Upgrading choices (longish)

[andywin]

It's been a while since I've posted to this forum as a combination of work and my new amplifiers has taken up my time but I'm seeking advice on which which of the options below will give me the best results.

I have recently bought a stripped down pair of 4502 cabinets complete with components in wonderful condition: 2440 2311 LX5 N700 O75 and non JBL bass drivers (found these via Lancing Product Marketplace incorrectly sold as 4325's and the only cost £180 / $350).
http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=20556

I now have a number of choices as to what to do:

1) Improve my L200's which have cabinets in absolutely mint condition with the 2440/2311's, a spare pair of 2225's which have 2235 cones, O75 or O77 and build a charge coupled 4333 type crossover but with a 500Hz bass mid xover point. I could then use the 2420's and horns together with a spare pair of 2215's to rebuild the 4502's into 3 way S7's. These would then match the 4505 cabinet I have. ( there is currently a French ebay auction where there is a pair of L200's modded to this spec). http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300213075816&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020

2) Drop the 2440/2311 straight into my 4333's and put the 2420/H93 into the 4502's, but I'm not shure if the long horn will fit. I do have one spare 2307 though so I may be able to get another and use short horns.

3) Rebuild the 4502's as original (S8 system), filling the dings on the cabinets, re-spraying in grey and using my spare 2215's. This route is the easiest but would still leave the L200's original but with all their inherent faults.

[Mr. Widget]

No specific advice... the success of changes are so subjective.

I would sell the LX5 and N7000. You can do much better with newer designs, especially the charge coupled variety.

I would not crossover the 2311 horn below 1200Hz, I have no personal experience working with this horn, but JBL recommends a 1200Hz crossover point, and they are typically optimistic about how far you can push a horn.


Sounds like you have several fun options to try.


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[subwoof]

The only good use for the 2311 is *above* a 10" low mid and you have none (yet). This will also require another set of cabinets that you don't have (yet)...:) That horn is NOT good to 500 under any use.

The S8 system is very lacking in the crossover region - I have a pair of beatup sovereigns that have that system and they are eclipsed by the modded L200 / L300 with the much longer horn.

You mention H93 with 2420?? something is a typo there.

If you want to "improve" the L200's, bump out the back ( I just did it to my pair ) and use the 2312 horn. It makes a sonic difference in the crossover region. Add the 4333 networks and you're good to go.

I agree - dump the LX5 and N7000 and use the proceeds for building CC networks.

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[Zilch]

Long horns will fit in 4502s last time we looked. You have to mount the driver with the horn installed, as I recall.

I would not be doing S7 or S8, rather, installing 2235H equivalents in the 4502s, turn them upside-down for experimentation, and try some newer drivers and horns, two-way.

My second pair of L200s are getting 2452H-SL/4381, and my 4505s I'm working on fitting H4338 or H9800 in, drivers yet to be determined.

[That's my "thing," tho.... ;) ]

[Chas]

Long horns will fit in 4502s last time we looked. You have to mount the driver with the horn installed, as I recall.


If they are dimensionally the same as the 4505, yes. It worked for me.

[subwoof]

Andywin - I sent a PM a few days ago about horns...:)

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