JBL 4341 Monitor Pair question

[Big-Coupe]

Hello,

I am helping a friend by trying to locate the best way to sell a pair of JBL 4341 Monitors that her husband owned.

What is the best way to find a buyer for these?

Thanks

Big-Coupe


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[speakerdave]

Hello,

I am helping a friend by trying to locate the best way to sell a pair of JBL 4341 Monitors that her husband owned.

What is the best way to find a buyer for these?

Thanks

Big-Coupe

Well, there's Craigslist. And there's eBay. In LA you might be able to find an audio dealer who takes consignments. That way you would have a pro on your side who could check them out and negotiate for a fair price, and you would be compensating him for the help he's giving you, which I'm sure you would feel good about. Good luck with your sale!

[Big-Coupe]

Well, there's Craigslist. And there's eBay. In LA you might be able to find an audio dealer who takes consignments. That way you would have a pro on your side who could check them out and negotiate for a fair price, and you would be compensating him for the help he's giving you, which I'm sure you would feel good about. Good luck with your sale!

I thought this was a place for free advice - Could've done without the condesending tone though...Thanks...

[hjames]

I thought this was a place for free advice - Could've done without the condesending tone though...Thanks...
Was a great place for free advice in the early 2000s ... and sometimes folks sold gear and made a donation to help keep the site going -
but so many folks came, asked for advice and got snarky or downright nasty when it didn't suit what they believed,
that the members here are a bit more cautious and less open here now.

Honestly, I didn't think speakerdave was all that condescending -
he sounded pretty reasonable to me.

I think the phrase "Good luck with your sale" was meant to be just that,
wishing you luck on a sale of some old speakers.

[Big-Coupe]

The original posting had a somewhat snarky sentence about me obviously having no experience or knowledge about speakers - it seemed a bit much - I'm sure that's why he edited it after the fact - anyway - I think I know what to do from here - Thanks for your input.

Jeff

[speakerdave]

I thought this was a place for free advice - Could've done without the condesending tone though...Thanks...

What should I say, that you were holding your cards very close, that you were just sticking your toe in, or that your question is unanswerable without more information about the speakers and you? Hold the gripes. You gave us nothing to work with.

[Big-Coupe]

I thought that maybe someone in this group might know of a blog or bulletin board site that would be a good fit for finding a new home for these big boys. I did include a picture that might show at least the general condition. I do have extensive knowledge about speakers - and selling used audio equipment as well - just looking for suggestions for the best forum to find people who might enjoy these - selling them to help a widow out.

Cheers.

Jeff

[speakerdave]

The original posting had a somewhat snarky sentence about me obviously having no experience or knowledge about speakers - it seemed a bit much - I'm sure that's why he edited it after the fact - anyway - I think I know what to do from here - Thanks for your input.

Jeff

You're right. I was making an effort to be more to the point. We get cagey people here who want to be shown the good fishing hole and how to bait the hook, which is sometimes OK because we're often crazy enough to be happy just talking about JBL speakers WITH SOMEONE WHO SHARES THAT FEELING. Aside from that, another truth comes to bear, that being the recipient of presumption is annoying, and some of us react in the ordinary way.

[speakerdave]

I thought that maybe someone in this group might know of a blog or bulletin board site that would be a good fit for finding a new home for these big boys. I did include a picture that might show at least the general condition. I do have extensive knowledge about speakers - and selling used audio equipment as well - just looking for suggestions for the best forum to find people who might enjoy these - selling them to help a widow out.

Cheers.

Jeff

We're probably it. Prepare a completely informative posting for the Lansing Product Market Place subforum with more photos, including the backs of the woofers showing any recone dates, and A PRICE.

[JeffW]

I thought that maybe someone in this group might know of a blog or bulletin board site that would be a good fit for finding a new home for these big boys.

There is a section here devoted to selling JBL related products

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?5-Lansing-Product-Marketplace

Post them there, with an asking price and a few good pics. Ignore the inevitable replies from posters obviously just looking to stir the pot (they'll keep your ad bumped to the top, at least), note your location, and see what happens.

As you might have gathered, this place is a little gunshy about new guys popping in looking for valuations/advice on selling. Most of the folks here have been here for some time and while asking for a valuation might be a one time deal for the asker, we see them a lot. A lot. On the other hand, completed eBay transactions is a great place to see what such items will bring - on eBay. If you don't mind all the baggage that comes with selling big ticket items on eBay.

I'd say the speakers you have pictured are in decent condition and should bring about average price for that model if complete (no grills or horn lenses shown, for example) and need refoams on the woofers at least. Offhand, I'd guess $2.5K to $3.5K, but that's based on the one pic.

Good luck with the sale!

[Big-Coupe]

Hi,

Thanks for the info and the link - I appreciate the advise.

Jeff

[300_Summit]

Ebay will probably be the best place to advertise/sell your 4341s. From the pic, they appear to be in great shape. Everything appears to be original and correct. Those babies will fetch a hefty bounty. If those speakers are in fact all original, you could probably get close to $5,000 (or more) for them. Just depends on the potential buyer(s) and how bad they wan't them. After I got my L-300's "touched up", a guy saw them and offered me $7,000 for them. I guess he wanted them really bad :D

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[Challenger604]

Well, there's Craigslist. And there's eBay. In LA you might be able to find an audio dealer who takes consignments. That way you would have a pro on your side who could check them out and negotiate for a fair price, and you would be compensating him for the help he's giving you, which I'm sure you would feel good about. Good luck with your sale!

Very good advice!

I'm always very suspicious when someone sales JBL speakers for a friend... It stinks from far...

[Wagner]

Never ceases to amaze me; that you can sign up here and go right to work peddling your crap with a "0" post count/zero history of contributing anything, information, assistance, help, insight, "how to", a cash contribution or otherwise, NOTHING.
All you need is a keyboard and a :bs: story:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-JBL-PROFESSIONAL-MODEL-4341-STUDIO-MONITORS-GOOD-COND-SEQUENTIAL-SNs-/301887046762?hash=item4649dec46a:g:NUIAAOSwmmxW1zK 4

He is a professional ePay flipper folks:
Vintage Sales and Restorations

big-coupe (http://www.ebay.com/usr/big-coupe?rt=nc) (3114 (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=big-coupe&rt=nc) )100%

[Wagner]

I thought this was a place for free advice

That would be "google" and or the public library, maybe an "old school" barber shop if you can still find one...............

THIS is a place for JBL collectors and hobbyists, folks with a mutual interest/appreciation for an icon of Audio

My advice? Show a little respect. Just because it's on the "interweb" doesn't make something yours to use as you please

But just in case you missed it, from your "For Sale" thread, I'm posting it here too for your convenience!:


I am offering for sale a pair of JBL 4341 Studio Monitors
I know, I saw them on ePay

The serial numbers are sequential if that matters to anyone.
It doesn't

The drivers are shown in the pictures I am attaching - The woofers could both use re-foaming.
Yes, they are and yes they do

The cabinets are in fair shape
Fairly ragged

Please look at the pictures and feel free to ask questions as you see fit.
How long have you been trying to off these on ePay? With a starting bid of ONLY $4,999.99 + Shipping (to be determined)?

Asking $4000.
You are dreaming

Here we are offering a pair of the incredible Vintage JBL 4341 Studio Monitors. These carry sequential serial numbers and have all the original internal components in good order. Grilles and Lenses for the horns are not included. Some cabinet dings and scratches but very good overall - woofers could use new foam surrounds - but that is a cheap and easy job for the new owner.
And again, I agree, incredible; why even go through the rigmarole?:

Thomas Wagner

[Challenger604]

That would be "google" and or the public library, maybe an "old school" barber shop if you can still find one...............

THIS is a place for JBL collectors and hobbyists, folks with a mutual interest/appreciation for an icon of Audio

My advice? Show a little respect. Just because it's on the "interweb" doesn't make something yours to use as you please

But just in case you missed it, from your "For Sale" thread, I'm posting it here too for your convenience!:


I know, I saw them on ePay

It doesn't

Yes, they are and yes they do

Fairly ragged

How long have you been trying to off these on ePay? With a starting bid of ONLY $4,999.99 + Shipping (to be determined)?

You are dreaming

And again, I agree, incredible; why even go through the rigmarole?:

Thomas Wagner

Very well said Thomas!!

[Vahe Sahakian]

I do not know if this is a problem, but the pair in thatpicture are not left/right mirror image, personally I would be a bit concernedabout getting a pair with identical driver orientation.

Vahe

[Big-Coupe]

Never ceases to amaze me; that you can sign up here and go right to work peddling your crap with a "0" post count/zero history of contributing anything, information, assistance, help, insight, "how to", a cash contribution or otherwise, NOTHING.
All you need is a keyboard and a :bs: story:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-JBL-PROFESSIONAL-MODEL-4341-STUDIO-MONITORS-GOOD-COND-SEQUENTIAL-SNs-/301887046762?hash=item4649dec46a:g:NUIAAOSwmmxW1zK 4

He is a professional ePay flipper folks:
Vintage Sales and Restorations

big-coupe (http://www.ebay.com/usr/big-coupe?rt=nc) (3114 (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=big-coupe&rt=nc) )100%



So you consider these monitors crap?

Some members might be interested - besides just throwing rocks...

I do sell things on eBay (see my 100% positive rating?) Trying to help a widow get some money for her husbands monitors...

Cheers.

Jeff

[Big-Coupe]

That would be "google" and or the public library, maybe an "old school" barber shop if you can still find one...............

THIS is a place for JBL collectors and hobbyists, folks with a mutual interest/appreciation for an icon of Audio

My advice? Show a little respect. Just because it's on the "interweb" doesn't make something yours to use as you please

But just in case you missed it, from your "For Sale" thread, I'm posting it here too for your convenience!:


I know, I saw them on ePay

It doesn't

Yes, they are and yes they do

Fairly ragged

How long have you been trying to off these on ePay? With a starting bid of ONLY $4,999.99 + Shipping (to be determined)?

You are dreaming

And again, I agree, incredible; why even go through the rigmarole?:

Thomas Wagner

The fact that this is a forum for those who appreciate and have knowledge about these products is the reason that I came here - to both reach people who might be interested, and to look for suggestions and advise about how to find a customer for the widow of the owner.

I don't think that I have been disrespectful - but I certainly have received my share of snarky remarks from you Mr. Wagner.

Trying to do a good deed here.

jeff

[grumpy]

Kinda have to wade through the weeds here.

Regardless of why the sale, they need a fair amount of refurbishment and will
likely sell if this is accounted for. Harsh as it may sound, something like 2K may be
a reasonable offer/value. Not low enough to pique my interest personally (as I have more
projects than brains right now) but perhaps for someone with time/skills/$$$ on
their hands to see a refurb through.

Hope they sell soon, so the primary beneficiary can move on.

[Wagner]

I do have extensive knowledge about speakers - and selling used audio equipment as well - just looking for suggestions for the best forum to find people who might enjoy these - selling them to help a widow out.

Cheers.

Jeff
Well, you stumbled across the right place!

Got some JBLs that need sellin' and found the Lansing Heritage site!

How's THAT for lucky?!

Word's Out!

Mission Accomplished!

Good luck with your efforts!

Thomas Wagner

[JeffW]

So you consider these monitors crap?

Some members might be interested - besides just throwing rocks...

I do sell things on eBay (see my 100% positive rating?) Trying to help a widow get some money for her husbands monitors...

Cheers.

Jeff

Read back to one of my earlier posts - I pretty much guaranteed that this guy would show up. There's an ignore button, but I just trained myself to ignore him without using the board software.


Ignore the inevitable replies from posters obviously just looking to stir the pot

[Wagner]

I do not know if this is a problem, but the pair in thatpicture are not left/right mirror image, personally I would be a bit concernedabout getting a pair with identical driver orientation.

Vahe

Not 100% sure, but 99.9999% anyway, that the 4341 wasn't available in true mirrored pairs - but you can see provision is made to move the 2405s as needed

Thomas

[BMWCCA]

My advice? Show a little respect. Just because it's on the "interweb" doesn't make something yours to use as you please

Fairly ragged

How long have you been trying to off these on ePay? With a starting bid of ONLY $4,999.99 + Shipping (to be determined)?

You are dreaming

And again, I agree, incredible; why even go through the rigmarole?:

Wagner's back! It was fun while it lasted.

The OP does have a 100% feedback rating on ebay with over 3,000 transactions. Why not cut him some slack? Looks like he's actually producing NLA parts for vintage BMW bikes. That's a worthwhile mission in my world. Could be he's really trying to do a service for someone else, as I was before Wagner unloaded on my thread. The recipient of my assistance is very appreciative, even if I had to sell his stuff elsewhere due to the unmitigated thread-crap from our friend Wagner I experienced here.

Once again, the troll drops in, dumps his load, then leaves another destroyed thread in his wake. My apology for your reception here, Mr. Big-Coupe. If you'd dropped in a week ago he'd have been on "vacation" and we'd have been spared the drivel.

While I don't agree with the value you put on these given their condition, I won't give you a bunch of crap over it. Good luck with the sale.
So, what's the "big coupe" refer to?

[Wagner]

The recipient of my assistance is very appreciative, even if I had to sell his stuff elsewhere due to the unmitigated thread-crap from our friend Wagner I experienced here.
How did you know how long I was suspended for?

Better yet, how did you know at all?

Once again, this is why I have campaigned for making Marketplace a "no post" zone. Don't need all the back stories and superfluous commentary to sell something
- i.e.: a CLASSIFIED AD doesn't need to be, or involve into a "thread"

But please explain to me and the World how ANYTHING I posted prevented you from selling in the Lansing Heritage Site Marketplace and forced you to do so elsewhere.

I eagerly await and look forward to receiving your response!

PM is fine for this conversation

Thomas Wagner

[BMWCCA]

But please explain to me and the World how ANYTHING I posted prevented you from selling in the Lansing Heritage Site Marketplace and forced you to do so elsewhere.

The fact that you even have to ask is truly disturbing. But, since you did . . .

Simple. You crapped all over the thread, using post after post to answer your own accusations and comments, sucking all the air out of the environment for anyone just stopping in to view the thread. You make this hobby for many of us here unbearable, you ruin the fun, and take the tone into the gutter. Do you also have your own failed casino, failed steak brand, or bogus university bearing your name?

This thread is not about you, or me, so please help put it back on topic. :banghead:

[Ian Mackenzie]

Okay here is an idea.

Let's start a fund raiser (crowd) and buy the them and restore them,

Assuming the seller accepts what we have raised in a certain period of time there is no argument .

If not we can donate the funds to the forums.

We could then sell them and donate the proceeds either way or pass them around for member use.

That should resolve the PR issues.

[mech986]

I do not know if this is a problem, but the pair in that picture are not left/right mirror image, personally I would be a bit concerned about getting a pair with identical driver orientation.

Vahe


None of these large format monitors came explicitly in mirror imaged pairs. However, as you can see, the baffle board has options to move the 2405 slot tweeter from side to side to accomplish a mirroring. The 4350/55 had provisions for both the slot and midrange horns to be moved side to side around the midrange 12" driver. Some of the monitors even had a rotatable upper baffle for vertical or horizontal placements.

As for the value, more would be helpful in knowing if the tweeter or horn diaphragms are original. The lack of grilles and acoustic lenses brings down the value a bit as they would need to be sourced or made. The cabinet veneer shows obvious signs of use, sun fade, and/or staining due to plants/vases, water. The one damaged corner looks like a possible fall or moving damage with a seam split, and would likely need moderate repair work. For some, the cabinets would best be structurally repaired to match, then re-veneered.

Still, a nice looking set needing some TLC. Glad they are in SoCal, would have some interest if the price was right. For me, would not be hard to transport them if they are in Corona, only about 40 minutes from my house. If the forum want's to collectively buy them, I'll be happy to fetch them and store them, then we could work on how to get them re-done. I vote for Zonker92.

[speakerdave]

None of these large format monitors came explicitly in mirror imaged pairs . . . .

I think they started doing with the 4344/4345.