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Steve Gonzales
12-11-2004, 08:48 PM
I just acquired these Little Babies, I thought you all would get a kick out of :D

Steve Gonzales
12-11-2004, 08:56 PM
I even got the brackets so thats a cool thing. I've NEVER owned a large format JBL driver before and this is a dream come true! I want to set them up on top of my L222's and L220's and find the proper JBl electronic crossover, I can only find info that says 800hz but I wonder if 500hz is possible without damage or other problems?

Wardsweb
12-11-2004, 09:18 PM
Yeowzers, those are some serious horns. (in my best austin powers voice) " now you're horny baby!"

Steve Gonzales
12-11-2004, 09:21 PM
I'm a overkill kinda guy and this is a once in a lifetime deal so as you can see from my avatar, they will sit on top of those two pairs of already horn loaded pairs. I will tweak on the set up a bit and find out how to make it work. thank you for the nice comments and ultra valuable first hand x-over point info, ----DO I MAKE YOU HORNY BABY?-Austin Powers ;)


Wardsweb: Your site is OFF THE HOOK, MAN! , Do you build those speakers? I like the way you used the L94 in that one handbuilt jewel!

Steve Gonzales
12-11-2004, 09:40 PM
I will use one per pair and don't laugh at me but it will be in a 14'x12' room (I know) and my main amps are vintage Yamaha M80,250wpc, 52lb class A's , one per pair and I have an m35 pure class A that bridges to 70 super clean wpc and I'll have to buy a JBL 800hz x-over to run them.

Wardsweb
12-11-2004, 09:47 PM
...Wardsweb: Your site is OFF THE HOOK, MAN! , Do you build those speakers? I like the way you used the L94 in that one handbuilt jewel!
Thanks, I enjoy DIY. The A7's are factory originals that I covered in walnut veneer. As for my custom JBL corner horns, I'm adding a 077 in the blank space below the L94 in each cabinet. The fun never ends.

Steve Gonzales
12-11-2004, 09:49 PM
Yeah, I love that kind of work too now that I can do it for myself. I've never done veneer, where did you get your stock from and how hard is it to work with.

BTW, Great bookmatching!

Steve Gonzales
12-11-2004, 09:53 PM
I am always consulting friends and family with audio matters and always say the volume is like the gas peddle in your car, just because it can go 100mph, that doesn't mean you should. I promise to be VERY CAREFUL with these. All the OG wax seals are intact and I want them to stay that way!

Robh3606
12-11-2004, 10:15 PM
Hey Steve


Nice score!!! Those alnico 2440/41's are huge!!! I saw ELP use a maybe 2 pair of those. Think you got the midrange covered with those horns!!! I have always wanted a pair of those. Don't know what I would do with them but:D

Rob:)

Zilch
12-11-2004, 11:35 PM
I'd be afraid those'd EAT me in the middle of the night! :D

NICE SCORE!

Steve Gonzales
12-11-2004, 11:54 PM
You are one COOL customer, I can't think of a much better way to go :D

paragon
12-12-2004, 04:11 AM
Superb, Steve,

clean them up and give them new paint if there are scratches or anything else.
Welcome to the "2 inch club". :D

Ian Mackenzie
12-12-2004, 04:38 AM
Hey Steve,

Those are darling drivers & horns.

I am sure you will get some very low distortion vocals out of those with your class A amps....

Enjoy.

Ian:)

Steve Gonzales
12-12-2004, 04:50 AM
I've got them up and running now, I made some longer front legs out of 1.25" dowel and stole the feet off my old RT707 RR and used a couple of pieces of L19 enclosure that I had cut out to replace the totally destroyed front "kick plates" of my third pair of L220's that are in the process of restoration and screwed the back 2395 bracket to that, and the whole thing sits quite nicely on the two spacers I had to put on the L222's and L220's when I installed the L300 and 4333 midrange driver/horns, so, they are REALLY functional now! I took the midrange lead wires off the LE85 in my L222's and just ran them to the 375's. I will bet there is alot of room for improvement, but I'll tell you right now that those horns are AMAZING!!! to my ears. Now I'm beginning to hear for myself what all the fuss is about with the two inch drivers and I've just skimmed the surface. I can hardly wait to get it properly set up. Scott F gave me some great first hand X-over tips ( lucky me), so I can go straight to what I need. I just flat lucked out on these and I am humbled. I got to thinking about what the two pairs of 076's, LE14A&H1's, PR15c's,2420/2312's and these new horns and drivers are like? A little Olympus? Anyways, whatever they are simular to, it sounds GREAT and I love JBL even more. Mindblowing when you think that this engineering is 40-50-60-70+ years old! I have been told that these 2395/375 combos can sound harsh but they also can deliver a "quiet finesse" as I've witnessed tonight. Thank you for your encouraging words, they MEAN something to me. I'll put in a couple of shots of my setup at this point, Happy Holidays Sirs, Steve G.

Earl K
12-12-2004, 06:03 AM
Cool !!! :rockon1:

<> Earl K :spin:

johnaec
12-12-2004, 07:32 AM
Great pics, Steve! Are those the original color grilles on your speakers? BTW - you need to clean your camera lens, (all those spots...).


John

paragon
12-12-2004, 10:21 AM
Great Steve,

Listen to your new (old) speakers and relax. Later you may try other networks with your 375 and other horns also (2397, 2390 ...).

Eckhard

Steve Gonzales
12-12-2004, 12:59 PM
Johnaec, the grills have been recovered, the L222's were black, now blue, in honor of the great pro models and consumer ones too and the L220's were originally covered in some ugly potato sack type material that was rust color. Neither of the originals grill material was in good enough condition to salvage anyway. I will clean my lens too,thanks

JBLGUY
12-22-2004, 10:33 AM
Hey Steve


I also have a set of those horns and drivers....they are the best i have heard to date. You are very lucky as they are not all that common. If you need help in setting them up....give me a buzz

Ian Mackenzie
12-22-2004, 01:23 PM
Wow they are nice.

Ian

Steve Gonzales
12-23-2004, 03:52 AM
That is a Sweet lookin' set up. Did you try to sell it on eBay a while back? Thank you for the offer of help too. Looks like ya got ya some other goodies layin' around too. Ya godda LOVE it!

4345
12-23-2004, 02:57 PM
Wow, what a rig. Is that a 4719x double 18 cabinet under the 2395's? Does it us the stock 2241's? Where do you x-over at and what kind of x-over do you use. How do they sound compared to a 4343? Please tell us more.

JBLGUY
12-23-2004, 11:28 PM
Hey guys

Yes that is a 4719x with stock 2241's. I also have 2 Pardigm servo 15's off to the side too. You were asking about the Xover points.
They are
Servo 15's =0-80hz
4719x's =20-300hz
2365's =300-800hz with 2485j drivers
2395 =800-5000hz with 375 drivers
Ribbon Horn =5000-20,000 using a Stage Accompany Compact Ribbon driver

The Xover is a JBL dsc 280

Everything is all on it's own amp 13 amp channels in total



:)

JBLGUY
12-23-2004, 11:38 PM
No Steve they were not on E-bay. although i have purchsed some of this stuff from E-bay seperatly


:cooked: :band:

JBLGUY
12-23-2004, 11:44 PM
Opps missed the question about the 4343's. Well to be honest i have not heard a pair of those. I still would think these would sound better. The big horns and 2 inch drivers are the Ticket over the smaller format. Each system has it merits. After hearing this though, It hards to downgrade. It goes against the very principal of this hobby.... doesn't it now guys


:p

JBLGUY
12-23-2004, 11:53 PM
Here's another pic

JBLGUY
12-23-2004, 11:58 PM
and another

JBLGUY
12-23-2004, 11:59 PM
one more time

Steve Gonzales
12-24-2004, 12:38 AM
AWESOME DISPLAY OF POWER!!!

Andreaspaulsen
12-24-2004, 06:28 AM
jblsguy:

How do hornloading the SA driver affect the sound. I have the 8526 without horn and I am contemplating getting the horn for it. Is it worth the effort ?

Cheers
Andreas

4345
12-24-2004, 08:46 AM
Quite an impressive set up. Thanks for the good photos. My first JBL's were a pair of 2395's(actually, the home model number was on them). Sold them years ago. I have only heard the large bi-radials once and was VERY impressed. I guess a big horn has some advantages over a smaller 2380. They big bi-radials sell very cheap on e-bay. I guess they are just too large for most homes.

Perhaps some of the more technically inclined can explain some of the advantages of a big horn as opposed to a smaller one. Are there any other than the lower x-over capability?