Looking for the great JBL 4425/4430

[CasperNL]

Hello there!

This is my first post on this forum and I hope it is in the right subdirectory.
Last weeks I have been mixing in a studio with a lot of vintage gear and monitoring on the 4430's,
The reference of the monitors was very clear and objective and I really liked it.
Because the speakers were made a couple of years ago ;) they are not really sold around here (NL).
Does anyone here has these speakers and is willing to sell them? I am very interested and thankful.

Thanks in advance!
Casper

[stephane RAME]

The 4430 was manufactured from 1981 to 1995.
The Woofer is a 2235H
The compression drivers are depending on the year of 2421H, 2425H or 2426H
The horn is a 2344 or 2344A
http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Studio%20Monitor%20Series/4430LR.pdf

Stéphane

[honkytonkwillie]

Welcome to the audioheritage forums.

There's usually a pair for sale somewhere on the planet at any given time. Here's a pair in the Los Angeles area. http://www.ebay.com/itm/251615132484 But that's kind of inconvenient.

I found another pair listed that's probably close enough to pick up with your bicycle (http://bonjourbruxelles.blogspot.com/2011/08/introducing-dutch-cargo-bike.html). Check your private messages.

62888

You might have to make two trips though.

[CasperNL]

Hello Stephane,

Thanks for you message but I think you read my post wrong, I'm not looking for the tech details, but for a pair to be sold near me ;)

Casper


The 4430 was manufactured from 1981 to 1995.
The Woofer is a 2235H
The compression drivers are depending on the year of 2421H, 2425H or 2426H
The horn is a 2344 or 2344A
http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Studio Monitor Series/4430LR.pdf

Stéphane

[CasperNL]

Thanks for both tips!
Maybe the Ebay link is going to do it!

Casper


Welcome to the audioheritage forums.

There's usually a pair for sale somewhere on the planet at any given time. Here's a pair in the Los Angeles area. http://www.ebay.com/itm/251615132484 But that's kind of inconvenient.

I found another pair listed that's probably close enough to pick up with your bicycle (http://bonjourbruxelles.blogspot.com/2011/08/introducing-dutch-cargo-bike.html). Check your private messages.

62888

You might have to make two trips though.

[martin2395]

There is a pair of 4425's on Ebay.de now but they ask a lot, €1499:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/JBL-4425-Top-Klassiker-von-JBL-/251597443025?pt=DE_Lautsprecher_Martin&hash=item3a94604fd1

The Frenchies want €1999:
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/TRES-RARE-ENCEINTES-HIFI-AUDIOPHILE-OU-MONITORS-STUDIO-JBL-4425-SUPER-VINTAGE-/140997029641?pt=FR_Image_Son_Hifi_Son_Enceintes&hash=item20d413ef09

I bet I saw them going for <€1000!

[pos]

IMHO the 4425 is nowhere near the 4430 in any department.

[stephane RAME]

Today you have learned new thing about JBL.

Stéphane

[pos]

Stéphane, are you being sarcastic?
Based on thread title the OP is looking for either a 4425 or 4430, but what he heard and liked was a pair of 4430, and all the links that have been given to him are for 4425 speakers.
Just sayin'...

[martin2395]

They sound similar but the 4430 is just a lot better, simple as that.
The 2214H is not a bad woofer but the 2416H in the 4425 can't touch the 2421/2425.

Seriously I have yet to see a pair of 4430 in the Netherlands(you can make it - Western Europe) and I check for JBL ads daily.

[pos]

I'd say the exact opposite: the 2416H-1 vs 2425H is the only thing comparable between the two speakers ;)

EDIT 2416, thanks Martin

[martin2395]

I assume you know that the 4425 has 2416 ;)

4430 started with 2421A but afaik they switched to 2425 at some point.

[pos]

Yes my bad, that's a typo.

The 2416H-1 has the same diaphragm and phasing plug as a 2425H.
The back chamber is smaller, but I don't think this makes that of a difference.

[martin2395]

Hmm, I had both drivers here but the 2425 just felt so much better :D

[badman]

My understanding is that the 2416 has a smaller back cup, and no bolt-on snout for mounting that way, and that's it for the differences. The smaller back cup made it more suitable for systems using smaller horns with higher cutoff frequencies, trading 500-1000hz efficiency for 1000-1500 (rough approximations).

[CasperNL]

Thanks for the new info guys.
Just let you know that Im still on my journey.
Have an offer of 4425's in good shape in Germany for 1500 euro.
I think this is a bit too much but maybe there is a deal with a good amp.

Also I received very strange deals for 2500 in serbia and other possible scams.

[martin2395]

Yes Casper, be very careful when you place an search ad.
Even in the Netherlands I found out that actually all the people that responded to my ad were scammers! (I was looking for a pair of 2450J's and a BSS EPC poweramp by then) :banghead:

€1500 is steep for 4425's. Take your time and look daily on the web and I bet that you'll find a pair soon.

[macaroonie]

Quicker than that Martin

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JBL-4425-Studio-Monitors-passive-/251607070608?pt=UK_ConElec_SpeakersPASystems_RL&hash=item3a94f33790

[martin2395]

I saw them too, the only problem is that they are 965km away from TS.
When you consider the transportation costs and the condition you might aswell buy the other pair for €1500 in Germany :D

http://puu.sh/b2EzF/1591bc779e.jpg

Casper, send this man an e-mail: http://www.marktplaats.nl/verkopers/9560781.html
He has a few sets of 4425's and I think that he also has two sets of 4435. Maybe he can sell you a pair.
He's a nice guy to deal with, he bought a pair of JBL L100S from me a couple of months ago.

[dezmond]

I like the 2416 , there in my 4652's and mr 835's. Not harsh at all .

[pos]

4430 in France: http://www.leboncoin.fr/image_son/697356041.htm

[martin2395]

Looks like people really get crazy with the prices mr.pos! :dont-know:
This is the price range of 4435 here.

[BMWCCA]

Looks like people really get crazy with the prices mr.pos! :dont-know:
This is the price range of 4435 here.

Asking is one thing. Getting is another.

[martin2395]

Of course, but still - the big 43's and 44's are so scarce in Europe that you only need like 1-2 advertisements to start a chain reaction where people will keep asking such prices.

[CasperNL]

Hi Martin,

Can you give me an email adress of the person you tipped me about?
The Marktplaats link he is not responding to.

Thanks in advance.

[martin2395]

Hi Casper,

I don't have his e-mail address, sorry :(
Marktplaats doesn't show the user's e-mail address anymore, you only see a gibberish address like "[email protected] ([email protected])"
Just give him a call ;)