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SUPERBEE
02-20-2005, 10:59 AM
Can anyone help me with a few questions here................................


What is the difference between a Paragon and a Ranger Paragon?

Would a Paragon originally loaded with the 150 4C's the 375s and the 075s be a "Ranger" paragon?

what is the price difference between the Ranger and the regular Paragon on the market?

What do each usually go for in good shape?


:banghead: Thank you
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paragon
02-20-2005, 11:01 AM
I think there is no difference. The Paragon is the "Ranger Paragon" !!:D
And there is only one original Paragon !
First they use the 150 C-4 , later they used the LE 15A and last the LE 15H and 376 driver with 2402 (?).

SUPERBEE
02-20-2005, 11:04 AM
So am I mistaken in thinking that the early models loaded with the 150 4C's the 375s and the 075s Would be more sought after or more valuable?

SUPERBEE
02-20-2005, 07:42 PM
Anyone?...................Buellar?

Mr. Widget
02-20-2005, 08:52 PM
So am I mistaken in thinking that the early models loaded with the 150 4C's the 375s and the 075s Would be more sought after or more valuable?

The early ones are worth more, and by many accounts sound a bit better. I don't think the "Ranger" term definitively designates those components though.

Widget

Don McRitchie
02-20-2005, 09:04 PM
"Ranger" stands for Richard Ranger, who devised the dispersion principle on which the Paragon was based and consulted on the original design. It's similar to the way that the "Hartsfield" was named after the consultant that designed the bass horn - Bill Hartsfield. Over time, JBL dropped the Ranger name and just referred to it as the Paragon. However, even as late as the mid 70's, the standard spec sheet that JBL distributed for the Paragon referred to it as the Ranger Paragon. The original Paragon was introduced in 1957 and was made out of plywood. Around 1960, the construction changed to particle board and the LE15A was substituted for the 150-4C. The early 1957-1960 versions are worth the most and have sold for over $20,000. The later versions seem to go for $10-15,000.

SUPERBEE
02-20-2005, 09:13 PM
Thanks all

I have a beautiful one from the late 50s and I notice it does not have a JBL logo on it. It is loaded with the early drivers and sounds wonderfull. I need to find its value for insurance puposes.

whgeiger
02-20-2005, 09:48 PM
S-B,

On 27-Nov-1962, Patent No. 3,065,816, entitled, “Stereophonic Sound Distributor”, was issued to Richard H. Ranger.

"Paragon" was the name given by JBL to the large footprint enclosure detailed in patent Figures 1 and 2.

The moniker “Ranger Paragon” covers all driver configuration variants of this enclosure.

There were other JBL derivatives of this design with a smaller footprint. These were called the “Metregon” and “Minigon”

Regards,

WHG

SUPERBEE
02-20-2005, 10:04 PM
Thanx!


I had heard that the term "Ranger Paragon" referes to the ones with the original load. And later versions were just called "Paragon"
I can trace the line of mine back to the late 50s as I am the second owner but I wonder about the fact it has never had the JBL logo on it. Maybe they just didnt do that at first?
So a fair market value for mine and the cost to find another nice clean late 50s one be around 15K?

You all have been most hepfull

BTW...I had a minigon for several years.........HATED the way that sounded

Micha748
09-09-2005, 04:45 PM
Why did you hate that? Perhaps the cone were dryed out???
Then the sound is really bad...