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Niklas Nord
10-24-2004, 06:22 AM
Hi

Does anybody know a really great recording of some organ-music
where they has been sucessfull in recording the lowest hertz.

This is allright

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000001Q8H/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2_cp/102-8121234-6578539?v=glance&s=classical&n=507846

boputnam
10-26-2004, 10:18 AM
Hey...

Try "Virgil Fox Plays the Wanamaker Grand Court Organ - it has some stunning passages. Some of my favorites.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002QO364/qid=1098807318/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-8350722-3283143?v=glance&s=music&n=507846

Fox was a long-time family friend - and as my mother would say, Fox was a bit "light in the loafers" but a terrific artist and friend. ;)

GordonW
10-26-2004, 10:40 AM
The Saint-Eustache organ piece is good, but IME, if ultra-low pedal tones are desired, NOTHING beats out recordings made of the organ at the Cathedral of St. Philip, that incidentally, is here in Atlanta. Built by AEolian-Skinner in 1962, it's about the last "full rank" big-scale pipe organ installed in the USA, AFAIK. '

One particular recording done there comes immediately to mind- "Encores a la Francaise", on Telarc, with Michael Murray playing the big AE-S organ accompanied by the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra on some pieces. Specifically, the last piece- the Poulenc Organ Concerto in G Minor- has some of the most astounding organ pedal tones ever recorded. Full-gain-level 16 Hz... as in the floor bouncing up and down, the air literally shaking, and such as that. And the piece is REALLY BEAUTIFUL music- it's one of the only classical pieces I'll sit through of that length for ONE MOVEMENT (24 minutes in one single movement)!

Regards,
Gordon.

Niklas Nord
10-26-2004, 02:10 PM
Thank you both, interesting to read about.

I bought theese:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000001Q80/qid=1098462984/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl15/002-0212782-0587265?v=glance&s=classical&n=507846

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000001Q8H/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2_cp/104-1019553-7782323?v=glance&s=classical&n=507846

!!!

Actually, they have alot of information in the 16hz region i can tell.
Also in the booklet I read about this, it realy is a well done recording, both of them.

Art J.
10-27-2004, 10:53 AM
Some notes on Organ Music

The 16 cycle tones on Organs come from a pipe that is
32 feet tall. Most organs do not have them because of
the size and cost. Instead they use Resultant Stops which
are 2 16 foot pipes of different frequencies so you do not
really get 16 cycles. Read link to the bottom.

http://www.dogstar.dantimax.dk/acoustic/acoust-1.htm

I have 50 Organ Cd's and out of all of them, their is only
one I have that has a sustained solo 32 foot pipe passage
in it that can be used for testing. Its the end of the first cut on
Delos DCD 3047 Maurice Durufle Organ. The music may not
be of general liking though, its French Neo-Classic.

Companys like Delos and Telarc jumped at the challenge to
record the Pipe Organ when Cd's made the scene. In the LP
days the Organist was forced to use resultants for recording
to keep the needle on the record and often had to speed up
the tempo to fit the side. CD was the miracle that all Organ
fans hoped for.

GordonW
10-27-2004, 11:14 AM
There is indeed a 32 foot rank at the Cathedral of St. Philip. And it's put to use in the Telarc "Encores a la Francaise"...

Regards,
Gordon.

Art J.
10-27-2004, 12:17 PM
There is indeed a 32 foot rank at the Cathedral of St. Philip. And it's put to use in the Telarc "Encores a la Francaise"...


Telarc "Encores a la Francaise"... is one of my favorites
for demo, everyone likes it. My version is played in Boston
at Symphony Hall. Is their another version?

Edited Post; Im paying it now, its been a while.
I see the Poulenc was recorded in Atlanta. Very Good.
I believe this was the first recording I heard on CD and
made me an instant convert back in the 80's,
I had been buying the
Telarc Direct to Disc (LP's) and now all Organ LP's
are in storage...

Alex Lancaster
10-27-2004, 01:47 PM
For 342 m/s, at 16Hz, You need 10.69 meters, 35, not 32, unless im am not taking something into account.

Art J.
10-27-2004, 03:56 PM
For 342 m/s, at 16Hz, You need 10.69 meters, 35, not 32, unless im am not taking something into account.

32' is a music term that describes 2 octaves below middle C

http://www.ibiblio.org/pipeorgan/Pages/PitchLevels.html

32' C equals C-0 or 16.35 cycles. The actual pipe may be larger in size.

http://www.allchurchsound.com/ACS/pdf/PIANO.pdf

http://www.contrabass.com/pages/frequency.html

Enough music class. Gorden, are you still around? If you know and like the
Organ at St. Philip, you may know the organ at Spivey Hall near you.
It is a favorite of our local hero and celebrity that I see all the time.
Check him and his recordings out. Great demo CD
http://www.pelagosmusic.com/images/triptych.html