Is this a new driver from JBL ?

[Niklas Nord]

http://www.jblsynthesis.com/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=S1S-EX&Language=ENG&Country=US&Region=USA

18" aquaplas

JBL S1S-EX

[Niklas Nord]

And a new 10" driver with Aquaplas

JBL 2251J

http://www.jblsynthesis.com/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=SK2-1000DG&Language=ENG&Country=US&Region=USA

[4313B]

Originally posted by Niklas Nord
http://www.jblsynthesis.com/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=S1S-EX&Language=ENG&Country=US&Region=USA

18" aquaplas

JBL S1S-EX This is the driver still listed for the S1S-EX:

Low-Frequency Transducer 2242HPL 18" (457mm)

[Zilch]

Heh, heh.

We have elsewhere here discussed using LE10A's to make a center channel MTM, and also using the 4612 format.

A single L77 would be a start, replacing the PR with a second LE10A.

A pair of 4612OK cabinets with crossovers just sold on eBay for $51.01. Another worthy pursuit, apparently....

[Alex Lancaster]

Giskard:

On the picture, the surround and dome look like a 2245, old picture perhaps?

[Earl K]

Heh There,

- Maybe someone at JBL has been reading Bo(s') refoaming thread. They must of decided that a "foamed-up" 2242(s) was the way to go.

- Checkout this 15" sub ( somewhere in the Synthesis midline stuff ). Looks like a 2226h .


<. Earl K

[4313B]

Alex, it could be an old picture...

I know the S1S used to be tuned to 30 Hz for the 2245H (along with early production runs using the 2242H's) but now it's tuned to 25 Hz for the 2242H just like the 4645C is.

*****

Earl, that looks like an S2S which has used the 136HS and the 2235H-1S.

[Earl K]

that looks like an S2S which has used the 136HS and the 2235H-1S.

Alrighty then, what are those parts ? Is that a 90(s) generation motor structure (ie 2242 ) with the newer/wider .06" gap, cut by a deep voice coil?

,> Earl K

[Alex Lancaster]

Isn't the gap on 2241/2´s much wider than .060"?

[Earl K]

Hi

Isn't the gap on 2241/2´s much wider than .060"?

A reconer would know this . But I'm under the impression that it's .06" .

For the sake of clarity ;

The 2242h "top-plate" is @ 1/2" thick - giving a gap (depth) of 1/2" .

"Gap Width" is the measurement across the circular cut in the top-plate ( measured across the opening ) . These "widths" have been opening up as the top-plates (gap-depth) have been getting deeper. This helps power handling as well as giving more clearance for long stroking-coils to avoid hitting the top-plates sidewalls . The economic downside is that to maintain similar gauss levels within the gap - magnets have had to add mass .

The 1500AL series is now up to a .1" opening in the gap width. It's Depth - I forget ( is maybe 1.6" ) . It's gauss level has dropped but that hasn't hindered it's reported ability for higher "resolution" .

<. Earl K

[4313B]

The 1500AL has maintained the same basic motor strength as the 2231/2234/2235.

The 1500FE is the one with the higher motor strength with a Bl around 25 T*m

[Niklas Nord]

But is the 2242 a Aquaplas -driver ?
The picture must be an old one, a 2245..

[Earl K]

Thanks ! My omission. :rolleyes:


The 1500AL has maintained the same basic motor strength as the 2231/2234/2235.

Yes, it's very important to point out that gauss level is only one factor of a few in the determination of "motor-strength" .

<. Earl K

[4313B]

I hadn't been able to look at the picture until now. It's quite old. That's a 2245H.

Here's the new Synthesis S1S with the 2242H.

[Niklas Nord]

God damn those subs are cool...

[Guido]

I prefer Ralf's
They are :cool: