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script56
11-30-2013, 08:09 AM
Hello. Just a real quick inquiry about JBL L300. Just wondering if anyone knew all of the original finish colors. Such as oil walnut and anything beyond that. The reason I'm asking is I am wondering if they were ever produced with a black finish from factory

hjames
11-30-2013, 09:27 AM
Hello. Just a real quick inquiry about JBL L300.
Just wondering if anyone knew all of the original finish colors. Such as oil walnut and anything beyond that.
The reason I'm asking is I am wondering if they were ever produced with a black finish from factory

Think the piano black finish and "black ash" finish came much later.

Did you find a pair in black finish, or do you want a pair in a Black finish?

script56
11-30-2013, 10:03 AM
Found a black pair. Looks original like yamaha ns1000 look

hjames
11-30-2013, 10:23 AM
Its not original, I can see the wood finish underneath on the edges,
so that kind of ruins the resale value, but - do you like that finish?

Rotated the photo to help out - it does LOOK like the upper edges are rounded ...
but most of the vintage fans would say that paint has to go!

Didn't Storm paint a pair black once?




Found a black pair. Looks original like yamaha ns1000 look

60766

script56
11-30-2013, 10:37 AM
I don't like it. Wonder if I could strip easily. Also need 136a woofer pair

macaroonie
11-30-2013, 10:40 AM
Probably less work to re veneer the lot. Meaning just veneer over the top of whats there. Stripping back black will be a huge pain.

Mr. Widget
11-30-2013, 11:05 AM
Probably less work to re veneer the lot. Meaning just veneer over the top of whats there. Stripping back black will be a huge pain.Perhaps, but the originals have solid walnut quarter rounds at the top on either side of the smoked glass.


Widget

Sepperl
11-30-2013, 11:33 AM
The orig ist this 60765

hjames
11-30-2013, 11:54 AM
Didn't Storm paint a pair black once?

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=60766&d=1385841074

macaroonie
11-30-2013, 12:04 PM
Perhaps, but the originals have solid walnut quarter rounds at the top on either side of the smoked glass.


Widget

Yes indeed , nonetheless as long as you run the grain as per the originals you can roll the veneer over the solid roundover without issue.

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=28176&stc=1&d=1189870294

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?17238-Backyard-Box-Building-The-Build/page7

60767

Mr. Widget
11-30-2013, 12:48 PM
Probably less work to re veneer the lot. Meaning just veneer over the top of whats there. Stripping back black will be a huge pain.


Yes indeed , nonetheless as long as you run the grain as per the originals you can roll the veneer over the solid roundover without issue.

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=28176&stc=1&d=1189870294

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?17238-Backyard-Box-Building-The-Build/page7

60767No doubt... I guess I'm just a purest.


Widget

macaroonie
11-30-2013, 01:34 PM
Widget the only reason the originals were done the way they were is because they used pre veneered stock for the body of the cabinet and the solids were used for the roundover. Factory machine tools allow this because they are accurate and hence the joint is scarcely noticeable. A little filler and its gone.
Post veneering is more time consuming ergo more costly and therefore not viable against a price point.
I don't consider either to be a better way but for the OP post veneering should give a better result.

Mr. Widget
11-30-2013, 09:06 PM
I'll go along with that, but in my opinion the main reason to go with that look is to be authentic... ;)


Widget

remusr
12-04-2013, 09:49 PM
script - you may have to refoam what you have, recone with JBL 2235H kit or update to the current 2235H's. Haven't seen a useable original pair of 136A's or 2231A's for some time.

script56
12-10-2013, 04:01 PM
Found some 2231a reconed with 2235. So about the new veneer... It should be easiest to apply it over the old veneer after I remove black paint? Should peel n stick veneer hold over the bend in cabinets?

audiomagnate
02-17-2014, 05:37 PM
Found some 2231a reconed with 2235. So about the new veneer... It should be easiest to apply it over the old veneer after I remove black paint? Should peel n stick veneer hold over the bend in cabinets?

The radius of that curve would be no problem. I personally would try stripping and refinishing first in an attempt to keep them close to stock. You have nothing to lose and the resale value will be higher. They sure look nasty in black.

brudha
02-18-2014, 04:49 PM
Didn't Storm paint a pair black once?
IIRC, Storm purchased (then attempted to quickly sell) a painted black pair of 250TI's.

Audiobeer
02-18-2014, 05:05 PM
I would definitely give the strip a go. Pull all the drivers and mask off the front. I would even tape off 16th of an inch near the borders of the front and back of the black just to make sure there's no seepage from the stripper material. It's a lot easier than applying the veneer. If your ever down St. Louis way Drop them off!