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richluvsound
11-25-2007, 06:21 AM
I just picked this up this morning ! Has anyone else heard it ? Also , could someone describe the process of remastering for me please !

Rich

Fred Sanford
11-25-2007, 06:42 AM
Maybe the simplest explanation I can give for re-master (vs. re-mix) is that going back to the stereo mix and doing the best you can with it (*) is re-mastering, going back to the multi-track and doing the best you can with it is re-mixing. In a "greatest hits" type package, you'd be trying to make the best presentation of each song, but also trying to make the entire package sound cohesive so there's hopefully not glaring differences in quality from the different time periods represented.

In LZ's case, there are multiple stereo mixes for them to go back to, though- Page has been down this road a number of times.

Hope that helps...

je

*(EQ, compression, fades, gain, track ordering, track levelling, etc.)

Titanium Dome
11-25-2007, 10:45 PM
THIS is your Mother 'Ship:

Titanium Dome
11-25-2007, 10:55 PM
Okay, now that SHE's out of my system, these might be more helpful:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/46985-mothership

http://audioenz.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=52163

http://www.modernguitars.com/archives/003898.html (scroll down to reason two)

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article2877291.ece

http://www.aversion.com/bands/reviews.cfm?f_id=3365

Hoerninger
11-26-2007, 06:55 AM
THIS is your Mother 'Ship:
Is she identical to Grace from 'plane - with her lovely eyes?
(I do own an old but fine LP from Jefferson Air'plane :thmbsup: .)
___________
Peter

richluvsound
11-26-2007, 10:12 AM
Thanks Ti,

the opinions on those links seem to agree with mine TOTAL CRAP !!!! the originals are far better . The 4345's pulled it apart . I think context is everything in this case. The context being as follows: 1975 , in the basement , Black Dog blasting the heck out the woofs, Gas torch , Mom's knives and a toilet roll tube, lots of coughing and red eyes , then back to school to stare out the window. I always did prefer Floyd , Supertramp and Bowie.

Ten quid Less in the wallet, Rich

Andyoz
11-26-2007, 12:01 PM
Thanks Rich, I was just about to order it.

Will stick with my old remasters (the ones with the crop circles on the cover)

Krunchy
11-26-2007, 01:11 PM
I think context is everything in this case. The context being as follows: 1975 , in the basement , Black Dog blasting the heck out the woofs, Gas torch , Mom's knives and a toilet roll tube, lots of coughing and red eyes , then back to school to stare out the window.

That seems like the proper context alright, :D good ambiance. Always liked pink Floyd myself, especially in that context.

Hoeringer:
(I do own an old but fine LP from Jefferson Air'plane :thmbsup: .)
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hjames
11-26-2007, 01:20 PM
Told'ja you'd appreciate the original Mothership bettah! Afronauts, Baby!

I do like Zep, but how many times can you remix and remaster the same tracks and expect to sell it yet again?
Bring on the official Zeppelin Boots!

richluvsound
11-26-2007, 01:34 PM
Ok Heather ,

I'll order it . Early , Earth Wind ,and Fire - Lonnnie Liston - type thing.

Rich

hjames
11-26-2007, 01:49 PM
Ok Heather ,
I'll order it . Early , Earth Wind ,and Fire - Lonnnie Liston - type thing.
Rich

Well, its got a lot more bottom and fun to it - not Liston's Cosmic Groove ... think James Brown's The J.B.'s & the Horny Horns ...

Its silly and playful and you gotta dance when you hear it! Great stuff for 1975!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothership_Connection

In 2003 the TV network (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_network) VH1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VH1) named Mothership Connection the 55th greatest album of all time. In 2003, the album was ranked number 274 on Rolling Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone) magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone%27s_500_Greatest_Albums_of_All_Time) . Joe S. Harrington of Blastitude (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blastitude&action=edit) listed it as #6 in his All-time Top 100 Albums, describing it as "the greatest r'n'b album of all time."[1] (http://www.blastitude.com/14/pg4.htm)

richluvsound
11-26-2007, 02:08 PM
RIP ZEPP !

Titanium Dome
11-26-2007, 06:35 PM
Is she identical to Grace from 'plane - with her lovely eyes?
(I do own an old but fine LP from Jefferson Air'plane :thmbsup: .)
___________
Peter

Yes, Grace has mothered many a band through its flights of musical fancy. Ms. Slick also mothered China and many a young man's libido.

A brief history: 1967 (Led Zep's not out of the gate yet.)

Titanium Dome
11-26-2007, 06:40 PM
A brief history: 1970 (Led Zep had done three albums, up to LZ III)

Titanium Dome
11-26-2007, 06:43 PM
A brief history: 1971 (Led Zep to LZ IV)

Titanium Dome
11-26-2007, 06:49 PM
A brief history: 1976 (Led Zep releases Presence, while Slick, Kantner and Balin have already done two other Starship albums.)

Titanium Dome
11-26-2007, 06:54 PM
All I'm sayin', Heather, is that Grace has been on more ships and trips than them Zep boys, and she lived to tell about it.

Anyway, I guess the point is that Mothership is a nonpurchase, and I'll be pulling out some Starship tonight.

Yikes, Rich, what you started! :eek:

JBL 4645
11-27-2007, 07:00 PM
First time I viewed this I thought it had something to do with “Close Encounters of the Third Kind’s” (mothership) at the end of the film.:D

http://media.bladezone.com/contents/fan/submissions/doug/Mother_Ship.jpg (http://media.bladezone.com/contents/fan/submissions/doug/Mother_Ship.jpg)