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hlaari
05-15-2018, 01:33 PM
I need some help to get Aquaplas coating paint
I have talk to company in Canada that sell it in 5 gallon but that is way to much for me and also they don´t to sell the paint to me
if someone can help me I would be very nice
Ari
hlaari
05-17-2018, 12:01 PM
if there are some people here that are interested in this coating I need one of them to help me to buy it
here are the coating I am thinking about
https://acousticalsolutions.com/product/antivibe-dl-10-metal-damping-compound/
hlaari
05-17-2018, 04:51 PM
ok, it look´s like the people here are not interested in this
I think at this will be my last post here, I see no reason to waste my time here anymore
cooky1257
05-18-2018, 09:56 AM
ok, it look´s like the people here are not interested in this
I think at this will be my last post here, I see no reason to waste my time here anymore
Calm down Ari, have you asked Richard? he got me a 35mm film canister full a few years ago.......
macaroonie
05-18-2018, 10:10 AM
^^^^ This. Hey is this intended for HF diaphragms or for paper cones ?
BMWCCA
05-18-2018, 10:04 PM
ok, it look´s like the people here are not interested in this
I think at this will be my last post here, I see no reason to waste my time here anymore
Ooh, I love a good threat!
And we did . . . what, to incur your wrath?
:banghead:
Ian Mackenzie
05-18-2018, 11:22 PM
Rolf (RIP) once made a similar outburst because nobody responded to a post.
It could be attributed insomnia of the northern hemisphere.
cooky1257
05-19-2018, 03:52 AM
^^^^ This. Hey is this intended for HF diaphragms or for paper cones ?
I'm guessing its exactly the same beige clay like material regardless that needs to be emulsified(ish) before application.
macaroonie
05-19-2018, 04:27 AM
Question was more to do with quantity than anything else.
cooky1257
05-19-2018, 05:34 AM
Question was more to do with quantity than anything else.
Ah I getcha. You'd need about 80g to coat 2 15" bass drivers(beats 2 mass rings!)...
Ian Mackenzie
05-19-2018, 10:27 PM
No they would not export
Most countries have certifications and restrictions on what you can legally export or import.
These days they are tough and there are significant fines for not declaring what a product or substance is?
1audiohack
05-20-2018, 07:50 AM
Does anyone know if this is really the right stuff?
Barry.
macaroonie
05-20-2018, 08:19 AM
There was some deep digging into this long ago on LH.
Antivibe is what we would know as Aquaplas. Made by Blachford
https://blachfordacoustics.com/product-solutions/acoustical-materials/
see DL at the bottom of the page
Sold here for example
https://acousticalsolutions.com/product/antivibe-dl-10-metal-damping-compound/
more reading
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?6653-is-this-a-true-replacement-for-aquaplas
hlaari
05-20-2018, 01:58 PM
it look´s like I have found the right stuff on more than one place
so the problem is solved!
macaroonie
05-20-2018, 02:25 PM
it look´s like I have found the right stuff on more than one place
so the problem is solved!
Can you get small quantity ? 1kg for example
richluvsound
05-21-2018, 03:19 AM
:D Ari, Did you call them .... ?
Richard
hlaari
05-21-2018, 05:39 PM
:D Ari, Did you call them .... ?
Richard
No, I have not
if the members are intersting about to get some of this stuff we might help them, what do you think?
hlaari
05-21-2018, 05:43 PM
Ooh, I love a good threat!
And we did . . . what, to incur your wrath?
:banghead:
Sorry for this, I was not going to be rude with anyone here on the forum, I did just have a bad day
so I apologize to all the forum members!
Malefoda
05-26-2018, 12:44 PM
Can you get small quantity ? 1kg for example
UK is not that far... And if you get some, maybe you can spare, paid of course, 0.1? I'm interested but need not that much (tweeter). Let see what can we do...
brutal
05-27-2018, 02:27 PM
it look´s like I have found the right stuff on more than one place
so the problem is solved!
You come to ask for help, but when you find "more than one place" you don't post the details?
:blink:
hlaari
05-27-2018, 03:21 PM
You come to ask for help, but when you find "more than one place" you don't post the details?
:blink:
there are very few people interested in this and most of them have send me pm to get this info
Are you helpful to other members!
I hope so, at least act like that?
https://acousticalsolutions.com/prod...ping-compound/ (https://acousticalsolutions.com/product/antivibe-dl-10-metal-damping-compound/)
https://www.soundaway.com/Noxudol-Sound-Damping-Can-p/28003.htm
and also in Europe
http://www.swedac-acoustic.com/products/stomljudsdampande/dampmassa-dc-p-500/
Ian Mackenzie
05-27-2018, 04:47 PM
Hi Ari,
Have you checked that these alternatives with aerosol formulations are suitable and have you tested these products?
You have not provided any commentary on what and how?
The product used by Jbl on compression driver diaphragms is a diluted water based compound and applied with a spray application in very thin coatings?
It’s not a thick paste.
Some members used a fine art brush and a rotatable table like a turntable platter and applied two or three very light coatings. Bare in mind the jbl used lighter titanium diaphragms in some instances.
I recommend you experiment on aluminium foil.
hlaari
05-27-2018, 05:07 PM
Hi Ari,
Have you checked that these alternatives with aerosol formulations are suitable and have you tested these products?
You have not provided any commentary on what and how?
The product used by Jbl on compression driver diaphragms is a diluted water based compound and applied with a spray application in very thin coatings?
It’s not a thick paste.
Some members used a fine art brush and a rotatable table like a turntable platter and applied two or three very light coatings. Bare in mind the jbl used lighter titanium diaphragms in some instances.
I recommend you experiment on aluminium foil.
Ian, I have not tried any of this stuff, the reason I did open this thread was to find any member that know something about this stuff
I did talk to Guido in Germany for few week´s ago and he point me on this stuff, and he did use this coating paint
https://acousticalsolutions.com/prod...ping-compound/ (https://acousticalsolutions.com/product/antivibe-dl-10-metal-damping-compound/)
about the thin layer, some of this stuff I have mentioned are used with water to get light coating
does people here really think at JBL let us have the formula for the Aquaplas paint coating paint they use for there drivers and diaphragms:eek:
we need to try some of this stuff like a sample first before we can say at this is the right stuff
Ian Mackenzie
05-27-2018, 05:28 PM
I do believe it’s a commercial product and yes some of it was passed around.
I did in fact observe Rich paint a diaphragm.
It was a privilege to observe a true artist doing what he does best.
I being the tourist was charged with topping up the wine glasses during the procedure.
My inclination is less is more with these coatings.
Good luck with your experiments and let us know how it goes.
Btw l will be in the UK in Sept/Oct. Perhaps an opportunity will lend itself to reunion.
I realize this tread are few months old.
But I suggest experimenting with the Noisekiller products.
its a water based viscoelastic damping compound aviable in 1L cans.
I have used it at the backside on paper cones for adding mass and stiffness with good results.
And believe it should be possible to use it on metal diaphragms too, if thinned properly (with water)
Back in the days there was a version sold by Rockford Fosgate with a pretty grainy almost "sandy" consistence.
But the Noisekiller black. I bougt last time where much smooter, almost glossy.
http://www.noisekiller.no/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/noisekiller_produktdatablad_black_grey_engelsk_NEW .pdf
Ian Mackenzie
10-13-2018, 11:35 AM
Thank you for posting this information
Malefoda
10-13-2018, 02:12 PM
So it's glossy and black? Do you mind sharing pictures?
Thanks for the tip.
I realize this tread are few months old.
But I suggest experimenting with the Noisekiller products.
its a water based viscoelastic damping compound aviable in 1L cans.
I have used it at the backside on paper cones for adding mass and stiffness with good results.
And believe it should be possible to use it on metal diaphragms too, if thinned properly (with water)
Back in the days there was a version sold by Rockford Fosgate with a pretty grainy almost "sandy" consistence.
But the Noisekiller black. I bougt last time where much smooter, almost glossy.
http://www.noisekiller.no/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/noisekiller_produktdatablad_black_grey_engelsk_NEW .pdf
Wallacefl
10-16-2018, 07:32 AM
The Speaker Exchange has a white coating recone for the 2213/123a...wonder what it really is made of?
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