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Goldjazz
07-31-2013, 02:54 PM
Got any pics of 70's (ok 80's or earlier) artists with JBL speakers in the shot? Studio shots or whatever, upload them!

I'll start the ball rolling (I hope) does this pic of Steeley Dan show an L100 off to the left? It's the back cover to one of their albums.

oldsoundz
08-01-2013, 04:24 PM
Looks like an L100 if I ever seen one.

I'll take an easy one.

Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound

Goldjazz
08-01-2013, 05:00 PM
Ha Nice! Are those Tie dyed grills?


Looks like an L100 if I ever seen one.

I'll take an easy one.

Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound

oldsoundz
08-01-2013, 05:12 PM
Haha... I thought the same thing

Goldjazz
08-04-2013, 03:06 AM
Looks like an L100 behind Jimmy Page at Hendrix's Electric Lady Studio.

http://www.electricladystudios.com/photos/page_kramer.jpg


Eddie Kramer below with L100s as at Electric Lady

http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/nov05/images/classic5.l.jpg

Goldjazz
08-04-2013, 04:34 AM
Photo taken during mixing of Thriller at Westlake studios. Some variant on the 4311? Port is not in typical position, Tweeter and Mid seem to be mounted to a plate which is mounted to the cabinet?


http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/nov09/images/Swedien_01.jpg


...With Quincy. First tape I ever bought.

http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/nov09/images/Swedien_05.jpg

ratitifb
08-04-2013, 05:33 AM
Some variant on the 4311? Port is not in typical position, Tweeter and Mid seem to be mounted to a plate which is mounted to the cabinet? the 4311 are the successor of this famous 4310 ;)


see http://www.audioheritage.org/html/profiles/jbl/l100.htm

Goldjazz
08-04-2013, 05:41 AM
Ah yes 4310s they are, thanks Ratitifb


the 4311 are the successor of this famous 4310 ;)


see http://www.audioheritage.org/html/profiles/jbl/l100.htm

ratitifb
08-04-2013, 05:54 AM
JBL 4311 on the left side on the wall

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and Dweezil Zappa with a 4311

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Goldjazz, nice thread idea by the way ;)

Goldjazz
08-04-2013, 04:14 PM
Thanks Ratitifb, and great find with Zappa's 4311s!

Goldjazz
08-05-2013, 05:20 AM
Brian Eno 1980

ratitifb
08-05-2013, 07:19 AM
John Entwistle (RIP) bass player for The Who with a JBL 4320 :hmm:

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MadsKaizer
08-05-2013, 11:28 AM
I like where this thread is going, I hope more is found and posted :)

ratitifb
08-05-2013, 01:35 PM
The 4332/33 with a 077 UHF :hmm:

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Goldjazz
08-05-2013, 01:56 PM
Awesome shots Ratitifb!

Keep em commin!

10cc at Strawberry Studios and the studio below, possible 4320's?

http://www.mdmarchive.co.uk/gfx/400-5825.jpg


http://www.mdmarchive.co.uk/gfx/400-6530.jpg

ratitifb
08-05-2013, 03:25 PM
Pics of his home studio are protected by Phil Collins

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33927015@N07/3159648078/sizes/o/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33927015@N07/3159648972/sizes/o/in/photostream/

HCSGuy
08-05-2013, 04:03 PM
Pics of his home studio are protected by Phil Collins

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33927015@N07/3159648078/sizes/o/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33927015@N07/3159648972/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Are these the ones?

Goldjazz
08-05-2013, 07:19 PM
ha wow you've gone deep to find that one ratitifb, amazing...Phil's personal Flickr page?

ratitifb
08-06-2013, 12:13 AM
Are these the ones?:yes:

Phil's personal Flickr page?:yes: i suppose

It's time consuming to find pics from the net by searching with the right key words first and seeing JBL on the pics after... but it's like a game and it's very funny to feed this thread :p
"Souvenirs souvenirs" :rockon1:


In 1968, Hendrix agreed to a 5 year contract with Sunn Amplifiers. In exchange for all the free equipment that the Experience needed, Hendrix agreed to offer his input for research and development. Hendrix started out with a 100S cabinet, loaded with one JBL D130 in the bottom and a LE 100S driver horn in the top. Later, the Sunn setup included up to five Coliseum P.A. tops - altered for guitar at 120 watts RMS each - with ten speaker cabinets loaded with two JBL D130s each. Hendrix soon stopped using Sunn because he got a lot of noise from the amplifiers (not from JBL;)) that he didn't like when playing at high volume levels.

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ratitifb
08-06-2013, 02:13 AM
Pete with the same gear as Jimi

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Pete used the Sunn 200S 2x15" rear-loaded folded-horn enclosures, which would have two JBL D140. Pete also appears to have occasionally used the Sunn 100S cabinet, which was the same size but featured one JBL D130 and one JBL LE100S midrange driver with high-frequency acoustic lens/horn. Both the 100s and 200s cabinets were 42″ high x 24″ wide x 15″ deep.

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Lee in Montreal
08-06-2013, 07:22 AM
Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Nice bass rig.

2 x JBL 4520 + 2 x 2395 + 4 x 2345 + 1 x 2350


http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=54516&d=1327011595

hjames
08-06-2013, 07:50 AM
Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Nice bass rig.

2 x JBL 4520 + 2 x 2395 + 4 x 2345 + 1 x 2350


http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=54516&d=1327011595 (http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=54516&d=1327011595)
made the link for ya!

Bobecca
08-06-2013, 09:19 AM
I like this thread:applaud::D

ratitifb
08-06-2013, 12:52 PM
He used JBL E120s stacked in a verticle cabinet in four then eventually three speaker configurations (note the MC 2300 amp :rockon1:)

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An unusual speaker set up :

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Note the bottom speaker in the cabinet. It is inversely mounted on the exterior of the stack, facing inward. Note that it is also connected. What purpose did this serve?

martin_wu99
08-07-2013, 02:20 AM
Nice topic,i like it:applaud:please post more pics

Goldjazz
08-07-2013, 05:45 AM
Thanks for all the great pics so far everyone, keep em comming.

What are the thoughts on this one..."The Band" at their epic performance Last Waltz. JBL behind Levon? if so what? The year was '76.

http://timeentertainment.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/levon-helm-the-last-waltz-concert.jpg?w=480&h=320&crop=1

oldsoundz
08-07-2013, 06:08 AM
Thanks for all the great pics so far everyone, keep em comming.

What are the thoughts on this one..."The Band" at their epic performance Last Waltz. JBL behind Levon? if so what? The year was '76.

http://timeentertainment.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/levon-helm-the-last-waltz-concert.jpg?w=480&h=320&crop=1

Love this show. Have watched it many times and still somehow missed the JBL rig.

DavidF
08-07-2013, 07:16 AM
Consistent in many of the stage photos are the artists in the line of fire of the PA/audience sound source. Wowser.

ratitifb
08-07-2013, 07:18 AM
Pete promoting :D

"Today I use JBL speakers everywhere in my life — at home and in the studio. I still have several sets of 4311s, and lots of smaller speakers that I like to use rather than those funny Yamaha things everyone loves. I use big modern JBLs for my cinema set up at home (I use the cinema rig as a test bed for my 5.1 mixes as well)"

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drumiv
08-08-2013, 02:54 AM
Has anyone watched the "History of the Eagles"? It's been on cable a lot lately. Anyway, in one of Joe Walsh's interview shots, he's sitting in front of a wall of speakers, all of which seem to be JBL's. They're slightly out of focus, so hard to identify.

Goldjazz
08-08-2013, 04:53 AM
Not seen that, but I was really keen to find some Eagles pics for this thread, no luck so far.


Has anyone watched the "History of the Eagles"? It's been on cable a lot lately. Anyway, in one of Joe Walsh's interview shots, he's sitting in front of a wall of speakers, all of which seem to be JBL's. They're slightly out of focus, so hard to identify.

Goldjazz
08-08-2013, 04:59 AM
Giorgio Moroder inventing the the genre of electronic music...on a pair of frickin jbl's ;)

http://images.dazedcdn.com/786/dd/1030/5/1035845.jpg

ratitifb
08-08-2013, 06:29 AM
at K- EARTH 101 FM's studio with 4412A monitors :cool:

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Goldjazz
08-08-2013, 03:00 PM
Ha nicely done!


at K- EARTH 101 FM's studio with 4412A monitors :cool:

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Dave_72
08-08-2013, 03:49 PM
Great thread! Keep 'em comin! :)

Goldjazz
08-09-2013, 07:55 AM
Carlos Santana

http://images.gdao.org/view/image/ark%3A%2F38305%2Fg40r9ngf%2Fis%2F1

ratitifb
08-10-2013, 01:27 AM
to promote the JBL brand
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What JBL gears behind ???

Goldjazz, as you say "wow! nicely done" with Carlos shot :cool:

Goldjazz
08-11-2013, 12:03 AM
Cheers Ratitifb, and a Beatle...good find. Here's Les Paul

http://www.agoraquest.com/editor/upload/2k56b9568b44.jpg

ratitifb
08-11-2013, 02:04 PM
Rob uses two birdseye maple-trim Fatties with JBL D120s and K120s. Rob's grill covers are Mars and Jupiter designs on Muslin.
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Mike Caldwell
08-11-2013, 05:53 PM
He used JBL E120s stacked in a verticle cabinet in four then eventually three speaker configurations (note the MC 2300 amp :rockon1:)

59675

An unusual speaker set up :

59676

Note the bottom speaker in the cabinet. It is inversely mounted on the exterior of the stack, facing inward. Note that it is also connected. What purpose did this serve?

Unless I'm looking at the bottom speaker wrong it appears to just be a frame, no magnet. The connection, what ever it is from is made into a small box not the push terminals you would expect to see.
There have been cabinet designs speakers mounted inverted, not to be confused with isobaric sub designs. Usually half of the speakers in the cabinet are mounted inverted, the wiring polarity is flipped on the inverted speakers so the acoustical output from all the speakers is in phase. With half of the speakers inverted the theory is that mechanical distortion generated by the speakers themselves with be canceled.

4343
08-11-2013, 11:42 PM
Unless I'm looking at the bottom speaker wrong it appears to just be a frame, no magnet. The connection, what ever it is from is made into a small box not the push terminals you would expect to see.
There have been cabinet designs speakers mounted inverted, not to be confused with isobaric sub designs. Usually half of the speakers in the cabinet are mounted inverted, the wiring polarity is flipped on the inverted speakers so the acoustical output from all the speakers is in phase. With half of the speakers inverted the theory is that mechanical distortion generated by the speakers themselves with be canceled.
Yeah, I thought it was some sort of direct box experiment or something when I first saw it.

The little TCB SB-5 has two sets of two drivers in there mounted face to face for the mechanical distortion cancellation you refer to. Seems to work OK.

Mike Caldwell
08-12-2013, 05:12 AM
Yeah, I thought it was some sort of direct box experiment or something when I first saw it.

The little TCB SB-5 has two sets of two drivers in there mounted face to face for the mechanical distortion cancellation you refer to. Seems to work OK.

Two drivers mounted face to face is a Isobaric design technique. The SB5 must be a form
of band pass and isobaric design. Isobaric designs let you basically obtain the same tunning while cutting the cabinet size in half from using a single driver.

Don C
08-12-2013, 09:01 AM
He used JBL E120s stacked in a verticle cabinet in four then eventually three speaker configurations (note the MC 2300 amp :rockon1:)

59675

An unusual speaker set up :

59676

Note the bottom speaker in the cabinet. It is inversely mounted on the exterior of the stack, facing inward. Note that it is also connected. What purpose did this serve?
Looks like a makeshift microphone bracket to me.

Mike F
08-15-2013, 07:37 PM
Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Nice bass rig.

2 x JBL 4520 + 2 x 2395 + 4 x 2345 + 1 x 2350


http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=54516&d=1327011595

Which currently resides in your home ;)

ratitifb
01-01-2014, 06:55 AM
"How it ended was, I was making a copy of a cassette and writing down every track and I was perfectly OK, I pushed down the record and play, turned round and bang! I caught my head on the edge of a speaker. Must have been asleep for a third of a second. JBL speakers (4315B) , man, beware that brand! There was claret (blood) everywhere. It was then that my friends said, 'Keith, I think you'd better go to bed.'"

from http://www.contactmusic.com/news-article/keith-richards.-nine.day-party

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:happyh:

and a Happy New Year folks!

Goldjazz
01-01-2014, 09:26 PM
Hahaha awesome find Ratitifb! What a way to end a 9 day bender! Wise words from Keith....beware JBLs. This is the best pic of the lot :)

ratitifb
01-28-2014, 05:37 AM
61389

Billy Cox is using six Guild Quantum Bass cabinets (stacked on the right) with two JBL 15" K130 speakers in each of them :rockon1:

4343
01-28-2014, 11:17 AM
Billy Cox is using six Guild Quantum Bass cabinets (stacked on the right) with two JBL 15" K130 speakers in each of them :rockon1:

According to this page:

http://www.vintageguitarandbass.com/guild/amplifier/Quantum.php

Quantum Bass denotes K-140's. Quantum X had the K-130's in an otherwise identical rig. $925 vs. $895. For $30 I don't think any bass player would have chosen K-130's to play through...

ratitifb
01-28-2014, 02:14 PM
According to this page:http://www.vintageguitarandbass.com/guild/amplifier/Quantum.phpQuantum Bass denotes K-140's. Quantum X had the K-130's in an otherwise identical rig. $925 vs. $895. For $30 I don't think any bass player would have chosen K-130's to play through...K140 is certainly an upgrade regarding LF expansion but according to other page and probably depending on time, there are also on board 2x 15" D130F JBL :dont-know:

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Doc Mark
01-28-2014, 06:24 PM
Good Evening, All,

As a related aside, our band opened for Blood, Sweat, and Tears, up in Rock Springs, Wyoming, back in 1986!! We were playing locally and an agent came in a caught a set one night, then asked if we would replace the scheduled opening act, which he thought was horrible!! Of course, we very happily accepted the job, and it turned out to be an outstanding night for us. I was all "a-flutter" to look out and see David Clayton-Thomas, the BS&T lead vocalist, sitting at the back bar, enjoying a beverage, as I was singing one of our most demanding songs!!! Made my night, that's for sure, and quite a bit easier to hit those screaming high notes!! Later, whilst listening to BS&T doing their show (and they told us they HATED the crummy PA system that had been setup for them!), we were really in heaven, seeing some of our musical idols playing right where we'd just been earlier that night!! Magical, it was, and magical it remains in my memories of that great night!! Sorry for the short side trip, but I couldn't help myself! Wish I had a photo to share, but alas, don't have a single one. Take care, and God Bless!

Every Good Wish,
Doc

Goldjazz
04-30-2014, 03:53 AM
...with some 4333's?

Goldjazz
05-05-2014, 07:48 PM
...Stevie with Malcolm Cecil and Robert Margouleff and TONTO (ie the crazy synth consols surrounding them).

Goldjazz
05-07-2014, 01:50 AM
Rotated 4355's?

ratitifb
05-07-2014, 03:37 AM
yeah :applaud: in flush mounted arrangement for accuracy...

Mike Caldwell
05-11-2014, 04:06 PM
61389

Billy Cox is using six Guild Quantum Bass cabinets (stacked on the right) with two JBL 15" K130 speakers in each of them :rockon1:


For the that time period in audio production seeing what looks like a true stage monitor in front of Billy Cox was a cutting edge concept. I going to to guess it was a McCune Audio system at that show.
Back then if there was any at all in the way of a stage monitor it was either something stacked up for a side fill or any speaker that was handy tilted back with shim under the front to point it sorta up at an angle towards the musician.

I wonder what they have keeping the stack of Fender amps from falling over!! It looks like four bassman heads, one dual showman head all stacked on top of a twin reverb!

Malefoda
10-05-2014, 11:37 AM
Here an Acousmonium in France, where are they gone? o_O'

http://designingsound.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Acousmonium_1980_photo_Laszlo_Ruszka__c_Ina.jpg

martin2395
10-05-2014, 01:46 PM
Probably scrapped :( I heard horror stories of scrapping big 43's in the 90's when they got replaced by modern stuff like Adam, Genelec or ATC/PMC.

Mike Caldwell
10-06-2014, 05:08 PM
Sorry for the so so picture but no one around here had a scanner big enough to put it in so I took a picture of it. I got this some years ago and finally got around to getting it framed. Looking close at the picture it appears to be Ted Nugent on stage.

Radley
10-18-2014, 11:31 AM
Ha Nice! Are those Tie dyed grills?

According to Blair Jackson's excellent book "Grateful Dead Gear" all of the tie-dyed grille cabinets were supposed to be set up in a way so they made a single image. I think he said that lasted one gig then their crew gave up on doing that.

Goldjazz
11-13-2014, 02:50 AM
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“John Belushi was an extreme experience even by my standards.” -KR

LowPhreak
11-13-2014, 06:16 PM
“John Belushi was an extreme experience even by my standards.” -KR


Coming from Keef, I'd consider that a great compliment. :D

Goldjazz
11-15-2014, 10:37 PM
Dave Byrne and Brian Eno

JuniorJBL
11-17-2014, 04:15 PM
My best friend and I noticed this when we were young and first got "Exit Stage Left" from Rush.

You can see the back of the stage monitor with an "E-Series" in it. Very hard to see if you have the CD cover but if you have the Album cover then it is a very good shot! ;)

DavidF
11-17-2014, 07:59 PM
My best friend and I noticed this when we were young and first got "Exit Stage Left" from Rush.

You can see the back of the stage monitor with an "E-Series" in it. Very hard to see if you have the CD cover but if you have the Album cover then it is a very good shot! ;)

Ah-ha! Yet another example how vinyl is better than digital...;)

And hey, what's that in David Byrne's ear in the above photo? Too early for bluetooth.

ratitifb
11-18-2014, 07:54 AM
Very hard to see fortunately it seems that some alu domes can be seen from that pic :yes:

ratitifb
11-21-2014, 06:32 AM
we can see at the bottom right the JBL112 :coolness:

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thx fabrice11 for pic



(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=501&u=16572002)

SEAWOLF97
11-21-2014, 09:06 AM
with KEITH and RONNIE...

we can see at the bottom right the JBL112 :coolness:



I just watched A Clockwork Orange again.

In the extras they mentioned that if Malcom McDowell had not been available for the film, Mick Jagger would have been asked. And the Stones would have been cast as the Droogies.

In a letter uncovered this week, we learn of the Clockwork Orange conceived back before Stanley Kubrick came on board and made his film with Malcolm McDowell. It reveals that Mick Jagger (http://www.theguardian.com/music/mick-jagger) wanted to play the psychotic thug Alex, while the Beatles were interested in providing the soundtrack.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2008/may/06/therollingstones

martin2395
11-21-2014, 10:49 AM
we can see at the bottom right the JBL112 :coolness:

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thx fabrice11 for pic



(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=501&u=16572002)

And on the left, against the wall you can see one of the front grilles :)

LowPhreak
11-21-2014, 12:44 PM
In a letter uncovered this week, we learn of the Clockwork Orange conceived back before Stanley Kubrick came on board and made his film with Malcolm McDowell. It reveals that Mick Jagger (http://www.theguardian.com/music/mick-jagger) wanted to play the psychotic thug Alex, while the Beatles were interested in providing the soundtrack.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2008/may/06/therollingstones


Now that might have been cool.

hjames
11-21-2014, 03:07 PM
Now that might have been cool.

Legends of the Jagger ...
One legend has it that he was going to be in Fitzcarraldo ...
Wikipedia:
Casting of the film was difficult. Jason Robards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Robards) was originally cast in the title role, but he became ill with dysentery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysentery) during early filming. After leaving for treatment, he was forbidden by his doctors to return. Herzog considered casting Jack Nicholson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Nicholson), or playing the role of Fitzcarraldo himself, before Klaus Kinski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Kinski) accepted the role. Herzog had done considerable film work with Kinski. By that point, forty percent of shooting with Robards was complete. For continuity, Herzog had to begin a total reshoot with Kinski. Mick Jagger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Jagger) was originally cast as Fitzcarraldo's assistant Wilbur, but due to the delays, his shooting schedule expired. He departed to tour with the Rolling Stones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones). Herzog dropped Jagger's character from the script altogether as he reshot the film from the beginning.

SEAWOLF97
11-21-2014, 05:09 PM
In a letter uncovered this week, we learn of the Clockwork Orange conceived back before Stanley Kubrick came on board and made his film with Malcolm McDowell. It reveals that Mick Jagger (http://www.theguardian.com/music/mick-jagger) wanted to play the psychotic thug Alex, while the Beatles were interested in providing the soundtrack.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2008/may/06/therollingstones

Much as i enjoy The Beatles, cannot imagine anything that they could possibly do that would be better than LVB's 9/4 or The Thieving Magpie ..etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_%28film%29

The soundtrack to A Clockwork Orange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_%28soundtrack%29) features mostly classical music selections and Moog synthesizer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moog_synthesizer) compositions by Walter Carlos

Goldjazz
11-21-2014, 09:22 PM
These jbl monitors may have been exposed to more ganja smoke than any others in history. This is Bob and his crew at Tuff Gong records around 79/80

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..Bob getting into the tunes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6iPqX55K2o

martin2395
11-22-2014, 02:45 AM
They look like 4343(B)WX and 4311(B)WX to me.

I've seen that desk before, scorpion?

caladois
11-22-2014, 04:54 AM
Serge Gainsbourghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91-sIenK2ZL._SL1500_.jpg

Lowlife
11-22-2014, 08:43 AM
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr231/lowlife4life/Altec Lansing Forum/Chong-4311_zpsec25a4ff.jpg (http://s487.photobucket.com/user/lowlife4life/media/Altec Lansing Forum/Chong-4311_zpsec25a4ff.jpg.html)

Tommy Chong 4311


http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr231/lowlife4life/Altec Lansing Forum/L-Kravitz-Bowie-4311_zps6e1a84c6.jpg (http://s487.photobucket.com/user/lowlife4life/media/Altec Lansing Forum/L-Kravitz-Bowie-4311_zps6e1a84c6.jpg.html)

Kravitz slips into the "80's" by one year.


http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr231/lowlife4life/Altec Lansing Forum/4-Bealtes-612C-loaded-605A_zpsf7160f70.jpg (http://s487.photobucket.com/user/lowlife4life/media/Altec Lansing Forum/4-Bealtes-612C-loaded-605A_zpsf7160f70.jpg.html)

And if Altec isn't considered a thread hijack (I'm new & rather fond of Altec), Fab 4 & 612c that also had a Duplex. I've read discussion that the 612's use is to blame for the 'floppy bass' on Beatles' recordings.


http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr231/lowlife4life/Altec Lansing Forum/John-amp-Yoko-612C-loaded-605A-dup_zpse5879dc5.jpg (http://s487.photobucket.com/user/lowlife4life/media/Altec Lansing Forum/John-amp-Yoko-612C-loaded-605A-dup_zpse5879dc5.jpg.html)

John (& 'her') doesn't look offended by the Altecs. Even after a few years.


http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr231/lowlife4life/Altec Lansing Forum/Jimi1204_zps1b4c88f3.jpg (http://s487.photobucket.com/user/lowlife4life/media/Altec Lansing Forum/Jimi1204_zps1b4c88f3.jpg.html)

Jimi & 1204?


http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr231/lowlife4life/Altec Lansing Forum/J-Cash-2353_zps052982c0.jpg (http://s487.photobucket.com/user/lowlife4life/media/Altec Lansing Forum/J-Cash-2353_zps052982c0.jpg.html)

Looks like Elvis, but it's identified as Cash, and I think that could be a 2353.


http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr231/lowlife4life/Altec Lansing Forum/Marley-77-2395_zpscb6b1f01.jpg (http://s487.photobucket.com/user/lowlife4life/media/Altec Lansing Forum/Marley-77-2395_zpscb6b1f01.jpg.html)

Marley & a 2395?


http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr231/lowlife4life/Altec Lansing Forum/Joan-Biaz-75-CP-WO2395_zps3e1cb969.jpg (http://s487.photobucket.com/user/lowlife4life/media/Altec Lansing Forum/Joan-Biaz-75-CP-WO2395_zps3e1cb969.jpg.html)

Biaz & a plethora of vintage JBL sound reinforcement for the house. (Anyone identify the stage monitors? I thought JBL, but Yamaha had a similar sized horn.)


http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr231/lowlife4life/Altec Lansing Forum/SRV-B-Guy-NYC-83-4560_zpsdf3ed8a2.jpg (http://s487.photobucket.com/user/lowlife4life/media/Altec Lansing Forum/SRV-B-Guy-NYC-83-4560_zpsdf3ed8a2.jpg.html)

SRV & Guy with a possible 4560.


http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr231/lowlife4life/Altec Lansing Forum/Altec-Neil-Young-71_zpse8676636.jpg (http://s487.photobucket.com/user/lowlife4life/media/Altec Lansing Forum/Altec-Neil-Young-71_zpse8676636.jpg.html)

Plum wore "Harvest" out.

Thanx for the resource, and for allowing me to join in. Cool thread.

Lee in Montreal
11-22-2014, 09:36 AM
Serge Gainsbourg

Serge Gainsbourg's "Aux armes et caetera" album was very late 1970s. His reggae version of "La Marseillaise" infuriated conservative France when it came out in 1979. I thought it was great to hear Bob Marley's own back-up singers, the i-Threes, sing "aux armes, et caetera". ;-) Rita Marley, Judy Mowatt and Marcia Grifith. all also had their own solo carreers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLq7EcvRaf0

caladois
11-22-2014, 11:49 AM
France is missing Gainsbourg. He leave us in 1994.

ratitifb
11-22-2014, 01:15 PM
Ma petite quéquette sort de ma braguette. Je pisse et je pète en montant chez Kate. Moralité: eau et gaz à tous les étages... :cheers:

SEAWOLF97
11-22-2014, 06:16 PM
Pics of 70's artists with JBLs (http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?34649-Pics-of-70-s-artists-with-JBLs/page3)


do you think those artists even knew what speakers were being used ? do you think they even cared (as long as sound was reproduced well) ?? Does a renowned person walking into a studio and using what is already installed ... equate to an endorsement ?

with a personal item like a guitar, I'd answer YES, but this whole thread seems to be a bit of a reach ..IMHO

IF the thread was "pics of 70's sound professionals with their selected JBL's" , that might have been more significant.

Goldjazz
11-22-2014, 07:08 PM
You're over thinking it mate, this thread is just a bit of fun


Pics of 70's artists with JBLs (http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?34649-Pics-of-70-s-artists-with-JBLs/page3)


do you think those artists even knew what speakers were being used ? do you think they even cared (as long as sound was reproduced well) ?? Does a renowned person walking into a studio and using what is already installed ... equate to an endorsement ?

with a personal item like a guitar, I'd answer YES, but this whole thread seems to be a bit of a reach ..IMHO

IF the thread was "pics of 70's sound professionals with their selected JBL's" , that might have been more significant.

martin2395
11-22-2014, 07:46 PM
It's 'bout the pride of ownership! Every time I see a 4343 or a 4311/4312 next to a famous artist or hanging in a big recording studio it just makes me happy and proud to own a piece of history.

ratitifb
11-22-2014, 11:58 PM
Pics of 70's artists with JBLs (http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?34649-Pics-of-70-s-artists-with-JBLs/page3)


do you think those artists even knew what speakers were being used ? if i well remember what i have read Serge Gainsbourg had its own JBL at home (4333 or L300? don´t remember...)
;)

LowPhreak
11-23-2014, 12:14 AM
Seawolf's right. I do recall Pete Townshend and I think Carlos Santana endorsing JBL at one time, and certain engineers like Eddie Kramer of course, but most artists probably leave it to the studios and venues and often don't have much say in it anyway unless they're a big-name act.

caladois
11-23-2014, 02:09 AM
And on an other side, Michel Simon, a french actor of the 50s owned Hartsfield, but He was not musician.

hjames
11-23-2014, 06:28 AM
Well, there was that whole thread here about the member in Paris who bought the 4320/4333 JBLs
that Ox (the late John Entwistle of the Who) customized.


http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?674-4320-update-w-2405

John Entwistle (RIP) bass player for The Who with a JBL 4320 :hmm:

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=59637&d=1375712090




Seawolf's right. I do recall Pete Townshend and I think Carlos Santana endorsing JBL at one time, and certain engineers like Eddie Kramer of course, but most artists probably leave it to the studios and venues and often don't have much say in it anyway unless they're a big-name act.

BMWCCA
11-23-2014, 07:25 AM
Probably more important, though removed from the point of this thread, to discuss why recording engineers choose JBLs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIc3DLPC14U#t=72


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grRs7vdYkcI

SEAWOLF97
11-23-2014, 09:09 AM
Probably more important, though removed from the point of this thread, to discuss why recording engineers choose JBLs

there's the crux to the misguidance of the topic. (as I see it)

ratitifb
11-23-2014, 09:51 AM
there's the crux to the misguidance of the topic. (as I see it):no_wag:

From my feeling this topic isn't a "technical" one but it has to be mainly supplied by every pic we can find here and there :dont-know:

By the way any technical comment regarding pics are welcome ;)

DavidF
11-23-2014, 12:28 PM
Pics of 70's artists with JBLs (http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?34649-Pics-of-70-s-artists-with-JBLs/page3)


do you think those artists even knew what speakers were being used ? do you think they even cared (as long as sound was reproduced well) ?? Does a renowned person walking into a studio and using what is already installed ... equate to an endorsement ?

with a personal item like a guitar, I'd answer YES, but this whole thread seems to be a bit of a reach ..IMHO

IF the thread was "pics of 70's sound professionals with their selected JBL's" , that might have been more significant.

There were plenty of artists who made tacit endorsements of studio equipment as a whole in that era. You are likely correct that they did not have particular preference for individual sound components in the equipment chain, i.e. studio monitors. But they often did prefer certain studios for a particular sound. Room acoustics, microphone choices, main control board in use were often considered by the artist when laying down tracks. Playback through a Scully or Ampex tape deck? Playback through Altec or through JBL? Perhaps not nearly so much.

The perspective I take from this thread is how JBL was such an established go-to vendor for sound equipment in that era. Whether you made the decision to use JBL or you relied on a knowledgeable third party, it's still interesting to note the prevalence of JBL equipment in use.

Lowlife
11-25-2014, 07:24 AM
Pics of 70's artists with JBLs (http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?34649-Pics-of-70-s-artists-with-JBLs/page3)


do you think those artists even knew what speakers were being used ? do you think they even cared (as long as sound was reproduced well) ?? Does a renowned person walking into a studio and using what is already installed ... equate to an endorsement ?

with a personal item like a guitar, I'd answer YES, but this whole thread seems to be a bit of a reach ..IMHO

IF the thread was "pics of 70's sound professionals with their selected JBL's" , that might have been more significant.

All apologies SEAWOLF97. In my defense: I was 'misguided' by the whole heritage thing, and a notion of freedom of speech/thought/assembly. I've removed offensive images. I was just trying to enjoy myself, and my new speakers. Gotta do something while others sleep. You have a great time deciding what's significant. ("... ..IMHO..." H? Seriously????)

4343
11-25-2014, 09:23 AM
Ah-ha! Yet another example how vinyl is better than digital...;)

And hey, what's that in David Byrne's ear in the above photo? Too early for bluetooth.

Looks like Sony MDR-W08 or a similar predecessor. You can see a narrow headband above.

Auratones place that pic squarely in the middle of the Walkman era...:D

DavidF
11-25-2014, 11:37 AM
Looks like Sony MDR-W08 or a similar predecessor. You can see a narrow headband above.

Auratones place that pic squarely in the middle of the Walkman era...:D

Ahhh..so! Thanks, Mike.

ratitifb
11-25-2014, 03:02 PM
Auratones place that pic squarely in the middle of the Walkman era...:DAuratones are lovely nearfield "cubes" to work with but you have to have the capacity to imagine the basses!

mike
11-28-2014, 08:02 PM
It seems like the 4311's , 4310's and L100's are in the background of more old studio photos than any other JBL. Keith Richards actually mentions JBL speakers a couple of times in his book.

martin2395
11-29-2014, 02:45 PM
It seems like the 4311's , 4310's and L100's are in the background of more old studio photos than any other JBL. Keith Richards actually mentions JBL speakers a couple of times in his book.

Maybe that's just what they needed at studios back then? The 4310/11/L100 have their own sound signature with very good dynamics and strongly exposed midrange.
Makes me wonder how they sound compared to the NS10M.

Goldjazz
12-07-2014, 03:58 AM
Mothersbaugh with "TONTO" at his Studio, and a pair of 4333's I think. Stevie Wonder used this setup pretty extensively too

Read more at the bottom of this link.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/devo.htm


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martin2395
12-07-2014, 07:56 AM
Yes, 2-way 4333's.

LowPhreak
12-07-2014, 01:32 PM
Stevie Wonder used this setup pretty extensively too



A couple years ago, I seem to remember reading that Stevie was using the bigger PMC models, like BB5's or MB2's or something. Might have been a particular studio he was using, idk.

:dont-know:



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Goldjazz
12-17-2014, 03:47 AM
Apologies for the terrible quality of this clip, actually it's Lindsay Buckingham's fault :) One of his home videos of a recording session for Tusk, 4311's in use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnBA1IYvS9A

Goldjazz
12-21-2014, 05:39 AM
63883

audiomagnate
12-21-2014, 01:02 PM
A couple years ago, I seem to remember reading that Stevie was using the bigger PMC models, like BB5's or MB2's or something. Might have been a particular studio he was using, idk.

:dont-know:



63770 63771


They most likely sound great, but those are without doubt the ugliest speakers I've ever seen.

LowPhreak
12-22-2014, 12:59 PM
I've seen a few PMC models in-person at Audio Classics and the cabinet work looks second to none, but that sewer grate over the woofers is pretty loud. :rolleyes: I'd assume that in a studio the aesthetic wouldn't matter so much.

They did sound pretty damned good though. The transmission-line low end was among the best I'd ever heard.

DavidF
12-22-2014, 01:31 PM
I've seen a few PMC models in-person at Audio Classics and the cabinet work looks second to none, but that sewer grate over the woofers is pretty loud. :rolleyes: I'd assume that in a studio the aesthetic wouldn't matter so much.

Agreed. I have looked before for the need for the heavy front frame but never found anything. Assumed it was part of the frame support for the driver. Have not heard any of their models but they certainly have a good reputation.

macaroonie
12-22-2014, 05:39 PM
I've seen a few PMC models in-person at Audio Classics and the cabinet work looks second to none, but that sewer grate over the woofers is pretty loud. :rolleyes: I'd assume that in a studio the aesthetic wouldn't matter so much.

They did sound pretty damned good though. The transmission-line low end was among the best I'd ever heard.

Volt drivers Made in UK

DavidF
12-22-2014, 08:05 PM
Volt drivers Made in UK

Interesting operation tucked away in south in an unlikely spot. I like the Dorset area. Be nice to work and live in that area.

martin2395
12-23-2014, 12:17 PM
Volt drivers Made in UK

Correct, their older models were extensively used in the bigger REL subwoofers.

LowPhreak
12-24-2014, 01:36 AM
Correct, their older models were extensively used in the bigger REL subwoofers.

Right, and I owned a REL Stentor III (the model just below their flagship Studio II then) that I wish I still had. Both used the Volt 10 driver. Great sub, and REL is one of the very few powered subs I'd ever own. To my knowledge, JBL currently makes nothing that even comes close in a powered model.

Mctwins
12-24-2014, 02:10 AM
Right, and I owned a REL Stentor III (the model just below their flagship Studio II then) that I wish I still had. Both used the Volt 10 driver. Great sub, and REL is one of the very few powered subs I'd ever own. To my knowledge, JBL currently makes nothing that even comes close in a powered model.

No problems....:)

http://www.jblpro.com/ProductAttachments/VPSB7118.pdf

martin2395
12-24-2014, 02:11 AM
This one should be on par with the best RELs, JBL Array 1500:http://www.jblsynthesis.com/products/subwoofers/1500-array/

LowPhreak
12-24-2014, 09:29 AM
Mctwins - that's a pro model, not something a lot of people would want parked in their living rooms.

martin - I didn't know they were making that one. However, if you've ever heard a well-set up REL, you'd see how nicely they can integrate into the system (once dialed in) which IMHO is the key to great sub performance. Anyone can make a big box with a big driver to go 'boom!', but if it sounds detached or not like an extension of the satellites, then to me it isn't optimal. That's not taking anything away from the Array sub's capability, I'm sure it can put out a decent wallop.

As my experience with the REL showed me, it isn't just about lowest Hz or big dB output/brute force bass. Subs like REL's better models (and perhaps JL Audio's) simply sound like your speakers gained the last octave or so in the low end, not as a separate entity, and the soundstage and detail is improved as well. It's quite impressive.

jblwolf
01-13-2015, 07:07 PM
:bouncy:

Goldjazz
05-04-2015, 05:35 AM
The Ritchie Family "best disco in town". Funny how much trouble the set designer has gone to make them look just like 4333's. Now if it were real that would be the best disco in town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrikjSJBAnM


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Goldjazz
05-07-2015, 03:49 AM
another picture of Eno with some jbl mointors. 4313's this time. 65404

duc172
05-15-2015, 05:23 AM
Mothersbaugh with "TONTO" at his Studio, and a pair of 4333's I think. Stevie Wonder used this setup pretty extensively too

Read more at the bottom of this link.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/devo.htm


63766

TONTO has found a comfortable new home at the National Music Centre in Calgary, Alberta. This is a fantastically
innovative museum with a very forward thinking accessibility policy including an artist in residence program. Check out the link to the collection here: http://www.nmc.ca/collections/
This part of the site gives you a taste of current activities at NMC as they are in the process of building their new museum: http://www.nmc.ca/amplify/

Goldjazz
05-15-2015, 10:35 PM
Ha Cool, I'm glad Tonto is preserved and on show in a museum, it's an impressive, innovative beast. NMC looks like a great place.


TONTO has found a comfortable new home at the National Music Centre in Calgary, Alberta. This is a fantastically
innovative museum with a very forward thinking accessibility policy including an artist in residence program. Check out the link to the collection here: http://www.nmc.ca/collections/
This part of the site gives you a taste of current activities at NMC as they are in the process of building their new museum: http://www.nmc.ca/amplify/

Goldjazz
05-20-2015, 04:08 AM
Apologies for posting a picture of Leif Garret but pics of 4310's are hard to find

Goldjazz
07-22-2015, 03:41 AM
Checking out some photos from Abey studios that actually look pretty recent....looks like 4320's

martin2395
07-23-2015, 02:34 AM
What are they used for when placed that high?

Goldjazz
07-23-2015, 02:45 AM
yeah, not sure. Maybe they're up high probably because its a huge room. I presume they are there just for playback to the musicians in the studo

grumpy
07-23-2015, 08:28 AM
When we had them in a similar sized music/rehearsal room, that's what they were used for.
Not critical listening or eval.

DavidF
07-24-2015, 02:28 PM
yeah, not sure. Maybe they're up high probably because its a huge room. I presume they are there just for playback to the musicians in the studo
You will see many photos of times past where studios had playback monitors wall mounted. Many times they are are on dollies or have wheels mounted for as-needed applications. A good suppostion is that they tended to be high up when wall mounted to get them out of the way and also get them where they can direct over a large group of musicians.

As for these in Studio Two, you don't see them in older photos of the room. Nor the lights. So perhaps they were both installed for the various "live" from Abbey Roads and other concert productions. Funny that these vintage speakers (without the diffraction lenses) were hoisted up there. Maybe there are still dozens around in the old store rooms within the facility.

fabrice11
08-09-2015, 11:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6QsusDS_8A

Shaun M
08-11-2015, 11:13 AM
66325


https://youtu.be/p7Y1cn2dAcE?t=3m37s
JBL Concert Series 4850's on the wall at 3:37?

Goldjazz
08-29-2015, 07:04 AM
So this pic is supposed to be Robert plant at Electric Lady in 1973. Now I know Eddie Kramar at Electric Lady used L100's but I thought the L100 came out later than '73?

Goldjazz
08-29-2015, 07:08 AM
So this pic is supposed to be Robert plant at Electric Lady in 1973. Now I know Eddie Kramar at Electric Lady used L100's but I thought the L100 came out later than '73?

Ok this one with Jimmy Page and Krammer says '75

Mr. Widget
08-29-2015, 12:32 PM
The L100 pictured in the second photo where more of the speaker is visible is the original version that debuted in 1970.

Damn those guys look young!


Widget

Goldjazz
08-29-2015, 07:36 PM
1970, way earlier than I thought. Hendrix himself may have listened a pair there as i think died 1970. Yeah they look pretty young there and aged rapidly soon after...they sure lived hard.



The L100 pictured in the second photo where more of the speaker is visible is the original version that debuted in 1970.

Damn those guys look young!


Widget

Goldjazz
01-02-2016, 12:58 AM
ELO's drummer Bev Bevan (great name) with some 4320's

svollmer
01-04-2016, 09:25 AM
ELO's drummer Bev Bevan (great name) with some 4320's

Egads; Roto Toms!

SEAWOLF97
01-04-2016, 09:41 AM
,,, I thought the L100 came out later than '73?

When the marketing plans were prepared for the product's introduction, Irv Stern came up with the felicitous name of "The Century" to go with its L100 sales number. After its introduction at the 1970 summer Consumer Electronics Show in Chicago, the L100 went on to become not only JBL's most successful product up to that time but, from all indications, the best-selling loudspeaker system of the decade.

http://www.audioheritage.org/html/profiles/jbl/l100.htm

Introduced at CES in 1970, the L-100 was built upon the strength of JBL’s highly successful 4310 studio monitors. Just like the auto-racing philosophy of selling on Monday what you ran on Sunday, the audio enthusiast of 1973 saw the L-100 as something to aspire to

http://www.tonepublications.com/old-school/jbl-l-100-century-loudspeakers/

LowPhreak
01-04-2016, 02:43 PM
ELO's drummer Bev Bevan (great name) with some 4320's


At first glance I thought that was Jose “Chepito” Areas, timbale player of Santana.

BMWCCA
01-05-2016, 07:59 AM
I thought the L100 came out later than '73?

I remember one of my closest friends in St. Louis getting his L100s well before our high-school graduation in 1971. That fall he moved to Virginia for college with them and still has them in his home in DC.

At the time I was only slightly unimpressed but probably because I was jammin' in my home home to a pair of C37 030s with a Mac C20 and Fisher SA1000. Good speakers. Lots of fun. Just preferred what I had. We all know the reasons for their evolution and their original "control" purpose. A great piece of history.

I question if they were the largest-selling speakers of the decade, though. I just remember seeing far more ARs, Advents, and KLHs back then.

LowPhreak
01-06-2016, 03:13 PM
I question if they were the largest-selling speakers of the decade, though. I just remember seeing far more ARs, Advents, and KLHs back then.


I wondered the same, since none of my friends back East had JBL's in the 70's except one, who had (I think) 4311's and later a pair of L150s. I saw a lot of other stuff but not many JBLs then.

Goldjazz
01-23-2016, 10:34 PM
Rear cover of his '82 album mystic miracle star.

Goldjazz
01-24-2016, 02:30 AM
Two pics from '86 and '87 from his Air studios with 4435's in Monteserrat. Earlier pics with 4350's. Sadly the studio was destroyed by a hurricane in '89. The police at Air studios around '82

BeDome
01-24-2016, 04:29 AM
I was very active in the '80s. That would have been a dream/drool studio to me when it was created.

All of my JBL equipment had a great deal of value in the late '90s when I "retired," so I ended up selling them off never realizing that they were already true treasures, but I still have a few pair of those Yamaha NS-5, NS-10 monitors. I have those same in 8" 10" and 15" that I do not know what to do with.

One pair of NS-5s lives in the garage.

DavidF
01-24-2016, 03:57 PM
Two pics from '86 and '87 from his Air studios with 4435's in Monteserrat. Earlier pics with 4350's. Sadly the studio was destroyed by a hurricane in '89. The police at Air studios around '82

Couple of observations. First the HVAC vents. Imagine the energy requirements to keep those studios cooled? Then there is staid Sir George Martin in his suit and at least a collared shirt and tie, just as he was with almost every picture with the Beatles. No flowery Hawaii shirts and sandals for George.:D

Goldjazz
01-25-2016, 03:09 AM
Some destroyed 4350's and 4343's....

Johnny_Law
01-25-2016, 08:24 PM
In the album art for Running on Empty ...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9KvtGvXr0Ts/VqblgTWmhcI/AAAAAAAAIi8/YVMt7-BSJ0g/s1024-Ic42/IMG_20160125_191720298.jpg

Goldjazz
01-28-2016, 03:34 AM
Caribou ranch

Goldjazz
03-22-2016, 01:06 PM
In case you were wondering why "The Wall" sounds so good on your JBL's: Brittana Row was the Recording Studio set up by Pink Floyd in 1975, kitted out with a pair of 4350's. The image of the control room below is from 1976.


" In 1975 Pink Floyd bought a three-storey block of church halls at 35 Britannia Row in Islington and recorded Animals ….

Their deal with record company EMI, for unlimited studio time in return for a reduced percentage of sales, had expired, and they converted the building into a recording studio and storage facility.

Its construction took up most of 1975, and in April 1976 the band started work on their tenth studio album, Animals. Parts of The Wall, including the famous school chorus on “Another Brick in the Wall”, were also recorded here.

Sound engineer Nick Griffiths recruited the kids – an entire music class (and its teacher) – from the Islington Green School, located around the corner from Britannia Row facilities."


http://www.planetpropertyblog.co.uk/2012/04/04/wish-you-were-here-rent-pink-floyds-old-recording-studio/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia_Row_Studios

DanMan
03-22-2016, 01:52 PM
The gal just got me this for my birthday. Anyone know any history behind it? Is that a statue of a musical note on its side?


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martin2395
03-24-2016, 02:41 PM
Those 4350 looks like they've been destroyed on purpose judging by how the remaining part of the studio looks like, same for the 4343 - plundered the units and destroyed the cabs. Shame.

Goldjazz
03-26-2016, 06:13 PM
Those 4350 looks like they've been destroyed on purpose judging by how the remaining part of the studio looks like, same for the 4343 - plundered the units and destroyed the cabs. Shame.

Yep here's the same 4350s with the woofers and tweeter still there and the cabinets not damaged. Even looks like the grill leaning against the wall.

SEAWOLF97
03-26-2016, 06:33 PM
Yep here's the same 4350s with the woofers and tweeter still there and the cabinets not damaged. Even looks like the grill leaning against the wall.

makes you wonder what on all those tapes ? :dont-know:

Malefoda
03-21-2017, 10:40 AM
Here are the passed away '80s... And Balavoine. RIP.
4411 used.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11gxmj_daniel-balavoine-en-studio-avec-tout-les-cris-les-sos-partie-1_music

Goldjazz
04-16-2017, 05:40 PM
This is Genesis recording the album "Wind and Wuthering studio" in 1976 at Relight studios in the Netherlands....I suspect some heads may have come in contact with the corners of those monitors, hence the ad hoc corner padding :)

LowPhreak
04-16-2017, 11:19 PM
This is Genesis recording the album "Wind and Wuthering studio" in 1976 at Relight studios in the Netherlands...


Noice! :bouncy:

hsosdrum
04-17-2017, 12:13 PM
Does it strike anyone else as odd that the horns/tweeters were placed on the outside, next to the walls? A sure-fire recipe for creating a high-amplitude first reflection that will time-smear the direct sound (but then what do I know)?

P.S. I've always found that album ("Wind and Wuthering") to be completely lacking in bass, on both the vinyl and the CD pressings. The band kicked ass on those songs when they played them live during their 1977 tour, though.

Mr. Widget
04-17-2017, 03:43 PM
Does it strike anyone else as odd that the horns/tweeters were placed on the outside, next to the walls?Those walls appear to be fabric covered and padded, so it may not have been an issue.



Widget

DavidF
04-17-2017, 05:50 PM
Does it strike anyone else as odd that the horns/tweeters were placed on the outside, next to the walls? A sure-fire recipe for creating a high-amplitude first reflection that will time-smear the direct sound (but then what do I know)?

P.S. I've always found that album ("Wind and Wuthering") to be completely lacking in bass, on both the vinyl and the CD pressings. The band kicked ass on those songs when they played them live during their 1977 tour, though.


Those walls appear to be fabric covered and padded, so it may not have been an issue.



Widget

All that plus it appears to be a tracking studio so not such a problem on raw tracks. Then there is always "that's how the owner wants 'em."

LowPhreak
04-17-2017, 06:56 PM
I've always found that album ("Wind and Wuthering") to be completely lacking in bass, on both the vinyl and the CD pressings. The band kicked ass on those songs when they played them live during their 1977 tour, though.

Yeah, W and W certainly didn't have ye olde Moogish bottom end that other albums like Trick of the Tail did, or tracks like say, Firth of Fifth from Selling England...

One of my fave prog records though.

DavidF - Looks like the owner was trying for some "free" treble separation there, given how close together both sides are mounted. Which is kinda dumb since they're not even symmetrical (different angles). lol Unless the rightmost speaker is really a center and there's another one further right. (?)

hsosdrum
04-19-2017, 01:29 PM
Those walls appear to be fabric covered and padded, so it may not have been an issue.

Widget

True, although the padding would have to be at least 6 inches thick to be an effective absorber down to 1kHz.

organeu
09-06-2017, 02:12 PM
JBL IN THE 70's the great JBL years, the world leader.
Today year 2017 more than ever JBL with all the power of Harman is the world leader.

Goldjazz
09-19-2017, 03:56 AM
Stewart Copeland (The Police) with some 4315's from around 1983

hsosdrum
09-19-2017, 12:19 PM
Looks like they went a bit overboard on the wall diffusers in that room...

Chevelle
09-19-2017, 01:19 PM
Here is a backstage / monitor pic from a Scorpions French Tour in the early 80s. Watch the stacking of JBL 4550 bottom, 4560 on top with a assembling of 2395 slant plates, horns and 075 bullets. Drivers were most JBL and Gauss, all AlNiCo of course. I remember we had Crown DC300 and BGW750 amps, you can see a rack behind the PA. Monitor desk was Soundcraft I think, lots of Klark Teknik EQs. We did not think about phase problems when we set up PA systems, horns were always on top, sometimes side by side. I worked for Scorpions from 75 till 84 and did hundreds of gigs with them.

Malefoda
09-19-2017, 02:21 PM
Jean-Michel Jarre and L16?
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Belgian band "Machiavel"
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Goldjazz
09-20-2017, 02:12 AM
Looks like they went a bit overboard on the wall diffusers in that room...

Hard to tell. I think its just some wacky 70s cartoon strip wallpaper.

Goldjazz
09-20-2017, 02:14 AM
Jean-Michel Jarre and L16?
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Belgian band "Machiavel"
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Nice finds! its getting harder to find good pictures like these that show the jbls really clearly.

Goldjazz
09-20-2017, 02:16 AM
I worked for Scorpions from 75 till 84 and did hundreds of gigs with them.

This is really cool thanks for sharing.

hsosdrum
09-20-2017, 05:14 PM
Hard to tell. I think its just some wacky 70s cartoon strip wallpaper.

Indeed it was! Thanks for the close-up photo.

Malefoda
09-21-2017, 02:59 AM
Patato Valdés
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Mike Caldwell
09-21-2017, 06:21 AM
Here is a backstage / monitor pic from a Scorpions French Tour in the early 80s. Watch the stacking of JBL 4550 bottom, 4560 on top with a assembling of 2395 slant plates, horns and 075 bullets. Drivers were most JBL and Gauss, all AlNiCo of course. I remember we had Crown DC300 and BGW750 amps, you can see a rack behind the PA. Monitor desk was Soundcraft I think, lots of Klark Teknik EQs. We did not think about phase problems when we set up PA systems, horns were always on top, sometimes side by side. I worked for Scorpions from 75 till 84 and did hundreds of gigs with them.

Thanks for the picture, I always like early concert production pictures and info.
What work did you for the Scorpions?

Chevelle
09-21-2017, 08:22 AM
Hello Mike,

I started 1975 as a backline roadie. We were only two guys and I was the only one with a driving licence. As nobody was interested in lights I put together a small lighting system and became the "lighting designer". After 79 we were three guys, one for backline, one for "P.A." and one for lighting. In 1979 we did our first Japan tour, 1980 our first U.S. tour as support band. I was payed per month by the band so I had to work for them also between the gigs in the rehearsal room or in the studio during recording. As I started my own rental service I had to quit Scorpions 1984. We still meet once a year and tell stories....

Hjalmar



Thanks for the picture, I always like early concert production pictures and info.
What work did you for the Scorpions?

hsosdrum
09-21-2017, 07:11 PM
I started 1975 as a backline roadie. We were only two guys and I was the only one with a driving licence. As nobody was interested in lights I put together a small lighting system and became the "lighting designer". After 79 we were three guys, one for backline, one for "P.A." and one for lighting. In 1979 we did our first Japan tour, 1980 our first U.S. tour as support band. I was payed per month by the band so I had to work for them also between the gigs in the rehearsal room or in the studio during recording. As I started my own rental service I had to quit Scorpions 1984. We still meet once a year and tell stories....

You should definitely record those (only for posterity, of course...)

Goldjazz
09-22-2017, 03:53 AM
https://beatlesblogger.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/14040.jpg

Chevelle
09-23-2017, 12:55 AM
Here is a very bad picture from about 1975 of Scorpions "PA" system stage right. On the bottom was a selfmade frontloaded basshorn with two K140. On top of the bassbin two 4560 side by side (!) with unknown speakers. Horns were two 2350 with 2440 and one 2355 with 2482. On top of all a little box with two 075 bullets. All driven by two Crown DC300 amps.
The other picture shows the backline setup done by me every day.....

Hjalmr



You should definitely record those (only for posterity, of course...)

Malefoda
09-23-2017, 01:40 AM
Danke Schöne!
Despised here in France in the '90s it's nice they are now respected as one of the best. Meet the Schenker bros, man that's a dream! Anyway, do you have some censored and dedicated LPs for us to become rich ;)
Again thanks for sharing with us!

Chevelle
09-23-2017, 02:27 AM
We did so many France tours in the 70s and 80s, also Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg. I remember when they had 110v mains in France, we always had to improvise. Also the French promoters were different.....


Danke Schöne!
Despised here in France in the '90s it's nice they are now respected as one of the best. Meet the Schenker bros, man that's a dream! Anyway, do you have some censored and dedicated LPs for us to become rich ;)
Again thanks for sharing with us!

Goldjazz
09-27-2017, 01:50 AM
She had a pretty cool home studio. I'm gonna guess those are 4311's

http://www.preservationsound.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Ciani_HomeStudio_82.jpg

Chevelle
10-04-2017, 12:31 PM
I guesss there are a few JBL speakers among them......

hsosdrum
10-04-2017, 01:12 PM
I'm pretty sure the Wall of Sound was all JBLs except for the EV T-35 horn tweeters.

SEAWOLF97
10-04-2017, 04:33 PM
She had a pretty cool home studio. I'm gonna guess those are 4311's

http://www.preservationsound.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Ciani_HomeStudio_82.jpg

here's a little better angle

4345
10-25-2017, 06:36 AM
Let's not forget the loudest rock band in the world. Spinal Tap. I hope you can see the 2395's on top of a double 12 or 15 cab. I also think there are 4 2402's surrounding the 2395's. These can be seen in a few scenes in the movie.

Goldjazz
11-01-2018, 02:13 AM
Phil gives the 4311's a thumbs up.

https://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/studiomaster/phil-c.jpg

jbl4314
11-01-2018, 02:47 PM
82691

Goldjazz
11-01-2018, 06:06 PM
82691

Wow great find. Just trying to work out what they are, thought they may be L26's but the Logo looks to be bottom right corner of the grill whereas its top right on the L26. I see Lennon also had the same amp I have a Sansui au-11000 which is the black one.

jbl4314
11-01-2018, 10:53 PM
can be the l40

Goldjazz
11-17-2018, 07:15 PM
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/58c05299d1758ee4dddf131e/t/5b48668aaa4a997984b563dc/1531471513558/Pettymagic.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/56/cf/f3/56cff34f5db4f160cc961dc7d81c2de5--tom-petty-toms.jpg
...and pointing to them too :)

Goldjazz
11-30-2018, 09:54 PM
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Goldjazz
12-03-2018, 04:44 AM
some of the band, I think with one of their producers

Goldjazz
12-03-2018, 04:47 AM
Of Argent, the Zombies

hsosdrum
12-11-2018, 07:46 PM
Let's not forget the loudest rock band in the world. Spinal Tap. I hope you can see the 2395's on top of a double 12 or 15 cab. I also think there are 4 2402's surrounding the 2395's. These can be seen in a few scenes in the movie.

I hadn't noticed this photo until today. The sound system in This Is Spinal Tap seems to be one of the ones built and supplied by TFA Electrosound. Back in 1977 I worked at TFA Electrosound for a couple of weeks; the entry-level job they assigned me was using a continuity tester to check the drivers in 100 or so speaker cabinets returning from a tour with Ted Nugent. All the drivers were JBL; about 35% of them were blown. (I was told that was typical for systems that Nugent used.) Once I had finished testing all the enclosures and doing some other menial work I left for the (then) much greener pastures of consumer hi-fi.

jbl4314
04-07-2019, 12:51 PM
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jbl4314
06-20-2020, 12:39 PM
Jbl 4311

Goldjazz
06-23-2021, 04:44 AM
Jbl 4311

Well spotted, nice find. Thanks for keeping the thread alive

martin2395
03-20-2024, 03:13 PM
This is Genesis recording the album "Wind and Wuthering studio" in 1976 at Relight studios in the Netherlands....I suspect some heads may have come in contact with the corners of those monitors, hence the ad hoc corner padding :)

Just a heads up, this pair is still around and has been sold somewhere last year.
https://robertmelchers.nl/index.php/nl/luidspreker-boxen/8-luidspreker-boxen/281-jbl-4350-a-studio-monitoren