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4313B
09-13-2004, 06:46 AM
Ok...

Anyone with step by step instructions on how to create this kind of finish? :)

LE15-Thumper
09-13-2004, 08:15 AM
Try this http://www.lungster.com/l/speakers/pianofinish.html

LE15-Thumper
09-13-2004, 08:56 AM
Here are some more : http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Duplicating_a_black_lacquer_finish.html

http://forum.doityourself.com/archive/index.php/t-18764.html

http://www.xs4all.nl/~josvanr/piano.html

http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Polyester_finishing_techniques.html


From what I have read so far, you will need a pretty good spray gun.


HTH

whgeiger
09-13-2004, 09:04 AM
G,

For fit and finish issues, see

Volvotreter’s Homepage
http://www.volvotreter.de/

Best DIY designed, fit & finish enclosures encountered to date.

Regards,

WHG

4313B
09-13-2004, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by LE15-Thumper
From what I have read so far, you will need a pretty good spray gun.Yeah, I'm thinking the "stand back three feet and flick the 3" wide paint brush" ain't gonna work. :rotfl:

Thanks for the links HTH and WHG. :)

Audiobeer
09-13-2004, 09:16 AM
Lot's of freaking wet sanding spraying and rubbing.........It gets physical!:bomb:

4313B
09-13-2004, 09:26 AM
I ought to just let you do it Audiobeer :p

Audiobeer
09-15-2004, 12:28 PM
What are you working on G?

4313B
09-15-2004, 07:44 PM
The latest edict from the better-half is that black or white lacquer finishes would be highly appreciated for all future loudspeaker projects. :rotfl:

In other words, the girl saw the finish on a pair of XPL90A's and fell in love... :p

Alex Lancaster
09-15-2004, 07:51 PM
Next it´ll be rhinestone pavé cabinets.

Audiobeer
09-15-2004, 08:20 PM
If you decide to do it I can walk you through it. On a new build it's not hard just so damn time consuming. And then the hand rubbing will make a hammer out of your arm! If you saw me you can tell I haven't done very many of late. Acrylics and resin shortcuts look good but never truly black. In addition they are a bitch to repair if scratched. Nothing beats laquer years after applied.

LE15-Thumper
09-15-2004, 08:45 PM
Check these out !

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=302-750


New item at PE looks good !

Read about the finish.

:idea: If they are half as good as they say, all we'll have to do is ask for bigger ones ! (Cabinets that is !) :D

andresohc
09-15-2004, 10:03 PM
Unfortunately I cant seem to buy lacquer paint in California. Something about the ozone layer. I would love to shoot my XPL200A clones in black lacquer if anyone has a suggestion on how to acquire the stuff legally in CA.
I also have an old mix of white lacquer that I could black with pigments, but the shops wont even sell me the tint. :mad:

I cant see painting my xpls 1969 volkswagen campermobile white.

I do have a full set up for painting black polyurethane in a two stage process. Boy the new clears are durable, but its right that if later damaged, not as easy to fix, plus the new stuff isnt nearly as forgiving of ham handed sprayers (me). Easy to orange peel, not easy to sand out.

Mr. Widget
09-15-2004, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Audiobeer
Acrylics and resin shortcuts look good but never truly black. In addition they are a bitch to repair if scratched. Nothing beats laquer years after applied.

For a high-gloss finish I typically use a rubbed out lacquer technique as it has a look that is hard to beat with "easier" methods. I recently used a catalyzed urethane clear that really flows out like glass and requires little or no rubbing. It is much nicer than similar products from PPG, SW, DuPont, etc. It is from a company called Alsa who sell to hot rod/custom car shops.

http://www.alsacorp.com/products/alsaclear/alsaclear_price.htm

Basically use a black basecoat, color sand it and spray on the clear. It still takes some skill and probably won't work as well if you don't have a top quality gun with very dry air.

BTW you MUST wear a positive pressure powered respirator with this finish as it is extremely toxic... Ok never mind, I guess it really isn't for the DIY crowd, but it does a great job fast.

Widget