Who would you hang ...

[SEAWOLF97]

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with for a day (from the audio world - either production/design/theory/tech) ... to experience/learn what you could from that person ? why ?

I was going to say "pick one" , but that's not really possible ..so limit to 5 or so.

Was thinking about my own answer to this question and came up with

George Martin , the Beatles producer ..he really shaped it. So much to learn from him.
George Harrison , in addition to guitar , he was an amateur race driver. some beers and a fun day.
Thomlinson Holman ...THX , I read his manual on my AptHolman preamp and he has an interesting and informative style that was enjoyable. So much to learn there.
Edgar Villchur ...incredibly smart audio inventor. One of the pioneers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Villchur

Am sure that many other names will pop up as this gets thought out further ...

Who would you ? :dont-know:

[Mr. Widget]

James Martini: aka James B. Lansing
Paul Klipsch
Rudy Bozak
Dr. Amar Bose

[DavidF]

Thomas Edison. My Grandfather worked at Menlo Park for a time and had some interesting stories about the experience and about the man (he didn't work with Edison but he was still around).

Paul Klipsch. varied interests, a true contrarian with a sense of humor.

Tom Dowd. As with George Martin, he as access to so much inside knowledge of some of the seminal music of my generation. Also, he has access to some cool audio toys.

E. H. Scott of the 20's and 30's (not the later-to-com H. H. Scott). His company was tagged the "Stradivarius of Radio" and he was another eccentric with a desire for perfection. He produced equipment without peer in the 30's.

[SEAWOLF97]

Thomas Edison. My Grandfather worked at Menlo Park for a time and had some interesting stories about the experience and about the man (he didn't work with Edison but he was still around). .

IF I thought that comprehension was remotely possible, my answer would have been
Nikola Tesla. :o:

PBS ran a show that featured the AC\DC (no, not the group) standards wars between NT & TE. Fascinating story. Edison played a bit dirty in that one.

BUT, then Tesla mutilated his manhood so not to be distracted from his work by women. :eek:

Wow, talk about dedication .... :crying:

[martin2395]

My first choice would be Nikola Tesla, for sure.

The other 4(in no particular order) would 've been:

- Bob Carver
- Dan D'Agostino
- Greg Timbers
- Nelson Pass

[SEAWOLF97]

My first choice would be Nikola Tesla, for sure.

The other 4(in no particular order) would 've been:

- Bob Carver
- Dan D'Agostino
- Greg Timbers
- Nelson Pass

I have a friend who DID hang out with Bob Carver for a day.

He bought a pair of Carver Amazing speakers that had an issue. somehow he found Bob's email address and asked abt them. Carver lives just up the coast about 150 miles and replied "bring them on up, we'll fix them" ... He did, they did. Spent the day in his garage and even had lunch.
Bob even autographed them when they were repaired.

[Horn Fanatic]

Harry Olson, who put theory into practice.

Don Keele, who is our last living legend.

Don Davis, who put in practice the works of Wallace Sabine.

Vincent Salmon, who gave us the hyperbolic equation.

A. Neville Thiele and Richard Small for publishing loud speaker design parameters which were once the domain of acoustical engineers and physicists.

The genius Paul Klipsch has already been mentioned.

Wente, Thuras, Bostwick, Blattner...

The list is endless!

[Horn Fanatic]

I have a friend who DID hang out with Bob Carver for a day.

He bought a pair of Carver Amazing speakers that had an issue. somehow he found Bob's email address and asked abt them. Carver lives just up the coast about 150 miles and replied "bring them on up, we'll fix them" ... He did, they did. Spent the day in his garage and even had lunch.
Bob even autographed them when they were repaired.

Bob Carver? Great engineer, lousy driver. He made an illegal left turn in front of me a few years ago as he was pulling into the Sunfire parking lot, and nearly caused me to T-bone his car. I honked, he got out of his car, waved and smiled. I smiled back, gave him the bird, and proceeded on my way. LoL!

[DavidF]

IF I thought that comprehension was remotely possible, my answer would have been
Nikola Tesla. :o:

PBS ran a show that featured the AC\DC (no, not the group) standards wars between NT & TE. Fascinating story. Edison played a bit dirty in that one.

BUT, then Tesla mutilated his manhood so not to be distracted from his work by women. :eek:

Wow, talk about dedication .... :crying:

Tesla was all about science with a brilliant mind. Yes, way over my head. Edison was much more of a practical thinker, more with what I could relate to. But, yeah, likely still way over my head. From what I have of his personality you could as likely want to choke him at some point as not, at any given moment. Still he had a group of clever and creative people working around him for many years and there was something in the works at all times.

[Ducatista47]

In audio?

Harry Nyquist. The Tesla and the Edison of audio, and data handling, and a whole lot more, he really contributed on that level. A theoetical genius who was so practical that he didn't bother to prove many of his developments. All he cared about was that they could be used to create almost everything that mattered in audio and signal transmission and reproduction. Decades later others would come up with the proofs, and prove it all they did. Nothing has been refuted, to my knowledge. The torrent of hardware that flooded from Bell Labs and Western Electric was the direct application of his ideas.

Alexander Graham Bell. Come on.

Jim Lansing, certainly.

Nelson Pass. I use his stuff every day, and chances are it sounds at least as good as your stuff.

Alan Kimmel. The other amplifier design engineer I most respect. I have had a phone conversation with him and limitted correspondence, but we have never met in person. He is an incredibly nice man.

Jerry Moro. I want to know how the hell he came up with the low distortion transducer designs for JBL. Given ​what Mr. Lansing did for the design and manufacture of speakers, I consider Moro the bearer of his legacy.

Greg Timbers. I don't have to explain here, just jump on the bandwagon.

And, the guys at Stax in Japan, and the JVC crew who came up with the K2 system for XRCD. And any Japanese mastering engineer who has ever used it.

Jim Anderson. He records Patricia Barber, and others.

Todd Garfinkle, musician and MA records in the flesh. I met him this year, but a day would be great, especially a recording remote day. Why? Listen to his recordings...

I am not entirely saddened by not being able to hang with Tesla because I did get to spend a half day with R Buckminster Fuller. How could I complain?

But I would so much more wish to hang with the musicians I consider the most accomplished.

[SEAWOLF97]

I am not entirely saddened by not being able to hang with Tesla because I did get to spend a half day with R Buckminster Fuller. How could I complain?

Whoaa ...thanx for the memory jog. I went to one of Bucky's lectures at UCSB on my father's recommendation (1967 or 8) . Dad said that this will be the most brilliant guy you'll ever meet. I was just a HS senior. His presentation was comprehensible to me ( I was smart back then) , and seemed like the same stuff that I was reading in the Popular Science mag predictions.

Lasers ? Holography ? Holograms ? Even the famous high speed milk droplet. ;)

Don't know how I ever forgot that night, except that it just preceded a tumultuous personal period. Wonder what else I've forgotten :dont-know:


Ray Dolby too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Dolby

I DID NOT realize that he invented the VTR and was born right here in PDX. Don't recall the mention of his passing, just last year....

[1audiohack]

Starting with famous dead guys:

Richard C Heyser, a JPL senior staff scientist and audio guy who in 1967 created a super hetrodyned audio measurement devise that allowed for complex acoustical measurements in the presence of noise. This system was made portable by Gerald Stanley of Crown Audio and Don Keele at Techron. Richard was a guy who really got it.

Edwin Howard Armstrong, The real creator of audio and RF amplification. Friend of Paul Klipch and a paul bearer of Nicola Tesla. Another guy who really got it.

Harry Nyquist, Human super mind who created a single graph that at once shows the real part, the imaginary part, the magnitude, the phase, the frequency and the identification of minimum and non minimum phase of an acoustical or electrical measurement, in about 1925 if I remember correctly.

Dr Eugene Patronis, Professor emeritus in the school of Physics at Georgia Tech, Atlanta. I don't think there is anything electrical or acoustical that he doesn't understand.

Doug Jones, Professor emeritus Columbia College because he really understands small room acoustics, and a whole bunch of other interesting stuff. Oh and the fact that I really like him.

Don Davis, Who while at Altec created RTA with his own money commissioning HP to build it for him when the genius's at Altec decided it would be of no benefit. And a whole lot more. The last time I talked to Don, we just talked about road racing.

Tom Danley, because he is a true pioneer in our time, and is a lot of fun to be around.

Jerry Morro, because he know the answers to all my transducer questions and is a nice guy.

Greg Timbers, because he knows all the answers to my integration questions, and is a nice guy too.

You said five or so, so,, :D

Barry.

[Ducatista47]

My appologies to Jerry Morro for apparently leaving an "r" out of his name. I only saw it in print once, some years ago. And I am no longer a great speller. My further regrets for listing double the suggested number of luminariies.

As for Mr. Fuller, I feel the need to mention that he was almost certainly one of he greatest and widest ranging thinkers of his century. The portrait painted of him by the press didn't even touch him, and up close and personal it was obvious that he was in a league of his own. One of his greatest strengths was to effortlessly answer important questions that no one else even thought of asking. He was also a master of integrating pretty much everything, and to great practical effect. There is a reason why synergy is a word most closely associared with him.

The night before, in a massed assembly of an entire college, he stopped talking and looked up at no place in particular for perhaps half a minute, completely motionless. Most of the audience, who gave him their complete silence by the way, began to think he had forgotten what to say next. His resumption was otherwise normal, and the next day, upon closer observation of how he moved through time, I realized that he had needed to do some very big thinking about something which had just occured to him and couldn't wait for later. I have to wonder how many of those present ever realized what a once in a lifetime moment they had witnessed. Not exactly a Jersey Shore cast member puzzling over nail polish colors.

At the risk of complete paralizing reader boredom, I should explain that while Fuller's writing was precise but dense by ordinary standards, his in person explainations were lucid and immediately comprehensible. As an example, when asked questions he would explain that he felt obligated to give the best, most complete answer he was capable of. In our tiny group in a tiny auditorium the next day (in the engineering building), when asked a simple question about a particular geometric solid's property, he gave a precise and simple answer. That was from a know it all math professor with a big ego trying to trip him up. When asked an intelligent guestion about geometric relationships he gave a two hour answer in which he blackboarded his entire, nearly, developed ideas involving geometric relationships and their bearing on the question. In other words, he shared with all eight or ten of us the entire development and implications of his work with mathematics relating to geometry. If only it had been filmed. The way he presented it from the ground up, any reasonably intelligent second year high school math student would have understood everything.

And what ideas. Remembering him as the inventor of the geodesic dome and a few tinkered odds and ends in like reporting the Titanic disaster as iceberg one ship zero. Given the societal and ecological implications of his work, such shorrt shrift is throwing away a gigantic, incredible gift.

I guess I used to be smart back in those days too. Damned old age.

[Doctor_Electron]

Drew Daniels

[Mannermusic]

Drew Daniels

Yes! Would have loved to work on the Saturn V launch simulation project at Epcot Disney Land in Fl. Even had a place to stay.

[SEAWOLF97]

Whoaa ...thanx for the memory jog. I went to one of Bucky's lectures at UCSB on my father's recommendation (1967 or 8) . Dad said that this will be the most brilliant guy you'll ever meet. I was just a HS senior. His presentation was comprehensible to me ( I was smart back then) , and seemed like the same stuff that I was reading in the Popular Science mag predictions..




As for Mr. Fuller, I feel the need to mention that he was almost certainly one of he greatest and widest ranging thinkers of his century. The portrait painted of him by the press didn't even touch him, and up close and personal it was obvious that he was in a league of his own. .

Don't just take our recommendations on "Bucky" , check what the world says about him , tho he never graduated from college.

Richard Buckminster "Bucky" Fuller was an American neo-futuristic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Futurism) architect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architect), systems theorist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_theorist), author, designer, and inventor.

Fuller entered Harvard University in 1913, but he was expelled after excessively socializing and missing his midterm exams. Following his expulsion, he worked at a mill in Canada, where he took a strong interest in machinery and learned to modify and improve the manufacturing equipment. Fuller returned to Harvard in the autumn of 1915 but was again dismissed.

Throughout his life, Fuller found numerous outlets for his innovative ideas. During the early 1930s he published Shelter magazine, and from 1938 until 1940 he was science and technology consultant for Fortune magazine. During the 1940s he began to teach and lecture at universities, including Harvard and MIT, and in the late 1950s he became a professor at Southern Illinois University (SIU), where he and his wife lived in a geodesic dome when he was in residence. In 1972 he was named World Fellow in Residence to a consortium of universities in Philadelphia, including the University of Pennsylvania. He retained his connection with both SIU and the University of Pennsylvania until his death. He was the author of nearly 30 books, and he spent much of his life traveling the world lecturing and discussing his ideas with thousands of audiences. Some of Fuller's many honors highlight his eclectic reputation: For example, because he sometimes expressed complex ideas in verse to make them more understandable, in 1961 he received a one-year appointment to the prestigious Charles Eliot Norton Professorship of Poetry at Harvard. After being spurned early in his career by the architecture and construction establishments, Fuller was later recognized with many major architectural, scientific, industrial, and design awards, both in the United States and abroad, and he received 47 honorary doctorate degrees. In 1983, shortly before his death, he received the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor, with a citation acknowledging that his "contributions as a geometrician, educator, and architect-designer are benchmarks of accomplishment in their fields."

After Fullers death, when chemists discovered that the atoms of a recently discovered carbon molecule were arrayed in a structure similar to a geodesic dome, they named the molecule "buckminsterfullerene."



https://bfi.org/about-fuller/biography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller

too bad that he was so busy, that audio did not come up on his radar. :blink:

[4313B]

George Harrison , in addition to guitar , he was an amateur race driver. some beers and a fun day.

Who would you ? :dont-know: Justin Bieber.
Kanye West.


Who would you hang with?I'd say Katy Perry, but I prefer everything about Zoey Deschanel. Maybe both of them. :dont-know:

[1audiohack]

Justin Bieber,Kanye West.[QUOTE]

If I ever saw either of them in a cross walk I would have a serious moral dilemma on my hands.


[QUOTE=4313B;367182]
I'd say Katy Perry, but I prefer everything about Zoey Deschanel. Maybe both of them. :dont-know:

That might not be so bad. :)

[grumpy]

lol...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A939QRRSNV4

[Mr. Widget]

Well now this thread is getting interesting! :D


Widget

[hjames]

lol...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A939QRRSNV4

Its worth it for Morgan Freeman on a pole ...

[rockin'rushmore]

With out him....well where would all that greasy electric stuff come from!:bouncy:

[SEAWOLF97]

Justin Bieber,Kanye West.

>>If I ever saw either of them in a cross walk I would have a serious moral dilemma on my hands.


I'm getting rather tired of the angry credit card TV hustler too

http://www.americanbanker.com/people/capital-one-cleans-up-samuel-jackson-ad-after-damning-criticism-1063293-1.html

and Alex Baldwin together in a crosswalk ... slide sideways ?

enough venting .. lets get back on topic...I had learned some things here until latest posts.

[tesla]

Nikola Tesla gets my vote also. Practically our whole word-wide society is based on his inventions helped by Westinghouse and strangely enough, Marconi. Why Marconi? Even though he stole virtually everything he did from Tesla, he did help to commercialize Radio, something that Tesla seemed not to care about.

Richard Feynman

Need I say more?

My Father one last time. (he died about a month ago and was a mechanical engineer, and fantastic human being. I will be forever indebted to him.


IF I thought that comprehension was remotely possible, my answer would have been
Nikola Tesla. :o:

PBS ran a show that featured the AC\DC (no, not the group) standards wars between NT & TE. Fascinating story. Edison played a bit dirty in that one.

BUT, then Tesla mutilated his manhood so not to be distracted from his work by women. :eek:

Wow, talk about dedication .... :crying:

[Nick Danger]

Wouldn't mind hanging with Seigfried Linkwitz. (http://www.linkwitzlab.com/about_me.htm) His room may have been my fav at RMAF 2014 this year.

[LowPhreak]

Eddie Kramer, Bob Ludwig, Greg Calbi - all great recording engineers.

GT - well he has a big bandwagon to haul around. Add one more body to it.

Eric Paiste, Toomas Paiste - I was a drummer in a former life. I am still amazed at what they come up with.

There are so many, hard to pick just 5 or so.

[hjames]

WTF is an R Kelly and why should I care about such behaviour?
Hanging with such folks sounds like HS blotto time ...
Mic full of ass sounds pretty classless to me ... like peeing in the milkshake mix ...



A lot of you have mentioned famous acousticians which is cool.
I've hung with a few acousticians and they speak in a language of their own. Their vocabulary is in psychics and math and way over my head.

I get a kick out of the old road dogs. They've worked with everyone and the behind the scenes stories are great.

I remember riding to a gig with a monitor guy who had just gotten done with a R Kelly tour.
He said every night right before he'd hand Kelly his mic he would shove it down the back of his pants and rub it in his crack. Priceless...

[SEAWOLF97]

Who would you hang ...
with for a day (from the audio world - either production/design/theory/tech) ... to experience/learn what you could from that person ? why ?





Mic full of ass sounds pretty classless to me ... like peeing in the milkshake mix ...

maybe that's who he wants to experience/learn what he could ... from that person ?

(as per thread premise )

maybe sticking a mic down your pants is difficult ? worthy ? a valuable skill ? :dont-know:



A lot of you have mentioned famous acousticians which is cool. I've hung with a few acousticians and they speak in a language of their own. Their vocabulary is in psychics and math and way over my head.

ASSUME you got words confused ??

A psychic is a person who claims to use extrasensory perception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrasensory_perception) (ESP) to identify information hidden from the normal senses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense),

Physics (from Ancient Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek): φυσική (ἐπιστήμη) phusikḗ (epistḗmē) “knowledge of nature”, from φύσις phúsis "nature"[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics#cite_note-etymonline-physics-1)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics#cite_note-etymonline-physic-2)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics#cite_note-LSJ-3)) is the natural science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_science) that involves the study of matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics#cite_note-feynmanleightonsands1963-atomic-4) and its motion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_(physics)) through space and time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime), along with related concepts such as energy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy) and force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force).

[ratitifb]

Don't forget Rice and Kellogg without whom JBL (and others...) would not be what he is ;)

[SEAWOLF97]

Don't just take our recommendations on "Bucky" , check what the world says about him , tho he never graduated from college.

We Got Buckminster Fuller's FBI File

http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/we-got-buckminster-fullers-fbi-file-1704777475

[hsosdrum]

Coming late to this thread...

I'd definitely like to hang with the gang at Bell Labs who conceived and executed the Symposium on Auditory Perspective in 1933 (Fletcher, Snow, Wente, Thuras, etc.). These guys were truly venturing out into the great audio unknown, and their work formed the basis for multi-channel audio reproduction with a goal of reproducing sound that appears to exist in dimensional space. Here's the result of their work: (www.aes.org/aeshc/docs/bell.labs/auditoryperspective.pdf). It's fascinating reading, and something everyone interested in audio reproduction should be familiar with.

[Doctor_Electron]

As a friend of his caregiver I had the opportunity to visit with James Bongiorno.

I wasn't worthy. Not much to say to such an icon. We do miss him.

-D_E-

[SEAWOLF97]

,
a place.

Xerox PARC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_(company)

PARC (Palo Alto Research Center Incorporated), formerly Xerox PARC, is a research and development company in Palo Alto, California,[1][2][3] with a distinguished reputation for its contributions to information technology and hardware systems.[citation needed]

Founded in 1970 as a division of Xerox Corporation, PARC has been in large part responsible for such developments as laser printing, Ethernet, the modern personal computer, graphical user interface (GUI) and desktop paradigm, object-oriented programming, ubiquitous computing, amorphous silicon (a-Si) applications, and advancing very-large-scale integration (VLSI) for semiconductors.

[Theopholis]

Alan Parsons
Les Paul
Captain Crossover (an old coworker who was a demon at designing speaker systems).
David Gilmore
Nikolai Tesla

[hsosdrum]

Speaking about people we actually did hang with, back in 1979 I was extremely fortunate to have a private lunch with Paul W. Klipsch when he was in L.A. to accept his AES Silver Medal. (It was arranged by the So. Cal. Klipsch rep, who was a good friend of mine.)

Of course I peppered him with questions and he answered every one of them. (I remember asking him how large the Klipschorn woofer horn would be if it was free-standing and not folded, and he took out his notebook and drew the horn by building the exponential horn expansion sections from memory. BTW, the mouth would be about 6' by 6.5' and the horn length would be about 7'). At that time Klipsch had just introduced the original 3-way 3-piece version of the MCM professional speaker system (which featured a large W-bin woofer, a large straight exponential midrange horn and an array of Motorola piezos as well as an optional passive crossover), and Paul told me that with the passive crossover the speaker system measured flatter than any other speaker the company had made up to that time. He also regaled me with stories about his adventures countering all the audio "Bullshit" that prevailed in the 60s and 70s (and gave me a yellow "Bullshit" button). I also asked him which of his achievements he was most proud of and he said it was the work he did measuring intermodulation distortion in speakers and correlating that with perceived sound quality.

I will never forget how gracious he was in putting up with my being such a fan-boy. It was a day I'll always remember with much fondness and appreciation.