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Wagner
08-14-2015, 04:04 PM
A member posted some photos in an old? older? thread I came across a while back in which he demonstrated the fact that he went to great lengths to salvage and re-stuff the original cardboard tubes (the ones with the sand and wax)

I am in the middle of an L100 re-cap and want to do the same

If anyone remembers or knows of that thread, please provide me the link; I'd like to see the photos

I've successfully salvaged and cleaned my old tubes (now THAT was a labor of love!) but would like to see some details before I melt out the wax

Thank you!

SEAWOLF97
08-14-2015, 04:36 PM
this sites search function is very weak. Better to go to Advanced search on Google
and do their search only within http://www.audioheritage.org/

Much faster and more reliable.

Wagner
08-14-2015, 05:17 PM
this sites search function is very weak. Better to go to Advanced search on Google
and do their search only within http://www.audioheritage.org/

Much faster and more reliable.
I've searched it every way I could think of
Plenty of hits talking about them, but no luck on that specific thread
Can't remember the damn model being worked on, although I think it might have been an L100 thread (and not certain if it was just a re-cap thread or a museum quality restoration)

Tried a dozen "google" image searches too, again plenty if pictures but no cigar

This thread was a last resort

I'll survive/manage without it, but those detailed photos would be a big help

How have you been? My Son had to play "Amazing Grace" (trumpet) for a KIA Special Forces Soldier last week (First Sergeant); he wanted Taps played on bagpipes when the time came; lot of fun finding a pipes player in Afghanistan but they did it!

Earl K
08-15-2015, 05:14 AM
This is the only one that I was able to find.

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=52915&stc=1&d=1316282735 (http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?31778)


That's a nice bit of (web-site) archaeology.

:)

Wagner
08-15-2015, 08:41 AM
That's a nice bit of (web-site) archaeology.

:)

Thank you for that shot, but unfortunately it's not the one I am looking for (not 100% sure who I am supposed to be thanking, "4313B" or "Earl K")
In the photos I seek, there is one showing the sand that has been poured out and the caps removed (not requiring the vise grips)
I spent a lot of time saving the originals intact; I can now hold them in my hand and they are nice and clean (that glue is a bitch) the print is nice and clean and they're not sticky
I'd like to re-stuff them, but not if I have to manhandle them or maul them up

May just have to give up on it and stick them (the new caps) on the board with the standard zip tie method

The nice thing about the cardboard tubes with the long leads is that the layout has already been done and the hook-up's a breeze (that and the retention of the original "aesthetic" of the "network :) " identification

Generally, I won't tear up original networks, but in this case I was hoping to have the best of both worlds, especially in light of the fact that even with the L100's "two cap special" you still have to remove your foilcal and do all the tedious touch up/clean up that goes with it

This is a very nice "survivor" pair

pos
08-15-2015, 08:49 AM
Maybe that one?
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?31778-Recap-your-crossovers-Keep-that-factory-look-and-feel

Wagner
08-15-2015, 11:51 AM
Maybe that one?
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?31778-Recap-your-crossovers-Keep-that-factory-look-and-feel

That's the one!
I was in the process of using that photo provided above as a search criteria (is part of this, the correct thread), but the wife needed this machine

A very sincere collective thanks to all of you who spent time to help me find this

Thank you very much gentlemen!

Wagner
08-15-2015, 06:45 PM
Thanks to all!
After viewing the photos (and expecting the task to be much worse/messier than it turned out to be) I successfully emptied my tubes, salvaging everything nicely intact
Will make this network refresh so much nicer as well as authentic (I know, I'm a weirdo that way)
Even retained the wax plugs up top; will go back in nicely and re-flow well with a touch of the heat gun

Between this project and perfecting a technique to deal with tar filled network boxes and Philco Bakelite block condensers, I think I've just abut won the title of "How to Waste Time and Make a Job Last as Long as Is Humanely Possible"

But it sure is satisfying (and looks better too once it's all back together, even though no one well ever see them again)! :yes:

If anyone else is contemplating the possibility of re-stuffing these, allow me to share an insight. Although JBL tended to LATHER these things into place with glue, one of my cabs had caps that had come "un-glued"............same with one of my port tubes as well (and it definitely was not for the lack of glue) the color and feel of it had changed from old age (and obviously it's ability to provide adhesion).....................so, whatever this glue is, it will out gas and let go with time

Remove them entirely and remove all the old glue; that's what I get to waste more time on now, deciding how I want to re-attach them to the network board! :)
After all of this :bs: I feel like using pads and zip ties now would be cheating :)