Do these remind you of anything?

[audiomagnate]

I have three of these horns, 2371s and two spare B&W 801 cabinets. I was putting the horns on eBay when a lightbulb came on right over my head. The horns are mated with 2416H-1 drivers, which frankly sound terrible. They all came out of some nasty sounding G-730 PA speakers I got when I bought some monster Cerwin Vega power amps, which I love. The Array 1400 is the best sounding speaker I've ever heard, and I've been planning on some sort of clone in the future, but I was wondering if there is a driver that would mate up with these horns, along with a tweeter that would sound decent in this application? These would possibly keep me happy until I can afford the real thing, or at least a real clone. BTW, these horns are not the same as the 2370A three hole type sold ot Parts Express, the driver just screws on.

[subwoof]

the G series used the 2415 driver which had holes in the phase plug vs the radial slits on the later 2416. the only way to tell is to remove the dia.

A *properly* aligned 2416H-1 works quite well and is used in the 4425 studio monitor.

You can also remove the adapter from a 2426 and use it BUT remember that the 2371 horn is shorter and has a different flare than the array model so many crossover changes are required.

sub

[audiomagnate]

My phase plug has holes, not slits, but the diaphragm is clearly stamped 2416. What do you mean by *properly* aligned? All three horns are identically marked. If this driver horn combo could be made to sound remotely hi-fi vs the way it sounds in the G-730, I would be astounded.

[badman]

What do you mean by *properly* aligned?

I'm assuming he means with a thorough, steep, crossover with appropriate corrections applied.

[grumpy]

words are funny... I figured what was meant was physical alignment...
possibly the lower end drivers having to be adjusted a bit more, or more
often when installing a diaphragm.

[audiomagnate]

words are funny... I figured what was meant was physical alignment...
possibly the lower end drivers having to be adjusted a bit more, or more
often when installing a diaphragm.

It's a CD horn, which is a good thing, right? The same horns goes for almost $300 each at Parts Express. There must be a reason. I'm just going to start playing around with this idea tomorrow.

[Allanvh5150]

the G series used the 2415 driver which had holes in the phase plug vs the radial slits on the later 2416. the only way to tell is to remove the dia.

A *properly* aligned 2416H-1 works quite well and is used in the 4425 studio monitor.

You can also remove the adapter from a 2426 and use it BUT remember that the 2371 horn is shorter and has a different flare than the array model so many crossover changes are required.

sub

These drivers always get me confused. I have seen the G series drivers with holes and slots, both labeled 2415.

Allan.

[badman]

It's a CD horn, which is a good thing, right? The same horns goes for almost $300 each at Parts Express. There must be a reason. I'm just going to start playing around with this idea tomorrow.

Yes. CD is a very, very good thing :)

[audiomagnate]

Yes. CD is a very, very good thing :)

Yeah, but what should I screw into it? I can design a crossover, but I need something to work with.

[Allanvh5150]

The 2416 can sound OK. Maybe you are best to try with what you have.

Allan.

[badman]

The "progressive transition" horns and their equivalents (clones) from dayton and Pyle are pretty popular and have good CD behavior.

You could DIY the horn... it's rough though.

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/diy/1110/oblate_spheroid_waveguides.htm


Yeah, but what should I screw into it? I can design a crossover, but I need something to work with.

[audiomagnate]

The 2416 can sound OK. Maybe you are best to try with what you have.

Allan.

Played around with the 2416/7321 combo last night for an hour or two. Not very encouraging. There is a nasty peak in those puppies in the upper midrange. I'll hook up an eq tonight to zero in on where it is.