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jan_slagman
12-23-2008, 11:50 AM
Hi JBL friends,

I just scored a pair of JBL Control 10 loudspeakers. Unfortunately a minimum of information can be found on this heritage site. Is there anyone in here who has any experience with these Control loudspeakers ?
Does anyone know the specifications of the used loudspeakercomponents ? (119HS; 305HS; 037Ti).

With kind regards and
a Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year to all of you,

Jan Slagman
The Netherlands.

bigyank
12-23-2008, 12:34 PM
Start here:

http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Control%20Series/Control%2010LR.pdf

A lot of this speaker is NLA (no longer available) but I have seen recone kits on that auction site every once and a while.

I have the Control 5's which I really like and use the woofer the 119HS in a pair of Frankenspeakers I built.

Yank

JBL 4645
12-23-2008, 12:46 PM
You suck yes you really suck! :D I wouldn’t mind at least 6 of those for the home cinema five for the fronts and one for a back-up or other maybe “the voice of god”.

How much did you pay for them, they where discontinued years ago why, why, why I don’t never will understand why the Control 5 and 1 is still in production. You suck. :D

What’s the condition of the bass mid driver 12” is no its a 10” driver isn’t ribbon cloth edge surround if memory is right? The mid range is 5” is it not and the tweeter the same as the Control 5. What is the condition of the JBL control 10?

Take some pictures of it yes pictures I like to see it even thou I’ve seen two in the flesh before at guys home many years ago (1990).

:happyh::tree::presents:

Serum
12-23-2008, 01:45 PM
They went for 95 euro on our local market place! :)

Concrats Jan!

bigyank
12-23-2008, 02:02 PM
You suck yes you really suck! :D I wouldn’t mind at least 6 of those for the home cinema five for the fronts and one for a back-up or other maybe “the voice of god”.

How much did you pay for them, they where discontinued years ago why, why, why I don’t never will understand why the Control 5 and 1 is still in production. You suck. :D

What’s the condition of the bass mid driver 12” is no its a 10” driver isn’t ribbon cloth edge surround if memory is right? The mid range is 5” is it not and the tweeter the same as the Control 5. What is the condition of the JBL control 10?

Take some pictures of it yes pictures I like to see it even thou I’ve seen two in the flesh before at guys home many years ago (1990).

:happyh::tree::presents:

12" Bass driver. I documented in a previous thread that the TS parameters make this driver close to the 123A. Happy holidays to all as well!

Yank

jan_slagman
12-23-2008, 04:04 PM
They went for 95 euro on our local market place! :)

Concrats Jan!

Hello Serum,

You're quiete right !!!!! I sniped them last night. They are in a mint condition.

Kind regards,

Jan Slagman
The Netherlands

jan_slagman
12-23-2008, 04:18 PM
You suck yes you really suck! :D I wouldn’t mind at least 6 of those for the home cinema five for the fronts and one for a back-up or other maybe “the voice of god”.

How much did you pay for them, they where discontinued years ago why, why, why I don’t never will understand why the Control 5 and 1 is still in production. You suck. :D

What’s the condition of the bass mid driver 12” is no its a 10” driver isn’t ribbon cloth edge surround if memory is right? The mid range is 5” is it not and the tweeter the same as the Control 5. What is the condition of the JBL control 10?

Take some pictures of it yes pictures I like to see it even thou I’ve seen two in the flesh before at guys home many years ago (1990).

:happyh::tree::presents:

Hi JBL 4645,

You can find nice pictures on:

http://www.zenn.com.sg/JBL_Control_10_spkrs.JPG

http://www.jblpro.com/pub/obsolete/Control_10.pdf

http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Control%20Series/Control%2010LR.pdf

My JBL Control 10's are in a nearly mint condition and they have been used in a youthclub. All components are in good working order and yes these speakers really rock. They are quiete different from my JBL4312A Control Monitors.

With kind regards,

Jan Slagman
The Netherlands.

JBL 4645
12-23-2008, 04:44 PM
12" Bass driver. I documented in a previous thread that the TS parameters make this driver close to the 123A. Happy holidays to all as well!


Yank

Oh, right I guess the model number threw me off, Control 10. So is it the same bass mid range driver as used in the JBL control 12SR I’m guessing it is.

jan

I’ve seen those pictures before still a nice view but I’ve seen them before I like all-around pictures underneath behind above even inside.

Nice that their in good Nick. Where they mounted on brackets in the youth club? and if so did you get the brackets.

Since the JBL control 1 and 5 are still being produced I wonder just how many JBL control 10 and 12SR that where produced before production stopped on that model.

JBL bring back the JBL Control 10 and 12SR please, pretty please with sugar on top.:)

:happyh::tree::presents:

Figge
12-24-2008, 02:05 AM
So how does this thing sound?

jonfu@ymail.com
12-24-2008, 02:58 AM
How much did you pay for them, they where discontinued years ago why, why, why I don’t never will understand why the Control 5 and 1 is still in production.

That's an interesting observation. I always thought these were replaced by JBL's portable line.

http://www.jblpro.com/products/portable/index.html

They could of also been replaced by the JBL Control 28, 29, and 30, but I haven't seen them in many permanent installations.

jan_slagman
12-24-2008, 03:30 AM
So how does this thing sound?

From what i hear in my "too small" room i must say they sound pretty impressive. At short notice we will test them on the most powerful Bryston poweramplifier in an almost perfect acoustic environ.

Kind regards,

Jan Slagman
The Netherlands

JBL 4645
12-24-2008, 08:53 AM
That's an interesting observation. I always thought these were replaced by JBL's portable line.

http://www.jblpro.com/products/portable/index.html

They could of also been replaced by the JBL Control 28, 29, and 30, but I haven't seen them in many permanent installations.

Hey Jon afternoon

Well its kinder bothered me for years I mean they look so cool against the control 5 I like that funky carrying handle on top of the control 10 and 12SR. So you have your theory I wonder what the real truth is because I’d very much like to have a few for the LCR fronts with magnetic shielding I think only control 10 I believe the control 12SR isn’t magnetically shielded.

I have an old broacher somewhere of the Control 10, I’ll fish around for it.

Has much as I wouldn’t mind JBL 4675-A in the room but lets face I wouldn’t have enough room to swing a car around. The JBL control offers the user flexible control in placement control in sound they look nice and controlled, that sounded corny LOL.

Yes I like to have control in tight spaces.

I wonder how JBL came up with that name Control® Series?



:happyh::tree::presents:

JBL 4645
12-24-2008, 10:02 AM
I’ve had a good turn out in store cupboard where I was looking of thin (plastic blue folder) that had some rare, well in my opinion it is rare. This is where I would have found A4 size broachers but could find the folder, damn I haven’t the first clue as to where it is of if it was misplaced in moving over the past few years, I know it must be somewhere its not that thick its only a fin folder.

I did however turn this up amongst what my dad would call “junk” no pun intended he just hasn’t sat down to listen to JBL. LOL

So I took a few pictures of all here is small sample from this little hand size JBL broacher. Hmm, printed (1992) so I guess the 10 and 12SR was discontinued around early 1990’s to mid 1990’s?

JBL 4645
12-24-2008, 10:13 AM
Weird while reading though the specifications for control 5 and 5 plus the weight of the control 5 is 11kg where the weight of the control 5 plus is only 10.8kg weird is there a difference in the bass mid driver I know its an 8” bass mid. Control 10 is only 15.5kg Control 12SR 21kg.

Control Micro Control 10 Control 12SR what does (ABS) mean I know its Anti something Structure?

Frequency response is nice for Control 10 35Hz to 27Khz over the Control 12SR which is only 45Hz same as Control 5 plus to 17Khz where Control 5 plus is 20Khz weird?

I used to own a JBL Control SB-5 (TCB) should never had sold it what a dick.:banghead:

I like these choice of headings.
“A Heritage of Excellence”
“The Control 1 Family”
“Even Greater Control”
“Control from Top to Bottom”

In the Control Series, JBL has combined its vast body of loudspeaker knowledge – art, science and wisdom – with solid practicality. The results is a great-sounding, easy-to-use group of products with a wide range of applications.

jan_slagman
12-24-2008, 10:41 AM
HI JBL 4645,

That's very interesting information you have. I never heard so many details about those speakers. I would be very pleased if you could sent me a copy of the JBL Control 10 information from that brochure. Maybe you can scan that page and send it to me.

With kind regards,

Jan Slagman
The Netherlands.

Titanium Dome
12-24-2008, 12:16 PM
I believe Zilch has a pair of these hanging around somewhere, too.

JBL 4645
12-25-2008, 01:01 AM
HI JBL 4645,

That's very interesting information you have. I never heard so many details about those speakers. I would be very pleased if you could sent me a copy of the JBL Control 10 information from that brochure. Maybe you can scan that page and send it to me.

With kind regards,

Jan Slagman
The Netherlands.

The crappy camera is the only thing I have. I did have scanner that was given to me, expect it didn’t have the CD-Rom to run the program, seems like my friend was trying to dump on me. LOL If you look around there are pdf files available as for the A4 broachers there pretty rare.


I believe Zilch has a pair of these hanging around somewhere, too.

Does he want to sale them, just kidding. :D

jan_slagman
12-25-2008, 06:54 AM
Hi JBL 4645,

I noticed your living not that far from Bognor. I once visited that hidihidiho park called Butlin's World. They held a Sixties weekend and i met some 50 British bands from the early Sixties. I know a lot of these lads from the legendary Merseybeat era.

Kind regards,

Jan Slagman
The Netherlands.

JBL 4645
12-26-2008, 05:11 AM
Hi JBL 4645,

I noticed your living not that far from Bognor. I once visited that hidihidiho park called Butlin's World. They held a Sixties weekend and i met some 50 British bands from the early Sixties. I know a lot of these lads from the legendary Merseybeat era.

Kind regards,

Jan Slagman
The Netherlands.

If you’re talking about Liverpool I’m around 100 miles away from there, south of the UK.

jan_slagman
12-27-2008, 11:58 AM
If you’re talking about Liverpool I’m around 100 miles away from there, south of the UK.

Hi JBL4645,

Bognor Regis is some 70 miles from your place.

Kind regards,

Jan Slagman
The Netherlands

demon
12-27-2008, 01:33 PM
yes everone knows about it, but here:
http://www.jblpro.com/products/vintage/index.html
one can scroll down and in the last chapter lies all the info a control-freak will ever need.


cheers,
mikey

jan_slagman
12-31-2008, 04:36 AM
Hi,

Can anyone tell me how to remove the black iron grill of a JBL Control 10, without causing any damage to the loudspeaker ? It looks if they glued the grill to the front, but i am not quiet sure of this.
I would be very pleased if you could help me in this matter.

Kind regards,

Jan Slagman
The Netherlands

macaroonie
12-31-2008, 05:28 AM
If it is anything like the smaller controls the grille is kept in place with non setting mastic ( goo ). If you use a watchmakers screwdriver into one of the holes in the grill at the edge and apply gentle but continuous pressure upwards you will find the grille will start to lift. Begin in one corner and then move on to the next , working your way around. Once it is started it is pretty easy.

Happy New Year ----- Mac

jan_slagman
12-31-2008, 05:40 AM
If it is anything like the smaller controls the grille is kept in place with non setting mastic ( goo ). If you use a watchmakers screwdriver into one of the holes in the grill at the edge and apply gentle but continuous pressure upwards you will find the grille will start to lift. Begin in one corner and then move on to the next , working your way around. Once it is started it is pretty easy.

Happy New Year ----- Mac

Thanks a lot Macaroonie,

That's just what i wanted to know.

Kind regards and a very Happy New Year to you,

Jan Slagman
The Netherlands

clubman
12-31-2008, 02:14 PM
I have a dozen of the control 12SR's laying around. I use a pair of them for booth monitors. They can really take a beating.

chad1965
12-19-2012, 09:47 AM
Hi, I found your posting about the Control 10's. I just recently bought a pair off eBay for a very good price. I see you had a pair, and I was trying to find some information about them. There is not much on the web about them. Do you still have yours? Would appreciate any info you might have on them. They must not have made them for very long. I was wondering if they were only sold in military installations.
Appreciate any opinion or information you have.
Thank you!
Chad

MikeBrewster77
12-19-2012, 05:31 PM
Here are some handy links:

http://www.jblpro.com/pub/obsolete/Control_10.pdf
http://www.fullcompass.com/common/files/17282-Control 10LR.pdf

They're medium output SR units, not sold only to the military or exclusively on bases, but rather through JBL Professional. They're highly durable and perform quite admirably in their intended application.

KTamaki
11-10-2016, 06:39 AM
Hi,

I just have an issue with my Control 10 after a flooding in home. Fortunately just one 12" woofer is damaged and I am looking for a replacement driver. Now a days there is no production of the 119HS-1 nor original recon kits from JBL. Does anyone have the full technical specifications of the 119HS-1 driver? The information available in the Technical Manual and and the Product Description in JBL site is limited and not detailed to the 119HS-1. I went to the current JBL catalogue and find out the Selenium PRO 12WS600, which seems to be similar in kind.

Your help will be appreciated. :)


Thanks,

bigyank
11-10-2016, 07:48 AM
Hi,

I just have an issue with my Control 10 after a flooding in home. Fortunately just one 12" woofer is damaged and I am looking for a replacement driver. Now a days there is no production of the 119HS-1 nor original recon kits from JBL. Does anyone have the full technical specifications of the 119HS-1 driver? The information available in the Technical Manual and and the Product Description in JBL site is limited and not detailed to the 119HS-1. I went to the current JBL catalogue and find out the Selenium PRO 12WS600, which seems to be similar in kind.

Your help will be appreciated. :)


Thanks,

No affiliation with the seller but check out:

http://jamminjersey.com/detail/006423/jbl-119hs-1-12-woofers

He has 3 available but be careful with ordering from him. From what I have read on this forum and even places like yelp that this place has hot and cold results:

https://www.yelp.com/biz/jamminjersey-music-and-pro-audio-northridge

Good luck!

KTamaki
11-10-2016, 07:49 AM
Hello, I saw your post and I wonder if you can post a new clear image on the brochure of the Control 10?

Thanks,


I’ve had a good turn out in store cupboard where I was looking of thin (plastic blue folder) that had some rare, well in my opinion it is rare. This is where I would have found A4 size broachers but could find the folder, damn I haven’t the first clue as to where it is of if it was misplaced in moving over the past few years, I know it must be somewhere its not that thick its only a fin folder.

I did however turn this up amongst what my dad would call “junk” no pun intended he just hasn’t sat down to listen to JBL. LOL

So I took a few pictures of all here is small sample from this little hand size JBL broacher. Hmm, printed (1992) so I guess the 10 and 12SR was discontinued around early 1990’s to mid 1990’s?

KTamaki
11-15-2016, 08:07 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I will check availability. What do you think to replace them wirh the JBL selenium 12WS600 deiver?


No affiliation with the seller but check out:

http://jamminjersey.com/detail/006423/jbl-119hs-1-12-woofers

He has 3 available but be careful with ordering from him. From what I have read on this forum and even places like yelp that this place has hot and cold results:

https://www.yelp.com/biz/jamminjersey-music-and-pro-audio-northridge

Good luck!

whisper10141970
08-23-2017, 04:50 PM
Just wanted to share my JBL Control 10 find. So amazing! I thought the L-5's were wonderful but now I'm in another sort of heaven. Peace 77930

bigyank
08-23-2017, 05:30 PM
Just wanted to share my JBL Control 10 find. So amazing! I thought the L-5's were wonderful but now I'm in another sort of heaven. Peace 77930

Very nice.