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audiorep2
03-27-2009, 08:18 AM
After using Genelec 1032A s for a couple of years, then a JBL LSR system, I'm going home.
Broke out the old 4312s , Crown PS200, Soundcraftsman 20-12A
and a Soundcraft 200B.
I'm in heaven !
No more digitally squashed audio.
In your face detail again !

Mr. Widget
03-27-2009, 09:16 AM
I'm in heaven !
No more digitally squashed audio.:bouncy:

I know what you mean. Very cool.


Widget

BMWCCA
03-27-2009, 10:48 PM
Did you draw yourself a big smiley face with the old Soundcraftsmen? :D

audiorep2
03-28-2009, 04:58 AM
The bottom slider on the Soundcraftsman 20-40 hz, YA BABY !!

boputnam
03-28-2009, 01:45 PM
I know what you mean, too. The 43xx series is pretty special.


Broke out the old 4312s...Not so privately ;) , the only "swap" I personally endorse is to try the 128H in that very cabinet.

Here is my model from WinISD - dated June 2003 :o: - in the 4312 cabinet.

Green = 123A (stock)
Yellow = 128H

The 123 has that pronounced "hump" popular in the '70's. I found the 128H more pleasing (neutral) and it seemed to offer better "bass extension" - but that impression could be solely psychoacoustic as it sure is not very obvious in the model.

I'm sure Grumpy could run a model, or Widget (he never has returned my BassBox Pro... :scold: ).

Anyway, since you're revisiting the past, this might be an interesting - and hella easy - thing to trial.

grumpy
03-28-2009, 02:44 PM
Looks like your description matches your plot pretty well. There's an extra
2dB at 40Hz and that freq range would be more audible against a less
boosted upper-bass. :) Isn't it all psychoacoustic? ;)

Mr. Widget
03-29-2009, 12:02 AM
...or Widget (he never has returned my BassBox Pro... :scold: ).Oops... sorry man. I eventually did find my copy. Yours was sitting on top of the to-do pile... I guess it got buried. :o:

I guess I am due to visit the coast and have a glass of red and share in some quality 4345 time. :)


Looks like your description matches your plot pretty well. There's an extra
2dB at 40Hz and that freq range would be more audible against a less
boosted upper-bass. :) Isn't it all psychoacoustic? ;)I'd tend to agree... a fairly wide 2 dB bump in this region will be pretty well noticeable with the right material if there aren't any room modes in the area to mask it.


Widget