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4313B
09-08-2010, 05:48 AM
All references to this new Studio Monitor have been removed as per Harman Japan. Evidently someone there reads this forum and they were "extremely displeased" that there was any mention of the new monitor since Stereo Sound wants exclusive announcement in their September 2010 issue. We are free to do whatever after that time.

caladois
09-08-2010, 05:59 AM
No comments !!!!

4313B
09-08-2010, 06:19 AM
No comments !!!!Dude... everytime I see your avatar I'm reminded of how much I really like my 4338-type clones... 1500AL in 5 cu ft box tuned to 28 Hz, 476Be bolted to the H4338, modified Everest II network. No 045Be just yet, I'm not sure if I will bother. I was looking for a stellar replacement for my 4430's and these do the job just fine.

I absolutely do miss the shear impact of my 4345 clones, especially at the low volumes I usually listen at, but I don't miss the nearly twice as large boxes. Even 5 cu ft is a pain to deal with anymore. :rotfl:

caladois
09-08-2010, 06:26 AM
Dude... I really like my 4338-type clones... 1500AL in 5 cu ft box tuned to 28 Hz, 476Be bolted to the H4338, modified Everest II network. No 045Be just yet, I'm not sure if I will bother. I was looking for a stellar replacement for my 4430's and these do the job just fine.

I absolutely do miss the shear impact of my 4345 clones, especially at the low volumes I usually listen at, but I don't miss the nearly twice as large boxes. Even 5 cu ft is a pain to deal with anymore. :rotfl:

and another no comment:bouncy: except that I would love a listening session of your 43XX clones

BMWCCA
09-08-2010, 07:09 PM
I would love a listening session of your 43XX clones


:D Me, too!


Note to Don: When's the listening party? ;)

spkrman57
09-13-2010, 11:51 AM
Dude... everytime I see your avatar I'm reminded of how much I really like my 4338-type clones... 1500AL in 5 cu ft box tuned to 28 Hz, 476Be bolted to the H4338, modified Everest II network. No 045Be just yet, I'm not sure if I will bother. I was looking for a stellar replacement for my 4430's and these do the job just fine.



I agree as someone who loves simple 2-way systems that image like no tomorrow!

Ron

baldrick
09-14-2010, 12:58 AM
This sound very strange since they already have been released in Norway :confused:

http://www.lydogbilde.no/nye-klassiske-jbl-hoeyttalere.4814969-45376.html

caladois
09-14-2010, 02:43 AM
More than strange !!!! Does it mean that Japan is no more exclusive (for JBL) :)

tHANKS FOR SHARING

4313B
09-14-2010, 06:17 AM
I'm pretty sure Harman Japan and Harman Europe are like the left hand and the right hand. ;)

I asked Greg once about using that 4429 in a 5.1 and his response was "That would be killer!"

Five of these puppies and a pair of custom, blue baffled 1500 Arrays would probably do it.

Valentin
09-14-2010, 08:37 AM
100000 crown for the mini K2 s9900 16000 usd

that is less than have price with this prespective it is a steal

and in this photo it looks nice

for 16000 you get a Revel Studio 2

I like a lot more the JBL 4365 (more speaker ) and it probably sounds better than my Array 1400

nice work in a couple of weeks will have more information

Valentin
09-14-2010, 08:39 AM
More than strange !!!! Does it mean that Japan is no more exclusive (for JBL) :)

tHANKS FOR SHARING

hope thats the new yellow brick road

4313B
09-14-2010, 08:42 AM
I like a lot more the JBL 4365 (more speaker ) and it probably sounds better than my Array 1400 Jerry seems pretty happy with the way the cloth surround worked out. It should last forever.

The combination of the fifteen and the four-inch compression driver bolted to that splendid sonoglass horn should sound pretty nice. :D

4313B
09-14-2010, 08:43 AM
hope thats the new yellow brick roadI just got the word that Harman Japan let them have a pair to show even though it slightly preceeded Harman Japan's own roll-out.

100000 crown for the mini K2 s9900 16000 usd

that is less than have price with this prespective it is a stealI'm a real sucker for the blue baffle and the old school box as opposed to the fancy and very expensive curved boxes.

Valentin
09-14-2010, 08:49 AM
I'm pretty sure Harman Japan and Harman Europe are like the left hand and the right hand. ;)

I asked Greg once about using that 4429 in a 5.1 and his response was "That would be killer!"

Five of these puppies and a pair of custom, blue baffled 1500 Arrays would probably do it.

:rockon2:

baldrick
09-14-2010, 09:52 AM
100000 crown for the mini K2 s9900 16000 usd


If the price in the article is correct, the 4368 will cost 100.000NOK.

As comparison, Array 1400 costs 80.000NOK and K2 S9900 250.000NOK (E2 = 450,000NOK)

caladois
09-14-2010, 01:53 PM
Harman Japan website is finally update.

http://www.harman-japan.co.jp/jbl/hifi/4365/

4313B
09-14-2010, 02:04 PM
And they have nice large photos to boot! :)

800,000 = 9,631.2 U.S. dollars

Valentin
09-14-2010, 05:15 PM
is that EACH or PAIR ??


each :crying:

but in norway its 100000 kroner pair 100,000.00 NOK=16,545.03 USD

but its seems a great speaker :bouncy:

caladois
09-15-2010, 02:21 AM
The price is just an estimation. Will depend of the distributors marges :confused: I am afraid it might grow up of 20 %.

Wait and see

ozata
09-16-2010, 04:10 AM
I do not see why they could not distribute the studios Monitors in Europe, Everest and K2 are much more and it sells!

:crying:

richluvsound
09-16-2010, 05:46 AM
:)

these will retail pretty close to the new K2 9900 . Harmon Europe wont under cut themselves by selling
pretty much the same components ,hence sound, for much less than the new K2 ..... would you ?


Rich

4313B
09-16-2010, 06:04 AM
The S9900 uses the 045BE while this new monitor uses the 045TI (roughly half the cost). The S9900 uses the 1500AL-1 while this new monitor uses a "cloth surround version of the 1500FE" (roughly half the cost). This new monitor has more bottom end than the S9900 as measured at JBL. The cloth surround worked out very well.

S9900
3.4 cu ft
F6 50 Hz Anechoic, 34 Hz 2Pi
F3 60 Hz Anechoic, 50 Hz 2 Pi

New Monitor
4.2 cu ft
F6 32 Hz Anechoic 28 Hz 2Pi
F3 38 Hz Anechoic 32 Hz 2 Pi

When I have time to draw the networks up in LEAP I'll do so and post them. The S9900 still uses a battery to bias some of the capacitors as well as diodes whereas the new studio monitor is all diodes.

richluvsound
09-16-2010, 08:01 AM
Cheers 4313b,

I still think they'll retail here in Europe for about 20 k- euro per pair.:(

I'll have to get to the Munich show and have a listen .

Rich

spkrman57
09-16-2010, 03:16 PM
When I have time to draw the networks up in LEAP I'll do so and post them. The S9900 still uses a battery to bias some of the capacitors as well as diodes whereas the new studio monitor is all diodes.


I did not know "diodes" were being used in crossovers!

Could you elaborate further at all?

Regards, Ron

4313B
09-16-2010, 04:57 PM
I did not know "diodes" were being used in crossovers!

Could you elaborate further at all?

Regards, RonSure. Here are the document schematics.

The K2-S9900 is using the diode on the low pass but retains the battery on the high pass just in case people want to bi-amp it. There usually isn't enough juice to the high pass to bias the capacitors in bi-amp mode, hence the battery.

spkrman57
09-16-2010, 06:35 PM
I guess I never thought of using the voltage going to the LF driver to be the power source for the CC circuit.

Very innovative!

Thanks, Ron

badman
09-28-2012, 12:00 PM
I guess I never thought of using the voltage going to the LF driver to be the power source for the CC circuit.

Very innovative!

Thanks, Ron

It's quite clever indeed! Though those of us using high-efficiency systems at home would never manage to actually get a stable bias- think I'll stick with batteries.

spkrman57
09-29-2012, 01:22 PM
My 100 db/watt system runs approx 1 watt/chnl on peaks, most of the time loafing around 400 - 600 mW chnl!

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