Aquaplas coating paint

[hlaari]

I need some help to get Aquaplas coating paint

I have talk to company in Canada that sell it in 5 gallon but that is way to much for me and also they don´t to sell the paint to me
if someone can help me I would be very nice



Ari

[hlaari]

if there are some people here that are interested in this coating I need one of them to help me to buy it
here are the coating I am thinking about
https://acousticalsolutions.com/product/antivibe-dl-10-metal-damping-compound/

[hlaari]

ok, it look´s like the people here are not interested in this
I think at this will be my last post here, I see no reason to waste my time here anymore

[cooky1257]

ok, it look´s like the people here are not interested in this
I think at this will be my last post here, I see no reason to waste my time here anymore

Calm down Ari, have you asked Richard? he got me a 35mm film canister full a few years ago.......

[macaroonie]

^^^^ This. Hey is this intended for HF diaphragms or for paper cones ?

[BMWCCA]

ok, it look´s like the people here are not interested in this
I think at this will be my last post here, I see no reason to waste my time here anymore

Ooh, I love a good threat!

And we did . . . what, to incur your wrath?

:banghead:

[Ian Mackenzie]

Rolf (RIP) once made a similar outburst because nobody responded to a post.

It could be attributed insomnia of the northern hemisphere.

[cooky1257]

^^^^ This. Hey is this intended for HF diaphragms or for paper cones ?

I'm guessing its exactly the same beige clay like material regardless that needs to be emulsified(ish) before application.

[macaroonie]

Question was more to do with quantity than anything else.

[cooky1257]

Question was more to do with quantity than anything else.
Ah I getcha. You'd need about 80g to coat 2 15" bass drivers(beats 2 mass rings!)...

[Ian Mackenzie]

No they would not export

Most countries have certifications and restrictions on what you can legally export or import.

These days they are tough and there are significant fines for not declaring what a product or substance is?

[1audiohack]

Does anyone know if this is really the right stuff?

Barry.

[macaroonie]

There was some deep digging into this long ago on LH.

Antivibe is what we would know as Aquaplas. Made by Blachford

https://blachfordacoustics.com/product-solutions/acoustical-materials/

see DL at the bottom of the page

Sold here for example

https://acousticalsolutions.com/product/antivibe-dl-10-metal-damping-compound/


more reading

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?6653-is-this-a-true-replacement-for-aquaplas

[hlaari]

it look´s like I have found the right stuff on more than one place
so the problem is solved!

[macaroonie]

it look´s like I have found the right stuff on more than one place
so the problem is solved!

Can you get small quantity ? 1kg for example

[richluvsound]

:D Ari, Did you call them .... ?

Richard

[hlaari]

:D Ari, Did you call them .... ?

Richard


No, I have not
if the members are intersting about to get some of this stuff we might help them, what do you think?

[hlaari]

Ooh, I love a good threat!

And we did . . . what, to incur your wrath?

:banghead:


Sorry for this, I was not going to be rude with anyone here on the forum, I did just have a bad day
so I apologize to all the forum members!

[Malefoda]

Can you get small quantity ? 1kg for example

UK is not that far... And if you get some, maybe you can spare, paid of course, 0.1? I'm interested but need not that much (tweeter). Let see what can we do...

[brutal]

it look´s like I have found the right stuff on more than one place
so the problem is solved!

You come to ask for help, but when you find "more than one place" you don't post the details?

:blink:

[hlaari]

You come to ask for help, but when you find "more than one place" you don't post the details?

:blink:

there are very few people interested in this and most of them have send me pm to get this info
Are you helpful to other members!
I hope so, at least act like that?




https://acousticalsolutions.com/prod...ping-compound/ (https://acousticalsolutions.com/product/antivibe-dl-10-metal-damping-compound/)
https://www.soundaway.com/Noxudol-Sound-Damping-Can-p/28003.htm

and also in Europe
http://www.swedac-acoustic.com/products/stomljudsdampande/dampmassa-dc-p-500/

[Ian Mackenzie]

Hi Ari,

Have you checked that these alternatives with aerosol formulations are suitable and have you tested these products?

You have not provided any commentary on what and how?

The product used by Jbl on compression driver diaphragms is a diluted water based compound and applied with a spray application in very thin coatings?

It’s not a thick paste.

Some members used a fine art brush and a rotatable table like a turntable platter and applied two or three very light coatings. Bare in mind the jbl used lighter titanium diaphragms in some instances.

I recommend you experiment on aluminium foil.

[hlaari]

Hi Ari,

Have you checked that these alternatives with aerosol formulations are suitable and have you tested these products?

You have not provided any commentary on what and how?

The product used by Jbl on compression driver diaphragms is a diluted water based compound and applied with a spray application in very thin coatings?

It’s not a thick paste.

Some members used a fine art brush and a rotatable table like a turntable platter and applied two or three very light coatings. Bare in mind the jbl used lighter titanium diaphragms in some instances.

I recommend you experiment on aluminium foil.


Ian, I have not tried any of this stuff, the reason I did open this thread was to find any member that know something about this stuff
I did talk to Guido in Germany for few week´s ago and he point me on this stuff, and he did use this coating paint

https://acousticalsolutions.com/prod...ping-compound/ (https://acousticalsolutions.com/product/antivibe-dl-10-metal-damping-compound/)

about the thin layer, some of this stuff I have mentioned are used with water to get light coating

does people here really think at JBL let us have the formula for the Aquaplas paint coating paint they use for there drivers and diaphragms:eek:
we need to try some of this stuff like a sample first before we can say at this is the right stuff

[Ian Mackenzie]

I do believe it’s a commercial product and yes some of it was passed around.
I did in fact observe Rich paint a diaphragm.

It was a privilege to observe a true artist doing what he does best.
I being the tourist was charged with topping up the wine glasses during the procedure.

My inclination is less is more with these coatings.

Good luck with your experiments and let us know how it goes.

Btw l will be in the UK in Sept/Oct. Perhaps an opportunity will lend itself to reunion.

[FE3T]

I realize this tread are few months old.

But I suggest experimenting with the Noisekiller products.
its a water based viscoelastic damping compound aviable in 1L cans.

I have used it at the backside on paper cones for adding mass and stiffness with good results.
And believe it should be possible to use it on metal diaphragms too, if thinned properly (with water)

Back in the days there was a version sold by Rockford Fosgate with a pretty grainy almost "sandy" consistence.
But the Noisekiller black. I bougt last time where much smooter, almost glossy.

http://www.noisekiller.no/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/noisekiller_produktdatablad_black_grey_engelsk_NEW .pdf

[Ian Mackenzie]

Thank you for posting this information

[Malefoda]

So it's glossy and black? Do you mind sharing pictures?
Thanks for the tip.


I realize this tread are few months old.

But I suggest experimenting with the Noisekiller products.
its a water based viscoelastic damping compound aviable in 1L cans.

I have used it at the backside on paper cones for adding mass and stiffness with good results.
And believe it should be possible to use it on metal diaphragms too, if thinned properly (with water)

Back in the days there was a version sold by Rockford Fosgate with a pretty grainy almost "sandy" consistence.
But the Noisekiller black. I bougt last time where much smooter, almost glossy.

http://www.noisekiller.no/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/noisekiller_produktdatablad_black_grey_engelsk_NEW .pdf

[Wallacefl]

The Speaker Exchange has a white coating recone for the 2213/123a...wonder what it really is made of?