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martin_wu99
03-02-2018, 03:20 AM
Why does JBL no longer produce 18 in. woofer monitor speaker (include consumer version)? since so many members here like 4345:crying:

hjames
03-02-2018, 04:48 AM
Members here are not the typical new retail buying public. We are not a significant market segment for sales.
Look at what is in stock at best Buy and similar consumer places.
These days, the typical buyers are into Sound bars and small subs, if at all ...
The average homeowner does not place the same value on having large speakers in their homes as we do -
Big boxes are just not a large sale in the overall scheme of things ...

I do know what you mean - I DO have a vintage 18" JBL subwoofer in my HT room -
but I bought it used at a good price - a lot of audio aficionados can a be frugal lot, too,
not always willing to pay retail prices for things.





Why does JBL no longer produce 18 in. woofer monitor speaker (include consumer version)? since so many members here like 4345:crying:

Ed Kreamer
03-02-2018, 05:14 PM
Well JBL does if you consider the Sub 18. If one goes to the pro web sight, it can be seen between 2 M2's. It's probably better than a single multiway box with an 18 in it in that the user has a lot more placement flexibility. Or

buy 2 of them and place your M2's or LSR6332's on top of them. One could break leases or ruin foundations world wide.

Ed

Mr. Widget
03-02-2018, 07:02 PM
Well JBL does if you consider the Sub 18. If one goes to the pro web sight, it can be seen between 2 M2's. It's probably better than a single multiway box with an 18 in it in that the user has a lot more placement flexibility.Yep, being able to locate subwoofers ideally in the room is a huge help when integrating speakers in a room.


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martin_wu99
03-03-2018, 07:07 AM
Members here are not the typical new retail buying public. We are not a significant market segment for sales.
Look at what is in stock at best Buy and similar consumer places.
These days, the typical buyers are into Sound bars and small subs, if at all ...
The average homeowner does not place the same value on having large speakers in their homes as we do -
Big boxes are just not a large sale in the overall scheme of things ...

I do know what you mean - I DO have a vintage 18" JBL subwoofer in my HT room -
but I bought it used at a good price - a lot of audio aficionados can a be frugal lot, too,
not always willing to pay retail prices for things.
Even for professional studio and workshop,JBL should issue large 18 in. woofer studio monitor,M2 is not enough,66000,67000 is not for studios.

martin_wu99
03-03-2018, 07:12 AM
Well JBL does if you consider the Sub 18. If one goes to the pro web sight, it can be seen between 2 M2's. It's probably better than a single multiway box with an 18 in it in that the user has a lot more placement flexibility. Or

buy 2 of them and place your M2's or LSR6332's on top of them. One could break leases or ruin foundations world wide.

Ed
Sub 18 is another thing,maybe someone want drive his monitor by only one amp,just like 4345:D

hjames
03-03-2018, 01:46 PM
But someone - is not many. You can not run a business on "...some"

Basically, there is no real demand for big speakers the size of a small refrigerator anymore.



Sub 18 is another thing,maybe someone want drive his monitor by only one amp,just like 4345:D

ngccglp
03-04-2018, 05:52 AM
Sub 18 is another thing,maybe someone want drive his monitor by only one amp,just like 4345:D

Just get a pair of 4345 and be happy. Kenrick Sound occasionally will have stock.

martin_wu99
03-04-2018, 08:56 PM
Just get a pair of 4345 and be happy. Kenrick Sound occasionally will have stock.
Congrates!you lucky guy:D
I'm looking for 4345 all over the conutry:blink:
Do you mind telling the cost of your 4345?

martin_wu99
03-05-2018, 01:22 AM
But someone - is not many. You can not run a business on "...some"

Basically, there is no real demand for big speakers the size of a small refrigerator anymore.
I don't think so,GENELEC and Dynaudio and ATC and PMC are still producing big twin 15 in. or 18 in. woofer monitors
As a professional speaker manufacturer,JBL should has full line productions

Ian Mackenzie
03-05-2018, 02:35 AM
Congrates!you lucky guy:D
I'm looking for 4345 all over the conutry:blink:
Do you mind telling the cost of your 4345?



Why donít you go the diy route?

In relation to your earlier question an 18 inch monitor is simply too large dimensionally for todayís recording studios.

hjames
03-05-2018, 05:30 AM
I don't think so, GENELEC and Dynaudio and ATC and PMC are still producing big twin 15 in. or 18 in. woofer monitors
As a professional speaker manufacturer,JBL should has full line productions

Nah, JBL is the bastard stepchild of Samsung these days -
After Paliwali purged most of their classic engineering staff,
then sold off Harman, the parent company,
JBL is not at ALL the company they used to be ...
We may be great fans - but you DO have to face the reality.

... You can not run a business THE SIZE OF JBL on "...some"
Basically, there is no real demand for big speakers the size of a small refrigerator anymore.

martin_wu99
03-05-2018, 04:40 PM
Why donít you go the diy route?

In relation to your earlier question an 18 inch monitor is simply too large dimensionally for todayís recording studios.
DIY will cost me a lot of time and the original units are not so easy to get:crying:

Ian Mackenzie
03-06-2018, 08:14 PM
Your priorityís donít match your expectations

Have you thought about breakfast in America?

Sample the 4345 with a forum member and go home with excess baggage

Bye l am aware of a pair of factory 4345s that might be on the market soon.