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Valentin
07-09-2003, 05:01 PM
i wonder if it will be for sale in the US

looks atractive

http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/products/jbl_cons/jblcindx.htm


some has information on this one

Niklas Nord
07-10-2003, 01:19 AM
yes, and with a nice stand also.. There is that car -bass -driver again....

boputnam
07-10-2003, 08:02 AM
Look at the 4348, too, and the five versions of the 4312!! :eek:

Hard to believe there isn't a market here, in the US, for some of these! Anybody in H-K got a bead on the US market? :mad:

Then again, it's just as well they are ignoring us - how many MORE cabinets can I squeeze into my house! ;)

Don McRitchie
07-10-2003, 08:32 AM
Car bass driver????

The bass driver owes its legacy to the LE125 from the K2-S5500 and has no relation to the car drivers in either design or construction.

The 4428 is actually 2/3 of a S5800 using the same mid/high drivers and horn and same bass driver - albeit just one.

Valentin
07-10-2003, 05:13 PM
DON

does theK2 s 5800 have the same bass Imaginary Equivalent Tuning as the s 5500 or is it one box for both drivers

Don McRitchie
07-10-2003, 06:02 PM
I'm pretty sure it does. This is Greg Timber's preferred tuning since it allows for bass extension with only a minor sacrifice to dynamics. Greg was pretty much left alone to set the design parameters for that speaker, while the S9800 and 4348 had more influence from the target Japanese market. I believe the 5800 is available domestically since there was a price announcement for the US some time ago at $20,000/pr. The 4428 and 4348 are not planned for domestic sale.

herve M
07-11-2003, 04:14 AM
Hello Don,
the 4428 : superb successor of 4425!
Difference between 175Nd and 275 Nd ?
The 275Nd it's neodynium version of 2426. And 175Nd ???

Ultratweeter 015M : ??? Tweeter dome or compression driver ??

herve M
07-15-2003, 02:19 AM
Don : "The 4428 is actually 2/3 of a S5800 using the same mid/high drivers and horn and same bass driver - albeit just one."


__________________Don, the 4428 use different drivers!
mid: S5800: 435al
4428: 175nd-2

high: s5800: 045ti
4428: 015M

Regards Hervé

Figge
05-17-2004, 03:11 AM
are these things built by jbl with the same quality? canīt believe that itīs only japanes buying new jbl...why are they only availible in japan?:wtf:

4313B
05-17-2004, 09:10 AM
"why are they only availible in japan?"

Because Japan isn't a nation of Walmart shoppers?

:rotfl:

You have to remember that the transducers used in these systems are state of the art and very expensive. The Japanese understand that fact and support the required R&D by buying the products.

The people in the U.S. that have the cash to buy these products don't go pick 4428's or 4348's off the shelf at a local dealer. They call their favorite contractor and have their current housing construction pre-wired for a custom JBL sound system. They don't drop $20,000 on a pair of K2-S9800's, they drop $20,000 on a custom installed JBL system. That's how it was explained to me.

Figge
05-17-2004, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by Giskard
Because Japan isn't a nation of Walmart shoppers?




thats a verygood arguement too!.....dunno if itīs true but...it sounds good :)

4313B
05-17-2004, 09:25 AM
I don't know if it's true either. :p

Sounds provacative though doesn't it? :p

johnaec
05-17-2004, 10:03 AM
It also looks like they also still have a sub with the SUB1500 in it: http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/products/jbl_cons/jbl_hpow.htm

John

4313B
05-17-2004, 10:55 AM
Yes, I posted the specs of that particular sub awhile back. I notice they only used a single MA15 mounting kit for it. I was thinking I was going to have to use at least 1-1/2 kits per driver.