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rutabaga
01-08-2008, 05:50 AM
hi to all and happy new year :presents:

I just bough an L100A pair - the common version - not the late
(black foilcal with Century mentioned )

but there are 123A-3 in place of 123A-1...
( not a problem... and anyway, I have a 123A-1 pair)

My problem :

I found the 123A-3 connected like this : the BLACK wire on the RED post
and the GREEN wire on the Black post...
so I changed it...

Am I right ? :help:

I know the N100 x-over are the same on L100A and L100A late
(thanks the forum)
and I also understood the 123A-1 is a positive transducer
and the 123A-3 is a negative... ( I've tested it with an 1,5V battery)

Thanks to confirm what I think and have done...

both 123A-1 and 123A-3 works and play fine...
I really don't say for now if the 123A-3 is the best...

I think I must let the 123A-1 - anyone has an opinion ?

thanks

rutabaga

ratitifb
01-08-2008, 10:01 AM
http://audioheritage.csdco.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=5739&highlight=123A+polarity
http://audioheritage.csdco.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1387&highlight=123A+polarity

(prefer 123A-3 the late version)

rutabaga
01-08-2008, 11:14 AM
thanks ratitifb

I 've already seen those posts... but reading it again and better,
now I'm really confused...

bo said :
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Here's why I was hoping you could test that 123A-3 for us, and confirm it is NEGATIVE. The following excerpts from the technical sheets of the "L1http://audioheritage.csdco.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://audioheritage.csdco.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" and the "L1http://audioheritage.csdco.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/nuts.gifhttp://audioheritage.csdco.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/nuts.gifA Late Model" suggest the -3 is NEGATIVE like the 2213H, since JBL do not advise the need to switch polarity when swapping-in the 2213H.

Anyway, good luck... http://audioheritage.csdco.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/sulkoff.gif Attached Images http://audioheritage.csdco.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=1506&stc=1&d=1072283022


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So i could be wrong ??? do I have to reverse the polarity when replacing a
123A-1 by a 123A-3 ?
So, let the green wire on the black post and the black wire on the red post ???
:hmm:

to answer to bo :

the 123A-3 moves IN
and the 123A-1 moves OUT

when doing the same test : + battery 1,5 v on RED post
and - on BLACK post

well :blink:...

anybody can help ???

Zilch
01-08-2008, 11:56 AM
123A-3 is negative polarity.

If it's replacing 123 A-1, which is positive polarity, you reverse the leads:

http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=17888

Sounds like it was right when you got it.

boputnam
01-08-2008, 11:57 AM
to answer to bo :

the 123A-3 moves IN
and the 123A-1 moves OUT

when doing the same test : + battery 1,5 v on RED post
and - on BLACK post
You get a Gold Star - those answers are correct.

123A-3 is negative (JBL vintage convention)
123A-1 is positive (a strange variant of the period...)


I just bought an L100A pair - the common version - not the late (version)If that is true, whomever replaced the woofers made the proper wiring connection.

Using the 123A-3 in the L100A should wire GRN to Black post, and BLK to Red post - this will honor the network design. Treat the 123A-3 as you would the 2213H...

rutabaga
01-08-2008, 05:03 PM
:D now it's clear.. really clear...

thank you bo , thank you zilch

In french, we say : et la lumière fut !

(and the light was!) :)


rutabaga

duaneage
01-08-2008, 08:13 PM
Connect a 1.5 volt battery to each system and check the polarity to be sure. They both should move the same direction with red to +, whichever direction that is.

rutabaga
01-09-2008, 04:54 PM
:bouncy: thank you duaneage ... I did the test...

they move both out ... in the right direction

(:banana:

they rock the house as new