View Full Version : Yamaha P2200 v/s Perreaux 6200B for 4344's LF
jarrods
03-17-2004, 07:15 PM
Hi,
I am building some 4344's that will be run bi-amped. I already have an amp for the tops. Local secondhand dealers have both Yamaha P2200 and Perreaux 6200B for sale. Anyone have thoughts on what is best to drive the 2235H's?
http://www.perreaux.com/files/051-6200B.pdf
i spoke to the 'amp expert' guy at one store and he said if i want a super reliable amp that you take on the road definitely use the yammy, if you are looking for pure sound quality use the 6200. apparently they have very little circuity in them for speaker monitoring/protection, so the signal remains cleaner.
Also; you think neither amp is any good please let me know.
thanks,
Jarrod
GordonW
03-17-2004, 08:33 PM
Well, my take is that the Perreaux probably has quite a bit stouter power supply. For the specific application, I'd expect a little better "defined" bass from the 6200, for that reason.
I'd see nothing in particular, wrong with the idea of using a Perreaux for bass; they should be well-equipped and suitable for such!
OK... so, why do I now feel this feeling of deja vu, like I've been involved in this EXACT discussion before, and it's about to turn into a great big argument?? :eek:
Regards,
Gordon.
grumpy
03-17-2004, 08:37 PM
6200B looks a lot like a pro version of the
PMF2150B I used to have, and was quite
happy with...especially driving dynamic
speakers (such as your LF section). Worth
having the idle current set/checked if it's the
same or similar circuit design as the 2150B
(can run hot if set too high). No direct experience
with the Yamaha pro amp...
Past experience w/ Perreaux, service-wise, was
good...should be better for you (a bit closer).
Cheers,
-grumpy
PSS AUDIO
03-18-2004, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by jarrods
Hi,
I am building some 4344's that will be run bi-amped. I already have an amp for the tops. Local secondhand dealers have both Yamaha P2200 and Perreaux 6200B for sale. Anyone have thoughts on what is best to drive the 2235H's?
Hi Jarrod,
Not willing making any add for PSS, just ask NET in Sydney to lend you a PSS2400! It is perhaps a little too powerful (2x700W under 8 ohms) but this amplifier is very punchy and has an excellent bottom note.
Read selected words held by famous audio technicians in international magazines:
“The common mode rejection ratio here has a value that is only rarely seen, even on amps with good reputations.
The frequency response curves show perfect linearity, especially in the bass, where not even the slightest filtering can be detected. The cut-off frequency of the inputs is turned very low.”
Frequency Response at 10 Watts, - 1dB : 2 Hz - 100 000 Hz
Frequency Response at half power, 0 dB : 10 Hz - 25 000 Hz _
Frequency Response at full power, 0 dB : 15 Hz - 20 000 Hz _
SNR unweighted/weighted. : 105 dB/108 dB
Gain at 1 kHz - 8 ohms rated output. : 31dB
Input impedance bal./unbal. 20 kohms/20 kohms
Common mode rejection ratio 40Hz/ 1 kHz/ 10 kHz : 84 dB/84 dB/78 dB
Rise Time. :5 µs
Damping factor 8ohms. : > 250
Distortion 1000 Hz/8ohms. : 0,009%
IM distortion (SMPTE) 10 kHz/4ohms : 0,026%
Ian Mackenzie
03-18-2004, 02:01 AM
Either the above will do nicely,
Its a matter of taste, best no fans for domestic listening.
Knowing your top end amp stick with the mosfets and go for the 6000B, lots of control and able to dump pently of current if needed. WOW I am sure it will sound great....and so will the F' ing neighbours
Amps are a matter of taste and can be a means of endlesss debate like religion.....I recall doing a shootout with my earlier 4 way JBL with the MAC ......we had the Phase Linear 400 & 700, the Quad 405, a local Kit the Pro Series 3 and a EL 34 valve amp.
I myself am a class A nut but thats another story...LOL
The Pro Series 3 was the most open and the best of the bunch It was a bit tizzy in the top end as is the trait of most mosfet amps however they have a degree of warmth which will be useful with the 4344 which will be ruthlessly revealing of your recordings.
My bother uses the Pro Series 3 on his 4343 for mids and top end...very nice indeed..a proven kit amp time and time again.
Ian
Edit...Actually I would prefer Jarrod if you can down size your amps as I may well be the first to complain being not that far from ground ZERO.
If not I'd have to bridge two 700B's on the bottom end to make myself heard and seriously SLAM your ass with the 2245's....Muhahahaha
Forgive my humour
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