2203

Nightbrace has not been a member for YEARS -
His post here was from 2005 ...
he will not be replying to your Q ...

grumpy
12-03-2015, 07:00 AM
Without just trying it ($75 aftermarket kit? and presumably with the tools and
experience to construct and evaluate), you would need at least information
such as is present for other drivers in the technical area (but is not for these drivers).

At one point, GordonW seemed interested in these things.

bldozier
12-03-2015, 11:02 AM
Pl2230 seems spot, for using the motor swap.



Model
38cm cone type Woofer


Impedance



Allowable input (continuous program)
100W


Sound pressure level (new JIS)
93dB


Frequency characteristic
30Hz ~ 1kHz


fo
16Hz


Crossover frequency
800Hz


Voice coil diameter
10.2cm


Magnetic circuit weight
5.9kg


Magnetic flux density
12,000gauss


Enclosure volume
113 ~ 170liters


Depth
146mm


weight
7.5kg




2203



Model
30cm cone type Woofer


Impedance



Allowable input (continuous program)
100W


Sound pressure level (new JIS)
91dB


Frequency band
30Hz ~ 1kHz


fo
16Hz


Crossover frequency
800Hz


Voice coil diameter Material
10.2cm · copper


Magnetic circuit weight
5.4kg


Magnetic flux density
12,000Gauss


Enclosure volume
42.5L more


depth
12.7cm


weight
6.8kg










Gordon from renton is hard to get a hold of

grumpy
12-03-2015, 12:56 PM
IF flux density and coil diameter were the only parameters to compare, sure.
If you've also compared gap clearance, depth, clearance to back plate,
and pole-piece/top-plate height, you're getting closer.

speakerdave
12-03-2015, 08:13 PM
If you have functioning original 2130's in good condition they really should not be destroyed. They are part of the D131 and subsequent extended range and musical instrument family of 12" Alnico drivers which are valued for electric guitar amps, etc. JBL no longer makes kits for them.

As other responders have said, for hi fi bass drivers the SFG ferrite frames will be better anyway.

bldozier
12-03-2015, 10:13 PM
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?624-Gaps-and-Depths

Both are listed here as
3/4 and 9/32
According to the charts information
Early alinco is the same measurement
As ferrite, verbatim.
68555

I did find a 2202a, and a pair of 3114s
im looking for another.
Wiffed on a 124a a month ago for $85.00
MODEL fa Ots Oms Qes Vas Eft Pa Xmax VD Re Lc SD Dia Bl Mms HUM
112A 40 21 4.0 22 1.2 90 I 60 .11 3 5.8 0.3 28.3 6.0 12.0 22 0.95
116A 28 46 5.0 .51 26 .30 50 19 5 52 0.6 283 6.0 6.7 25 0.85
122A 17 23 7.0 0.24 12.0 .67 50 27 22 5.7 1.5 81.7 10.2 16.0 100 1.08
123A 25 .49 8.5 52 8.3 .68 50 .31 23 4.4 0.6 75.4 9.8 8.9 85 1.00
124A 16 .14 6.0 14 14.1 1.1 100 .20 16 6.3 1.4 81.7 10.2 21.0 100 1.20
12SA 25 .43 7.5 .46 83 .77 50 19 14 5.2 0.7 75.4 98 7.5 32 0.85
127A 25 .43 7.5 .46 83 .77 50 .19 14 5.2 0.7 75.4 9.8 7.5 32 0.85
127H 25 43 7.5 .46 8.4 .77 50 19 9 6.6 0.7 49,0 7.9 7.5 33 1.07
128H 20 24 7.0 .25 9.9 86 100 .31 25 5.7 0.6 81.7 102 16.0 90 1.07
130A 37 18 4.0 .19 10.5 7.7 100 .08 11 5.7 0.8 138.9 133 22.5 70 1.10
136A 16 21 5.5 22 26.0 1.4 100 .20 27 63 1.4 136.8 132 21.0 151 120
2105H 200 53 30 65 .035 1.2 25 06 1 6.1 0.3 9.6 3.5 6.6 3.5 1.35
2108 40 .17 4.5 .18 1.3 1.2 75 .06 2 5.8 0.5 28.3 6.0 13.0 20 1.02
2110 60 .31 3.5 .34 1.2 2.1 25 10 3 6.0 0.3 332 6.5 6.8 11 0.85
2115A 55 .48 4.0 .54 12 1.0 30 .22 6 5.5 0.3 28.3 6.0 6.8 11 0.85
2118H 85 .35 2.4 .40 05 2.1 100 .12 4 5.5 0.6 33.2 6.5 11.0 17 1.05
2118J 85 .35 2.4 .40 0.5 2.1 100 .12 4 10.3 0.9 33.2 6.5 15.0 17 1.05
2120 65 .36 4.0 .40 1.6 3.0 75 06 3 6.0 0.4 49.0 79 10.3 17 1.02
2121 35 19 5.5 .20 3.9 2.7 75 06 3 6.8 0.9 49.0 79 12.7 25 1.00
2121H 35 .16 5.5 .17 3.9 2.7 75 .06 3 6.0 0.8 49.0 79 13.7 26 1 02
2122H 40 23 1.9 26 2.3 2.4 100 12 6 5.8 0.6 50.3 8.0 13.2 28 1.02
2123H 85 .32 2.5 .37 0.7 3.5 250 10 5 4.2 0.4 49.0 7.9 13.0 25 1.07
2123J 85 .32 2.5 .37 0.7 3.5 250 .10 5 8.7 0.8 49.0 7.9 18.7 25 1.07
2125 45 .45 4.5 .50 4.8 25 50 .10 8 6.0 0.5 81.7 10.2 12.4 45 1 00
2130 50 .20 4.0 .21 4.3 6.9 100 .06 5 6.3 0.6 81.7 102 18.0 35 1.20
2135 40 .25 4 0 27 10.5 6 7 125 .06 8 6.3 0.6 1386 13.2 180 60 1.20
2U2H 72 .75 4.2 92 1.6 1.82 100 .25 20 5.2 0.85 81.7 10.2
2145A 30 .51 12.0 .53 5.5 .76 50 .14 10 5.0 0.4 67.9 9 3 9.4 50 1 00
2150 55 64 5.0 73 3.5 2 2 50 .10 12 5.5 1.0 116.9 122 22.3 105 1.20
2152H 85 .39 3.3 44 1.3 5.1 150 0.1 8 4.5 0.5 81.7 102
2155H 53 .47 4.47 .53 5.8 4.4 150 0.1 14 4.2 0 48 1389 13.3
2202A 50 .17 3.5 .18 3.1 55 100 .12 10 5.5 1.0 81.7 10.2 22.0 50 120
2202H 50 .16 35 .18 3.1 6.0 150 .14 11 5.5 1.1 81.7 102 225 50 1.20

2202J 50 .16 4.3 18 3.1 6.0 150 14 11 11.0 1.8 81.7 10.2 27.8 50 1 20
2203A 16 .14 6.0 14 14.1 1.1 100 .20 16 6.3 1.4 817 102 21.0 100 120
2203H 16 .14 6.0 14 14.1 1.1 100 20 16 6.3 1.4 81.7 102 21.0 100 1.20
2204H 45 -35 1.7 44 31 1 8 350 .27 22 6 2 0.7 833 10.3 15.0 57 1.20
2204J 45 .35 1.7 .44 3.1 1.8 350 27 22 12.4 1.6 83.3 10.3 25.5 57 120
2205A 30 .21 5.0 22 10.5 3.5 150 .10 14 5.5 1.3 138.9 13.3 223 105 120
2205H 30 .21 5.0 22 10.5 3.5 150 10 14 5.5 1.3 138 9 13 3 223 105 1.20
2206H 52 .32 4.45 .34 2.2 2.5 600 .30 25 53 1.5 84.9 10.4 18.1 65
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Audiocluster
03-05-2016, 02:45 PM
Been following this in the shadows.....
Can't help sharing this stoke of pure LUCK I just had.
Tme to buy a lottery ticket.
See:
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?37997-JBL-12-quot-Transducer-Decision-Unbeliveable

Charles

bldozier
04-09-2016, 12:38 AM
How about the k/e120

bldozier
07-13-2016, 03:08 PM
Anyone