Ordering JBL From Japan

[Vintage Nut]

Does anyone know if it's possible to order from this website and have speakers sent to North America? http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/jbl/hifi/ Is there too much red tape to deal with? I realize shipping would not be cheap, but they've got a nice line up of speakers, especially in the 43XX Studio Monitor section. Yummie! I'm assuming these speakers are faithful quality from JBL - or are they cheap versions?

It looks like there is a pair of 4312MKII on ebay right now (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-JBL-4312-4312M-II-BK-3Way-Compact-Studio-Monitor-/260753647700?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb620e854#ht_1034wt_1139), but I'd rather check out these guys http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/jbl/hifi/4307/

[Eaulive]

Nice line-up.
Unfortunately it seems in North America the majority settled for minicomponents and MP3s :banghead:

[HCSGuy]

You cannot order from Harman Japan. You have to order through a Japanese JBL dealer, and arrange shipping through them. Harman does not trans-ship, so the speakers will probably have to go to the dealer in Japan, then back to you, so freight will be prohibitive. That's why we see so few pairs here...

[Vintage Nut]

Yeah, I figured shipping would be a big hurdle, just didn't know if there was some kind of hassle related to customs or whatever. I have plenty of personal contacts in Japan, but don't really want to intrude on anyone right now with what's going on with earthquakes and such. Maybe I'll look into it again at some point down the road.

[Audiobeer]

Be kind of cool for those interested to put something together to make it cost feasible?

[Mr. Widget]

There is another issue. Harman will not extend warranty coverage for products that are sold to individuals not living in the region the product was originally sold in.


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[Eaulive]

There is another issue. Harman will not extend warranty coverage for products that are sold to individuals not living in the region the product was originally sold in.


Widget

They should, if the product goes back to Japan for servicing.

[Mr. Widget]

They should, if the product goes back to Japan for servicing.Technically the dealer is breaking his agreement with Harman to sell it to you if you do not live in his region, that said, if you do have a dealer willing to work with you and you ship it back to the dealer, you could probably get the warranty coverage, but it is not certain and it will be very expensive.


The bottom line is, in dealing with a large multinational corporation, you need to play by their rules if you really want to cover your tail.


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[Eaulive]

Technically the dealer is breaking his agreement with Harman to sell it to you if you do not live in his region

Widget

That is also true, but to be exact I think the problem lies in shipping to that region. If you happen to go to Japan and buy the stuff there, no problem, you will just have to go back there if you need to claim.

In this case however, deliberately shipping overseas may cause a problem with most dealers.

[4313B]

Best course is probably not to bother buying any of their bullshit anywhere. :rotfl:

[John]

Best course is probably not to bother buying any of their bullshit anywhere. :rotfl:

:yes:Yup

[hjames]

That is also true, but to be exact I think the problem lies in shipping to that region. If you happen to go to Japan and buy the stuff there, no problem, you will just have to go back there if you need to claim.

In this case however, deliberately shipping overseas may cause a problem with most dealers.

If they make it that damned hard to buy their speakers, just buy speakers from someone else, ya know?

[martin_wu99]

I think it's a good way to obtain your favorite JBLs from Japan.

[Lee in Montreal]

I think it's a good way to obtain your favorite JBLs from Japan.

Radioactive glow-in-the-dark JBL system... Hmmm... Get your Geiger meter when you open the package. :D

[martin_wu99]

Radioactive glow-in-the-dark JBL system... Hmmm... Get your Geiger meter when you open the package. :D
That's the fact that you must take account:eek:

[JBL 4645]

Radioactive glow-in-the-dark JBL system... Hmmm... Get your Geiger meter when you open the package. :D

At least they’d be nuclear powered JBL! :thmbsup: You won’t need a amplifier they’ve already been super charged! :p Radio-active three-way! 1.21 gigawatts!

Do they have any JBL B460? I guess this gives a whole new meaning to nuclear-active powered subs.:D

Best bet is to buy a Geiger counter. It’s the only way to know for sure but I guess customs have this covered before allowing anything in the county.

http://img.ehow.com/article-page-main/ehow-uk/images/a06/2f/a1/geiger-counter-works-800x800.jpg

I’m going to be thinking twice now before buying anything from Japan. I feel bad for what happened over there.:(

[Lee in Montreal]

That's the fact that you must take account:eek:

The situation is indeed getting more serious than people think. The level of danger has reached Tchernobyl level with one of the power plants, while the foreign authorities have recognized that the Japanese administration hasn't been totally transparent in the past and present. Therefore there must be way more problems that is officially recognized. Tough time to buy stuff from Northern Japan.

[Maron Horonzakz]

If JBL will not support the customer,,Dont support JBL.

[hjames]

If JBL will not support the customer,,Dont support JBL.

Bingo!! Give that man a sweet cigar!
After the AVR7300 I won't buy anything with a HARMAN label again ...
and it looks like the only JBL I buy is vintage!

[JBL 4645]

If JBL will not support the customer,,Dont support JBL.

Maybe you should work for JBL to put it back into prospective. Made by JBL people by for the JBL people.:)

[4313B]

I think it's a good way to obtain your favorite JBLs from Japan.Me too.

Anyone should be able to buy anything anywhere on Earth and get it supported. It's called GLOBALIZATION.


Bingo!! Give that man a sweet cigar!
After the AVR7300 I won't buy anything with a HARMAN label again ...
and it looks like the only JBL I buy is vintage!That's probably the best bet. Fortunately there appears to be plenty of vintage JBL still around. Those folks in Northridge cranked out alot of product over the years.

BTW - This in wall subwoofer I recently bought off the JBL website is really pathetic. The voice coil gap is open to contamination. I would have been pissed beyond belief if I'd spent more than $88 for it. Hell, I'm pissed I wasted that much. That's alot of lunch money to simply toss in the trash. What was the list on these things? Something like $500? That'd have seriously pissed me off. I shudder to think.

[JBL 4645]

Me too.

Anyone should be able to buy anything anywhere on Earth and get it supported. It's called GLOBALIZATION.

That's probably the best bet. Fortunately there appears to be plenty of vintage JBL still around. Those folks in Northridge cranked out alot of product over the years.

BTW - This in wall subwoofer I recently bought off the JBL website is really pathetic. The voice coil gap is open to contamination. I would have been pissed beyond belief if I'd spent more than $88 for it. Hell, I'm pissed I wasted that much. That's alot of lunch money to simply toss in the trash. What was the list on these things? Something like $500? That'd have seriously pissed me off. I shudder to think.

I’ve seen the list on the Harman site and I’m a little sceptical on it. Which model did you buy and you have full right be mighty huge pissed off and fanged to teeth.

Maybe you need to experiment by cutting several more holes in walls. Until you realize you’ve got no walls left because it looks like cheese with holes in! :D

Why not build an IBS and use the floor or ceiling.

[1audiohack]

The situation is indeed getting more serious than people think. The level of danger has reached Tchernobyl level with one of the power plants, while the foreign authorities have recognized that the Japanese administration hasn't been totally transparent in the past and present. Therefore there must be way more problems that is officially recognized.

The Fukushima thing is a disaster for sure, but the Chernobyl event was and is a true catastsrophy. Very different events and dangers.

[he day]

Just for your information you might want to check this store.

http://jbl43.com/

[Lee in Montreal]

The Fukushima thing is a disaster for sure, but the Chernobyl event was and is a true catastsrophy. Very different events and dangers.

Indeed. Two diferent events with different repercussions. But rated at the same level. The difference is that Chenobyl was in the middle of nowhere and that it was not too difficult to create a large safety zone all around the area. Fukishima is by the ocean, meaning the contaminants are thrown directly in the sea and will travel... Also, Japan is small and heavily populated. Is Japan ready to loose a large chunk of its territory to rats and buzzards if the region is declared off-limit?

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/04/japan-ups-the-fukushima-event-to-same-level-as-chernobyl.ars

[richluvsound]

Just for your information you might want to check this store.

http://jbl43.com/

Kenji is ok and so is his family . I got an email from him last week .


Anyway, most of his gear is made by gents on the forum :D


Rich

[Eaulive]

Kenji is ok and so is his family . I got an email from him last week .


Anyway, most of his gear is made by gents on the forum :D


Rich

Visiting this site is better than porn :applaud::hurray::thmbsup:

[brutal]

Does anyone know if it's possible to order from this website and have speakers sent to North America? http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/jbl/hifi/ Is there too much red tape to deal with? I realize shipping would not be cheap, but they've got a nice line up of speakers, especially in the 43XX Studio Monitor section. Yummie! I'm assuming these speakers are faithful quality from JBL - or are they cheap versions?

It looks like there is a pair of 4312MKII on ebay right now (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-JBL-4312-4312M-II-BK-3Way-Compact-Studio-Monitor-/260753647700?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb620e854#ht_1034wt_1139), but I'd rather check out these guys http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/jbl/hifi/4307/

Those would be super easy and cheap to ship. ;)

4312M-II-BK <> 4312MKII

[coruphius]

Kenji is ok and so is his family . I got an email from him last week .


Anyway, most of his gear is made by gents on the forum :D


Rich

I absolutlely love Kenji's work, i have subscribed to his youtube videos and have also downloaded alot of his pictures of his work and have them as backgrounds on my pc, he is one hell of an inspiration to me and i hope to have the knowledge one day of restoring these remarkable 43 series speakers and keeping them alive for years to come. i dont know much about building boxes but im sure if i study hard, i will get there :D

[richluvsound]

You should check out " Saeman " here on the forum . He is the "rick" half of KENRICK .... another member here builds the networks for them .... there is another forum fella in London that builds pretty good 43xx also . His networks are built and designed by Guido ,yet another member ......:D

Good luck with the study - its well worth it while you can find the parts .

Rich


http://www.behringer-electric.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12&Itemid=144

[coruphius]

thank you very much for that :D and i shall get ready to ride the jbl 43 series rollercoaster :D

[Vintage Nut]

Just for your information you might want to check this store.

http://jbl43.com/


Thanks for the link! I now remember seeing that website a few years ago but had forgotten all about it.

[moparfan]

I think that is fair; but do you think this extends to refusing parts availability at my expense also?

Off the topic...
http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/jbl/hifi/4365/
From a google translate of the 4365:
"In addition to the bias between the two capacitors, the charge circuit is adopted to reduce the strain JBL カップル・リニアディフィニション・ネットワーク own to improve the linearity of the device operation is performed by the class A. In 4365, newly employed, self-bias and bias does not require a battery to supply a bias in rectifying some of the input signal."

Have you guys talked about this?

[Odd]

I think that is fair; but do you think this extends to refusing parts availability at my expense also?

Off the topic...
http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/jbl/hifi/4365/
From a google translate of the 4365:
"In addition to the bias between the two capacitors, the charge circuit is adopted to reduce the strain JBL カップル・リニアディフィニション・ネットワーク own to improve the linearity of the device operation is performed by the class A. In 4365, newly employed, self-bias and bias does not require a battery to supply a bias in rectifying some of the input signal."

Have you guys talked about this?

More info on the subject here,
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?29370-New-JBL-43xx-Studio-Monitor/page2

[moparfan]

More info on the subject here,
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?29370-New-JBL-43xx-Studio-Monitor/page2

Perfect!