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hatrack71
03-02-2010, 07:54 AM
I have a chance to acquire the mini Valencia looking Madrid cabinets (empty) with the lattice grills. My question: I have a set of N500 crossovers and 511b/802 drivers. Would a 416 woofer work well in these cabinets as a bass bin crossed at 500Hz. There is a small square cut out above the 15" woofer cut out in the cab- so it wouldn't be a sealed enclosure. These would look like mini A-5s and would be very much eye candy. But would they be ear candy? Inside dimensions of the cab is 18 3/4" x 20 1/4" x 15 1/2". Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance

hatrack71
03-02-2010, 09:32 AM
Nobody has ever tried to make a mini A5 out of these cabs?

hatrack71
03-02-2010, 05:37 PM
Here are some pics of what I am dealing with. I've tried using this forum for responses but hardly ever get replies. I guess I'll try one more time.

hatrack71
03-02-2010, 07:05 PM
Internal volume is 3.4058 cubic feet or 5885.2 cubic inches or 96.44 liters. What are the acceptable volume box parameters( range) for a 416 woofer?

Earl K
03-03-2010, 03:59 AM
- Altecs' 416 Woofers work best in enclosures that are 7.5 to 10 cu ft .

- Download WinIsd Pro (http://www.linearteam.dk/default.aspx?pageid=winisdpro) ( free "tuning" software for predicting box/speaker alignments ) .
- Get the online 416-8(B or C) TS parameters ( using google ) , enter those parameters into the program & tune away ( Try 9 cu ft tuned to 30 hz ).

- Your Madrids are nice looking speakers . I suggest you put some le14a ( JBL ) woofers into them ( obtained used from eBay & refoamed by the reconer of your choice ) . The 811b horn might fit above that woofer in the cabinet .
- The le14a works very nicely in 2.5 to 3.5 cu ft enclosures tuned to 31 hz .

<> cheers

Dingusboy
03-03-2010, 05:30 AM
The JBL 2226 would be another candidate for these boxes. they do very well in a ported box of this size.

I had 2226's in a similar box and it was great with a good horn above it.

The 2226 can handle a high crossover point (Wayne uses 1600 on his 4pi design) so intergrating with a 1" compression driver should work well.

They are beautiful cabinets.

Sam Cogley
03-03-2010, 07:00 AM
That rectangle looks like it was made for a 3000 series tweeter.

MartinV56
03-11-2010, 10:01 PM
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6214/page06a.jpgThe altec madrid 872A system use the 420y woofer

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/c01712.jpg


The tweeter is the 30685 CTS tweeter. Good woofer great midrange, the bass is mediocre about 50 Hz in the cab

JoMoCo
03-12-2010, 09:39 AM
They would be great candidates for econo waves.....:eek:

Seal them up, use a JBL 2225, 2226, 2227 or other driver of choice and the smaller 6"x6" PTB99HF-1 wave guide (364914-001) in the existing port hole......:hmm:

It is a long read but pregnant with good info including crossover build info......:drive:

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=150939&highlight=364914%2A

Enjoy your music.....:slink:

hatrack71
03-12-2010, 10:57 PM
I didn't even think about JBL woofers. I do have a spare pair of 2420s mounted on H91s with LX16 crossovers. How well would that work with 2225s or 2226s in those cabs?