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Jakob
04-18-2004, 06:13 AM
Hi!
I know that there are differencies in the network and finish. But what about the drivers? Did the last set of 250 ti LE's for example use the 104H or maybe the 104H-3?

And is there such a big difference in sound that You should go for the 250 ti LE's only, since the price is about the same?

B. R:

Jakob

dieterj
04-18-2004, 11:22 AM
Hello Jacob,

Inside my 250ti LE's are 104H's installed.
The Highs're different to normal 250, for me the Sound is a little bit smoother then normal 035ti Transducer.
The Crossover Network in my LE's don't have Switcher for Mid/High.

Dieter:)

Robh3606
04-18-2004, 02:49 PM
Hello Dieter

Is that a close-up on the L250TI tweeter?? Thats an 050 Gold. I use them in my XPL's and was wondering where else JBL used them besides the Century Gold. Very smooth tweeter.

Rob:)

JuniorJBL
04-18-2004, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Robh3606


Thats an 050 Gold. Very smooth tweeter.

Rob:)

Where do you find one (well 2) of these tweeters?
Shane:confused:

Jakob
04-19-2004, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by dieterj
Hello Jacob,

Inside my 250ti LE's are 104H's installed.
The Highs're different to normal 250, for me the Sound is a little bit smoother then normal 035ti Transducer.
The Crossover Network in my LE's don't have Switcher for Mid/High.

Dieter:)



Ok, so they use the same midrange. But in the original 250 ti's I thought there were 044ti tweeters, and if Your LE-speakers uses the 050, then there is a difference. Or is Your version perhaps a LE Jubilee? Thanks for the info about the switches!

B.R: Jakob

JuniorJBL
04-19-2004, 06:35 AM
JBL used the 035 Tia in the last 250TIBQ. They still used the 104-h in that speaker as well. This info is for the US version as I do not know about any of the others. The crossovers in the 250TIBQ has switches for HF and UHF. It does not have attenuation on the mid-bass(8") like the L250.
Shane:D

dieterj
04-19-2004, 06:49 AM
Hi Jakob,

You're right, the first Version of 250ti's had the 044ti Tweeters.
Sorry, I've the last Jubilee Version, I thinked you mean this.
The Jubilee is without switches on Crossover.

This first LE Serie from 1990 had the 035ti Tweeters, but was also switchable
in Frequenz. You can look in Jbl/Library/Specs about this Serie.

Regards
Dieter:)

Robh3606
04-19-2004, 07:24 AM
Hello Shane

Found them on E-Bay. There were 8 up for sale I got 3 the other bidder got 5. They are real nice with cast metal mounting plates and large magnets. Had to have the baffle plates made for them but that was a snap. Seems the 050 was an offshore tweeter. I don't think any of the domestic product use them. If you look in the German brochure they where in the European TI line too.

Rob:)

dieterj
04-19-2004, 07:29 AM
Hello Rob

That's my 250ti/jubilee.
I think, they're nearly 5 years old now.
Yes, very smooth Highs.

Was this Serie not available in the US?

:confused:
Dieter

dieterj
04-19-2004, 07:39 AM
Here's the Photo now

JuniorJBL
04-19-2004, 08:08 AM
Those are pretty!!

They are probably very hard to find. I think I will try and find one of the LSR Ti's. They sound VERY good as well.
Shane:D

Giskard
If you see this... Do you know the model # of the LSR Ti?
Shane

JuniorJBL
04-19-2004, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by dieterj
Here's the Photo now

Those are VERY NICE!!
Shane:D

4313B
04-19-2004, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by JuniorJBL
Giskard
If you see this... Do you know the model # of the LSR Ti?
Shane http://www.jblproservice.com/navigation/LSR%20Series.html

http://www.jblproservice.com/navigation/LSR6300%20Series.html

The 050 Gold shows as out of stock (and is probably NLA) in the U.S.

JuniorJBL
04-19-2004, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by Giskard


The 050 Gold shows as out of stock (and is probably NLA) in the U.S.

I kinda figured that it was NLA because of it being sort-of an obscure piece. Also anything that you have to get from Harman Int. verses JBL Pro is like getting a jackass to move when he does not want to!:banghead:

Now getting parts from JBL Pro on the other hand is easy.:thmbsup:
Thanks Shane

4313B
04-19-2004, 09:23 AM
I do hear where you are coming from but...

I was going to say "No Comment", then I remembered how damn fast Harman moved in getting Don a complete set of S9800 drivers along with an extra pair of 1500AL's for his little project at no cost and when they were all marked as "out of stock"... I also can't count the times Harman has come through for me when Pro couldn't. It all evens out over the years...

JuniorJBL
04-19-2004, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Giskard
It all evens out over the years...

This my friend I am sure is Very True!!:p
Shane

dieterj
04-19-2004, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Giskard
The 050 Gold shows as out of stock (and is probably NLA) in the U.S. [/B]
Hello Giskard,
Was the 250 Jubilee not available in the U.S.
:confused:

4313B
04-19-2004, 12:09 PM
Sorry dieterj, I only know about the original 250Ti available from 1985 to 1991 and the 250Ti BQ from 1992 to 1993.

I think there are at least three other newer/different versions worldwide. I also think one of them used a charge-coupled network.

bbno4
04-29-2004, 04:05 AM
hello
I had a pair of 250 Ti BQ Ltd Edition since 1991 to 2003. The tweeters is 035Ti A1. cross-over is N559. It's can be bi-wire. +2db or flat for high frequency. and -1db or flat for mid frequency. It's good for all kind of music. The high frequency is very smooth and wild, bass is deep and clean. Highly recommend.

4313B
04-30-2004, 02:33 PM
L250 available from 1981 to 1983

4313B
04-30-2004, 02:34 PM
250Ti available from 1985 to 1991

4313B
04-30-2004, 02:35 PM
250Ti BQ available from 1992 to 1993

4313B
04-30-2004, 02:35 PM
I don't have anything on the other three 250Ti variants.

Jakob
05-05-2004, 03:54 AM
Thanks Giskard, You're the man!