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Zilch
08-31-2010, 08:51 PM
Can't call it a clone, really, 'cause it doesn't exist.
2262HPL + 2432H on PT-F95HF in Dayton KD Trapezoid kit cab from Parts Express:
Robh3606
08-31-2010, 09:11 PM
Ok so what's the deal. Is there a different phase plug in the 2432 and can you drop a 2435 diaphram in there??
Rob:)
Zilch
08-31-2010, 09:29 PM
There's a cylindrical throat extension (shown in the pic) in front of what may well be the standard 243X phase plug, which apparently allows this driver to work satisfactorily with PT-F95HF. The 13 kHz notch is still there, but substantially mitigated; I can see it on unsmoothed plots.
Interestingly, the new PT-H1010 waveguide has an additional straight throat section before the flare; it's as if they have abandoned the "no throat" concept in lieu of "fixing" the phase plug. Note that the original AM6200 series is now obsolete.
I have not opened up 2432H to view the diaphragm. The titanium one might benefit from a dusting of Aquaplas; I also ran 2452H-SL in these.... ;)
Zilch
09-04-2010, 03:46 PM
WARNING: "EW" WORD! :D
http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?p=1661489#post1661489
http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?p=1667893#post1667893
Driver data files (FRD & ZMA) in the text if anyone wants to play.
[2452H-SL makes a cameo appearance.... ;) ]
Eaulive
09-06-2010, 08:01 AM
I'm very familiar with the SRX715 wich uses the same components but a 2431 instead of a 2432.
Also the horn is 75 x 50 instead of 90 x 50.
Those things are loud, but I think you can't call it a clone since your horn is not rotatable, it looks more like an SRX712M to me ;)
Do you know the major differences between the 2431 and the 2432? I tried to find data but found nothing substantial.
Zilch
09-06-2010, 04:14 PM
Titanium vs. aluminum diaphragm, and a throat extension that allows it to work with PT-F95.
2452H-SL would make it a passive clone of VP7212:
http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/support/getfile.aspx?doctype=3&docid=780
Shown in the build thread, that works very nicely, indeed.... :)
Eaulive
09-06-2010, 04:54 PM
Titanium vs. aluminum diaphragm, and a throat extension that allows it to work with PT-F95.
2452H-SL would make it a passive clone of VP7212:
http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/support/getfile.aspx?doctype=3&docid=780
Shown in the build thread, that works very nicely, indeed.... :)
2431 Titanium and 2432 aluminium?
I know the 2431 is ferrofluid cooled and neodymium magnet, what about the 2432?
And the 1000$ question, which one is best? :D
Zilch
09-06-2010, 07:06 PM
2432 is titanium.
Best? 2452H-SL.
[Gonna try this again, tho: http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Theatre%20Series/4722N-HF.pdf ;)]
Eaulive
09-07-2010, 07:44 AM
2432 is titanium.
Best? 2452H-SL.
[Gonna try this again, tho: http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Theatre%20Series/4722N-HF.pdf ;)]
I haven't see that crossover frequency for a compression driver in a long time!
On the other hand I haven't see a horn so big in a long time either, I don't visit the JBL cinema stuff very often :)
Zilch
09-07-2010, 09:31 PM
They only use 2432H down to 1.2 kHz on that waveguide in the 3-way versions in combination with the midrange waveguide.... :yes:
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