PDA

View Full Version : Tell me about my SVA1500's.



kenratboy
12-28-2009, 10:30 AM
I bought some at a pawn shop for next to nothing, and have been using them with my Primare setup while I shop for some bigger towers.

They sound pretty good (not too thrilled with the mids, they seem a little restrained), but great bass for a bookshelf, and the highs are nice.

How do these speakers rate? Are they considered decent, or are they good?

Thanks!

Titanium Dome
12-28-2009, 11:37 AM
They're the smallest of the SVA Series, and they are the only surviving member as HT Series THX systems, albeit with different drivers in the horns, Ti instead of soft domes.

In the original iteration, it shakes out like this, IMO, using a 1500 as the baseline:

SVA 1500 scores 1.
SVA 1600 scores 2.
SVA 1800 scores 5.
SVA 2100 scores 8.

Again, IMO, an SVA with two 12" drivers and the 2100's 1.5" soft dome tweeter might have hit 10 on this relative scale.

They're bulky, boxy, and somewhat elementary in design, but the 1800 and 2100 varieties have been in my collection a number of years now.

kenratboy
12-28-2009, 11:40 AM
Is that bass output you are rating them for? How do they stack up sound quality wise? I assume you like them as you own them.

Titanium Dome
12-29-2009, 04:25 PM
That's over all sound quality on a relative scale, with the reference point being the SVA 1500 at "1" as the baseline.

Using the same relative scale for other JBLs I own or owned:

SAT10 scores 0.25
Creature scores 0.3
SVA 1500 scores 1
SVA 1600 scores 2
LX300 scores 2
L100 scores 4
L3 scores 4
S26 scores 4
L60T scores 5
E50 scores 5
SVA 1800 scores 5
EON10 scores 6
XPL160 scores 7
SVA 2100 scores 8
EON15 scores 8
L5 scores 9
240Ti scores 10
XPL200 scores 11
4430 scores 11
L7 scores 12
Synthesis® S3M scores 12
L250 scores 14
S/2600 scores 16
PS1400/PT800 scores 17
Synthesis® SAM1HF/SAM2LF scores 20

Of course it's all IMO. :applaud:

Eaulive
12-30-2009, 07:42 AM
EON15 scores 8


They do sound good. If only they weren't so FUGLY! :barf:

Titanium Dome
12-30-2009, 02:32 PM
They do sound good. If only they weren't so FUGLY! :barf:

That's why I keep mine IN A BAG!:biting:

SEAWOLF97
12-30-2009, 06:34 PM
Using the same relative scale for other JBLs I own or owned:

L5 scores 9
L7 scores 12
Synthesis® SAM1HF/SAM2LF scores 20



sooooo, if you set up a L7+ L5 system ..they wud best the Synthesis® SAM1HF/SAM2LF ??? (9+12=21 , 21>20)

the L7-L5 system takes only 4 speakers , is a lot cheaper and is "1" better :bouncy:



















do ya know if I'm joking or not , Widg ?

Titanium Dome
12-30-2009, 08:58 PM
Ha ha, you funny man! :p (click at your own risk) http://eppsnet.com/images/asian-guys.jpg

Trust me, if you put ten L5s in the room, it would still be a nine, and if you put L5s and L7s together against the SAMs it would be 10.5 to 20, not 21 to 20.

BMWCCA
12-30-2009, 11:49 PM
All your bass are belong to us !! All our black ash are belong to you now, too!

I like Wolf's logic, since I have two L7 pairs which gives me a score of 24...using his Oregonian math. :applaud:

hjames
12-31-2009, 04:09 AM
Ha ha, you funny man! :p
(click at your own risk) http://eppsnet.com/images/asian-guys.jpg

Your vision has moved on, grasshopper -
perhaps other koans may be found?

URL grants web wisdom, ancient humour from before, nothing more ...


"You step in the stream, But the water has moved on. The file is not here"

SEAWOLF97
12-31-2009, 08:10 AM
Trust me, if you put ten L5s in the room, it would still be a nine, and if you put L5s and L7s together against the SAMs it would be 10.5 to 20, not 21 to 20.

fine example of CalMath ...and look at what it has done for their state budget


All our black ash are belong to you now, too!


not for too long, hopefully . adding value right now so next owner can appreciate more....mebbe I'll paint them fauxwood. :bouncy: (that will make them FAUXY)



I like Wolf's logic, ...using his Oregonian math. :applaud:

OryMath is better than CalMath ...our state is in a smaller money hole.

Even if the non-JBL's only count for "1" ...I can break a hunnert.

Titanium Dome
12-31-2009, 08:42 AM
By that type of additive math, 44 Bose cubes would be better. :spchless: :bs:

Rather than using quantitative analysis, try qualitative.

It's not 9+12=21.

It's 9+12÷2=10.5

OTOH, I could be wrong. As has been pointed out, I do live in CA. It could be that the more speakers one throws together, the better they sound. You could bring your L7 and L5 pairs down, and I'll let you set them up next to the SAMs and we'll give a listen.

Titanium Dome
12-31-2009, 08:48 AM
Your vision has moved on, grasshopper -
perhaps other koans may be found?

URL grants web wisdom, ancient humour from before, nothing more ...


"You step in the stream, But the water has moved on. The file is not here"

Weird, it works for me every time. Well, I don't want to get scolded by a moralizing moderator, so I can't post it here.

One more try:

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2008/04/japanese%2520man.jpg

hjames
12-31-2009, 08:48 AM
Its like stacking Advents or L100s, right?
Just stack those L7s for better zoundz!


By that type of additive math, 44 Bose cubes would be better. :spchless: :bs:

Rather than using quantitative analysis, try qualitative.

It's not 9+12=21.

It's 9+12÷2=10.5

OTOH, I could be wrong. As has been pointed out, I do live in CA. It could be that the more speakers one throws together, the better they sound. You could bring your L7 and L5 pairs down, and I'll let you set them up next to the SAMs and we'll give a listen.

SEAWOLF97
12-31-2009, 08:51 AM
It's not 9+12=21.

It's 9+12÷2=10.5.


soooo, L7's + L5's are WORSE than L7's alone ?


44 Bose cubes would be better

hints of things to come ?

Titanium Dome
12-31-2009, 08:57 AM
soooo, L7's + L5's are WORSE than L7's alone ?

As stereo pairs, yes.

Now if you're talking four channels, then L7 + L5 pairs are BETTER than L7s in a single pair. Sadly for this comparison, I'd have to add two speakers to the SAMs for the four channel comparison. If I pick a couple of S4Ai surrounds, then the L Series gear falls even further behind. I'd rate the S4Ai 18 in this relative scale.

In any event, this is getting silly, and it's pulling the thread away from the OP. My apologies, kenratboy. (Who'd have thought I'd ever be apologizing to a ratboy? Ah the Internet.)

BMWCCA
12-31-2009, 12:08 PM
....mebbe I'll paint them fauxwood. :bouncy: (that will make them FAUXY)

Been done already. Though it hurts my eyes, I'll link to it here:

http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=35169&d=1226031141

SEAWOLF97
12-31-2009, 12:22 PM
Though it hurts my eyes

http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=35169&d=1226031141

far out dude ! whars me purble paint ?

actually saw a redo that looked good....mahog veneer over the black ash and then the grills were dyed black

kenratboy
12-31-2009, 03:42 PM
As stereo pairs, yes.

Now if you're talking four channels, then L7 + L5 pairs are BETTER than L7s in a single pair. Sadly for this comparison, I'd have to add two speakers to the SAMs for the four channel comparison. If I pick a couple of S4Ai surrounds, then the L Series gear falls even further behind. I'd rate the S4Ai 18 in this relative scale.

In any event, this is getting silly, and it's pulling the thread away from the OP. My apologies, kenratboy. (Who'd have thought I'd ever be apologizing to a ratboy? Ah the Internet.)

Hey, you better be nice to be - otherwise I will use my orange teeth to chew through all your low-voltage cables (I'm a smart rat, so I know which ones to avoid!)

It is OK, I have been know to derail a few number of threads - and I have gotten the impression my speakers are 'meh', which is OK.

Titanium Dome
01-01-2010, 04:45 AM
Hey, you better be nice to be - otherwise I will use my orange teeth to chew through all your low-voltage cables (I'm a smart rat, so I know which ones to avoid!)

It is OK, I have been know to derail a few number of threads - and I have gotten the impression my speakers are 'meh', which is OK.

It's important to keep in mind it's all relative. Change the reference and the scale shifts. If the baseline becomes SAT10 = 1 then the SVA 1500 becomes a 4 or even a 5. Plus, the current HT version is THX certified, so it's not like the design has no merit. It does.

One of the reasons I have so many different JBLs is I like them all. They're all different, and I enjoy listening to each. In the end, numbers and ranking are highly subjective and on any given day I simply listen to what I want. If I enjoy it, then I'm not even thinking about where it sits in the pecking order.

Happy New Year!

Slare
01-07-2010, 12:19 PM
I was going to chime in and say something similar... T's comparison rankings are putting the 1500's against some heady company.

Now, if you evaluate the 1500's on their own merit against similar sized JBL compact monitors, they do pretty well, and you may well prefer their sound over that of a more conventional 6.5" + 1" 2-way that JBL has made so many of.

Not to mention they are certainly better than the current or more recent inexpensive HLS or Venue type offerings and still better than 90% of the junk pawned off on consumers today. For their configuration and size, they are very solid, and the tweeter is capable of very high output. They will work well with a sub.

Lots of people prefer the sound of the SVA series over the L20/60/80/100 towers. And if you can install them in a manner where the front is the main visible showing, they still look pretty nice.

Finally, if they are in nice shape, they do have rather good value due to larger SVA model owners looking for surrounds / centers.