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LE15-Thumper
11-01-2005, 12:28 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/28/ebay.scam.ap/index.html


Maybe this will be a deterant
Steve Schell
11-01-2005, 12:36 PM
Hopefully these criminals will be more widely apprehended and punished in the future. Most municipalities own chipping machines that would be suitable for the purpose.
Audiobeer
11-01-2005, 12:59 PM
$450,000! Wow! To bad they aren't in the American Penal system. They could serve the 3 years getting a degree, Working all day & watching TV all night. The only downside is the old hiding the salami routine. Those bastards deserve what they got! That couldn't be the same guys with the L-300 scams is it? It was to quick to be caught and jailed. They must have franchized the scam.
chad
11-01-2005, 01:52 PM
I don't imagine that any of the laundered funds can be returned to the victims. Which sucks.
Zilch
11-01-2005, 02:09 PM
What's amazing is how many greedy idiots are willing to go around eBay and send cash to Romania thinking they're REALLY gonna get stuff that cheap.

Must be plenty more out there, as our Paragon scammers are still doing it. Reported two more just listed....
johnaec
11-01-2005, 02:10 PM
That couldn't be the same guys with the L-300 scams is it?Nope. These people were sending fraud 2nd offer scams.

John
scott fitlin
11-01-2005, 04:12 PM
At least they are finally doing something about this Ebay problem, which, unfortunately, is growing larger every day!
Rudy Kleimann
11-01-2005, 05:03 PM
At least they are finally doing something about this Ebay problem, which, unfortunately, is growing larger every day!

Not much, IMHO. The News story states that this scam ring had been ripping off (mostly) Americans since July 2003 -more than 2 years! And it was the British government, NOT EBAY, that caught, prosecuted, and imprisoned the criminals.

Also of note: most of the money went to a crime network, and the rest went to their "lifestyle".
scott fitlin
11-01-2005, 06:09 PM
There would be only one way to make Ebay sit up and take notice, and actually strive to clean the bay up! If people stopped using the bay, but this wont happen!

So, at the present time, I guess eBay remains a sellers market, and a thugs paradise!
andywin
11-01-2005, 11:38 PM
One common fact to almost all ebay frauds is that monies are sent with a bankers draft or via Wesern Union. If ebay were to only support a secure method of payment fraud would be reduced.
I've never had any problems using paypal. I'm not sure it's totally fraud proof but those who wire large sums of cash around the world to people they don't know need their head examined!

Another thing that really does annoy me with ebay is that it allows the sellers to pull their auctions at the last minute, usually with some feeble excuse as to why.
Why don't they say they were too tight to pay ebay fees to list with a reserve and the auction was a long way off their expectations on price. You could'nt do that in any other auction house.

I'll step off my soapbox now...........
Zilch
11-02-2005, 01:26 AM
eBay sellers cannot end their auctions at the "last minute" if there's a winning bid and and/or the reserve has been met:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/end_early.html
jbl
11-02-2005, 08:25 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/28/ebay.scam.ap/index.html


Maybe this will be a deterant
I doubt it. There's alot more out there.
Ron
johnaec
11-02-2005, 11:04 AM
Ha ha! Every now and then I get pissed enough to email a scammer after notifying eBay, just to ask him why he keeps doing this and that I hope he rots in hell. I just got a reply back from one of them saying "I am already in hell"...

John
andywin
11-02-2005, 11:40 AM
eBay sellers cannot end their auctions at the "last minute" if there's a winning bid and and/or the reserve has been met:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/end_early.html

Not true..... I've had it happen on numerous occasions. I've attached a link to the last auction it happened on. Click on the bid history to see all the cancelled bids.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Goodmans-Axiom-80-10-Twin-Exponential-Loudspeakers-x-2_W0QQitemZ5819985115QQcategoryZ43804QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Zilch
11-02-2005, 02:08 PM
Not true..... It appears to have been ended a day early, not at the "last minute."

"I am already in hell"....Workin' for the Romanian Mafia wouldn't be "easy money" I don't imagine.... ;)
andywin
11-02-2005, 02:35 PM
It appears to have been ended a day early, not at the "last minute."

Just pedantics but ultimately the same end result, why have an auction running for a number of days if there is no intention to see it through.
Many have been at the latest possible moment. That example just happened to be the latest one.
One guy contacted me after he had cancelled an auction to try and sell direct.I declined and he e-mailed a very stroppy message.
Whether they are scamming buyers or ebay on fees, as far as I'm concerned they are all tarred with the same brush. Fortunately there are lots of honest, ethical buyers and sellers out there
Tom Loizeaux
11-02-2005, 03:04 PM
... If ebay were to only support a secure method of payment fraud would be reduced.
I've never had any problems using paypal...

I've had my PayPal account hacked and money taken. It was attached to my Bank account and money was transferd out!
eBay and PayPal need to improve their security!

P.S. Paypal replaced all the lost funds!